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OT:USS Texas - 6/26/2012 9:24:40 PM

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http://www.valleymorningstar.com/news/indefinitely-100472-leak-shuts.html
I hope that they fix the leak in the Texas. It's unexcusable that it was able to get to that degree. Hopefully the Texas will be ok.

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RE: OT:USS Texas - 6/26/2012 10:26:45 PM

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Age does awful things to all of us.

Tough to find the funds in these times, but hopefully the old gal will ultimately be properly repaired.

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RE: OT:USS Texas - 6/27/2012 12:33:52 AM

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I wanted to visit her in fall

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RE: OT:USS Texas - 6/27/2012 3:37:53 AM

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If you do visit her, beware of the mosquitoes, they are bigger than B-25s and I'm not kidding. I've seen mosquitoes in Minnesota that approached that size but that fen around her breeds monsters. I know, I know, the biggest ones are male and they only live long enough to mate, but still...

She is really, really cool though. Just bring your nets and your DEET, but no pets, they will not survive it.

I'm not sure what the current situation is with her, but her bilge is filled with concrete, she is resting on the bottom and cannot sink. Not sure why they would prohibit tourists whether she's leaking or not.

Unless they're making a movie about giant mosquitoes threatening the human species. Who should they cast? Will Smith?

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RE: OT:USS Texas - 6/27/2012 6:43:53 AM

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Very much reminds me of a quote in "The Thousand Miles War" my an 11th Airforce Pilot in 1943:

"The flight characteristics of Alaskan mosquitoes have been greatly exaggerated. It is not true
that they are as large as vultures. It is not true that antiaircraft outfits fresh from the
States have opened fire on them, thinking they were Japanese Zeroes. Their tail assemblage
is entirely different."

B.Garfield, The Thousand Miles War, Page 64, footnote 2

Seems some migrated from there to Minnesota, or the other way around?

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RE: OT:USS Texas - 6/27/2012 5:50:36 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: geofflambert

If you do visit her, beware of the mosquitoes, they are bigger than B-25s and I'm not kidding. I've seen mosquitoes in Minnesota that approached that size but that fen around her breeds monsters. I know, I know, the biggest ones are male and they only live long enough to mate, but still...

She is really, really cool though. Just bring your nets and your DEET, but no pets, they will not survive it.

I'm not sure what the current situation is with her, but her bilge is filled with concrete, she is resting on the bottom and cannot sink. Not sure why they would prohibit tourists whether she's leaking or not.

Unless they're making a movie about giant mosquitoes threatening the human species. Who should they cast? Will Smith?

resting on the bottom? They did that prior to the 1999 refit. It was her resting on the mudbed that led to the hull becoming seriously deteriorated because they couldn't get to it allowing tons of water into the lowest decks. The whole point of the refit was to have her afloat at her berthing so that if she did spring a leak, it could be repaired quickly....assuming availability of funds.

At some point they're probably going to have consider doing what was done to HIJMS Mikasa and put her in a permanent dry dock out of water or mud. HMS Victory is another example of this. Interestingly Iron hulls are much more resistant to corrosion effects so HMS Warrior is still afloat and doing well. Of course she's also much smaller. Water isn't the only issue. Corrosion is evident above the waterline too. Inside the ship it tends to be a bit damp and cool despite the Texas heat. B Turret is open to the public and you can see a small river of rust from the bottom of the breach opening up into the tube. Fire that barrel today and the gun would explode.

Another vivid example of the ship's age is the unpreserved Reciprocating engine. It looks like a rusty tangle of barnicles. (the other engine is in better shape and is on display to the public....and the steering engine is well preserved being covered in grease. The brig is slowly disintigrating.

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RE: OT:USS Texas - 6/27/2012 6:10:16 PM

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quote:

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resting on the bottom? They did that prior to the 1999 refit. It was her resting on the mudbed that led to the hull becoming seriously deteriorated because they couldn't get to it allowing tons of water into the lowest decks. The whole point of the refit was to have her afloat at her berthing so that if she did spring a leak, it could be repaired quickly....assuming availability of funds.

Haven't been there since the 80's, didn't know that.

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RE: OT:USS Texas - 6/27/2012 7:07:03 PM

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I was fortunate to visit her only scant months after her biggest restoration since being signed out from the navy. The volunteers and contractors did a BANG UP job. The ship was litterally spotless from the exterior. Not a smidgeon or rust or decay. Her paint was immaculate. They'd chipped off the awful concrete poured onto the decks to "preserve" it only to have water seep underneath and rot the wood. Much of the wooden planking was replaced. If only it could always be so. I should dig out the pics and scan em. She is a beauty.

Even so....despite that......once decending into the bowels of the ship, even after all the effort one still came away with a great sense of the ship's age and there were signs of it everywhere. Have mentioned the highlights. Unrestored areas are worse. Now it being 2012......10+ years in the elements, sounds like nature is advancing again. Hopefully they can patch the hull but at this point i really think she needs to be drydocked. Of course....who's gonna finance that??! They could commendere one existing but unused but that might take the ship out of her name-state.

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RE: OT:USS Texas - 6/28/2012 3:07:10 AM

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There must be some in California and the Northeast, since we sadly don't build ships like we used to. If the state of Texas won't pay for it, well... However, since she isn't seaworthy she can't be moved to those places. It surely would be cheaper to build something on site. Perhaps someone could get the Koch brothers to finance it.

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RE: OT:USS Texas - 6/28/2012 4:30:43 AM

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