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RE: Let's start! - 7/26/2012 6:37:30 PM   
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Wow...we were close to a disaster today....allied SS Swordfish put a torp in Kaga's belly north of Menado and later in the day another one in a CA's belly, part of Kaga's escort.... luckly both of them were dudes....



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RE: Let's start! - 7/26/2012 7:47:09 PM   
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RE: Let's start! - 7/26/2012 7:47:15 PM   
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Status: offline 		GJ, have you thought about bombing the AF at PM to hit supply points instead?

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RE: Let's start! - 7/26/2012 7:54:28 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Canoerebel

quote:

ORIGINAL: GreyJoy
Wow...we were close to a disaster today....allied SS Swordfish put a torp in Kaga's belly north of Menado and later in the day another one in a CA's belly, part of Kaga's escort.... luckly both of them were dudes....






GJ, "duds". If they were "dudes" they might have been California surfers who slammed into Kaga head first.

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RE: Let's start! - 7/26/2012 7:57:28 PM   
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RE: Let's start! - 7/26/2012 7:59:05 PM   
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RE: Let's start! - 7/26/2012 7:59:28 PM   
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RE: Let's start! - 7/26/2012 8:25:21 PM   
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I think the Thunderstorms had a lot to do with the results at PM. If the skies are clear tomorrow, you will have better results. If you have some float planes on BBs or CAs you might have them recon as well. It really helps.

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RE: Let's start! - 7/26/2012 8:35:33 PM   
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Status: offline 		I may have misinterpreted the combat report, or I may not be aware of the context in which the action occurred, but using KB strike aircraft to bomb ground troops or facilities is pretty wasteful. Those guys need to be nurtured and saved and used only for the missions that suit them or when an absolutely vital opportunity comes up. I don't think this is one of those situations. How many mission sorties are left after the strikes off Oz and then the PM missions? Mission sorites are gold. Don't use them on mundane stuff like this.

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RE: Let's start! - 7/26/2012 8:50:53 PM   
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Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 2271 troops, 24 guns, 16 vehicles, Assault Value = 71

Defending force 10629 troops, 84 guns, 2 vehicles, Assault Value = 294

Japanese ground losses:
175 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 10 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

What kind of arty do they have for God's sake!?


Probably something that sounds like giant whoopee cushions, and your troops are laughing too hard to advance!

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RE: Let's start! - 7/26/2012 9:52:23 PM   
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RE: Let's start! - 7/26/2012 10:23:17 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Canoerebel

I may have misinterpreted the combat report, or I may not be aware of the context in which the action occurred, but using KB strike aircraft to bomb ground troops or facilities is pretty wasteful. Those guys need to be nurtured and saved and used only for the missions that suit them or when an absolutely vital opportunity comes up. I don't think this is one of those situations. How many mission sorties are left after the strikes off Oz and then the PM missions? Mission sorites are gold. Don't use them on mundane stuff like this.


I still have more than half of missions and all the torps. Plenty for any "big" encounter at this stage of the war...

PM finally falls guys. I had to devote my major warships that belonged to KB to bomb the base and, after that, everything was over pretty easily.
PM was a must for me. I needed to get it and get it fast. I didn't expect that resistance so now my plans have slowed down again....but we soldier on!
Now we need to get Horn isl. and Mereuake. But first i need to get PM operational and base there a BF and some recon planes.

In southern borneo, at Tarakan, his CDguns have screwed my escorts....at least 5 DD/APDs sunk or ready to sink....but we're ashore in good order and tomorrow we should take the base
A strong Cruiser TF (with Boise leading it) is moving towards us....we will screen our landings with some SCTFs and with Kaga's backing up.
His CVs are still in southern Timor...so we should be safe by now....

Now Tarakan, then Kendari and then Ambon, while the Java invasion should wait for Singa's fall....

We are sending reinforcements to Buna, Lae, Munda and Shortland... i wanna get this theatre safe ASAP.




AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Jan 09, 42
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Night Naval bombardment of Port Moresby at 98,130

Japanese Ships
BB Hiei
CA Kako
CA Furutaka
CA Kinugasa
CA Aoba
CA Chikuma
CA Tone


Allied ground losses:
150 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 5 destroyed, 21 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Guns lost 12 (6 destroyed, 6 disabled)
Vehicles lost 5 (1 destroyed, 4 disabled)


Airbase hits 6
Airbase supply hits 4
Runway hits 45
Port hits 25
Port supply hits 9


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Day Time Surface Combat, near Dutch Harbor at 174,55, Range 4,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
AMC Kiyosumi Maru, Shell hits 2, on fire

Allied Ships
DMS Chandler
DMS Wasmuth
DMS Hovey
AO Neosho



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Pre-Invasion action off Tarakan (67,91) - Coastal Guns Fire Back!
Defensive Guns engage approaching landing force

61 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Japanese Ships
APD Hagi, Shell hits 4, on fire, heavy damage
APD Fuji, Shell hits 3, on fire
APD Aoi, Shell hits 2, on fire
xAKL Fukuyo Maru, Shell hits 2
DMS W-4
xAK Mexico Maru, Shell hits 2

Japanese ground losses:
51 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled


Allied ground losses:
27 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled



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Pre-Invasion action off Tarakan (67,91) - Coastal Guns Fire Back!
Defensive Guns engage approaching landing force

60 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Japanese Ships
DD Nokaze, Shell hits 1, on fire
DD Akikaze, Shell hits 1, on fire
xAKL Sasago Maru, Shell hits 1
AV Kamikawa Maru
PB Taiko Maru
xAKL Ryoyu Maru #21, Shell hits 6
AV Sanyo Maru
PB Kiso Maru
DD Namikaze
PB Nanpo Maru
PB Kamitsu Maru
PB Chosa Maru
PB Chitose Maru
xAKL Kaika Maru

Japanese ground losses:
48 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Allied ground losses:
93 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

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Ground combat at Port Moresby (98,130)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 10566 troops, 84 guns, 2 vehicles, Assault Value = 287

Defending force 3930 troops, 39 guns, 30 vehicles, Assault Value = 75

Japanese adjusted assault: 140

Allied adjusted defense: 15

Japanese assault odds: 9 to 1 (fort level 2)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Port Moresby !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), disruption(-), preparation(-), experience(-)
Attacker: fatigue(-)

Japanese ground losses:
201 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 19 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Allied ground losses:
1520 casualties reported
Squads: 38 destroyed, 18 disabled
Non Combat: 79 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 12 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 23 (23 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Vehicles lost 21 (21 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units retreated 6


Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
144th Infantry Regiment
Guards Mixed Brigade
Maizuru 1st SNLF

Defending units:
49th Australian Battalion
NG Vol Rifles Battalion
Papuan Inf Battalion
15th RAN Base Force
13th Field Regiment
Rabaul Base Force



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Ground combat at Tarakan (67,91)

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 1273 troops, 30 guns, 7 vehicles, Assault Value = 39

Defending force 7359 troops, 67 guns, 28 vehicles, Assault Value = 179



Assaulting units:
VII KNIL Battalion
Tarakan Base Force
Tarakan Defenses

Defending units:
5th Amphibious Brigade
22nd JAAF AF Bn
23rd JAAF AF Bn




.......and now i need to take a look at the whole R&D production....





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RE: Let's start! - 7/26/2012 10:24:35 PM   
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RE: Let's start! - 7/26/2012 10:29:24 PM   
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RE: Let's start! - 7/26/2012 10:39:02 PM   
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RE: Let's start! - 7/26/2012 10:47:00 PM   
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Surely you're planning on putting a HQ at Port M for torpedoes. Will you stack er' full of G4Ms and G3Ms?




Nope. PM is too exposed and so it's the whole NG.

On the contrary, i want him to invade there.
I'm planning to base 1 HQ at Rabaul and 1 at Munda. Both of them are Air Divisions, so 4 range. Around those 2 Air HQ i wanna build up 8/9 bases, each of them with 4 lvl AFs. Lunga, Tulagi, PM, Mylne Bay...all those places are expendable...but they will be strongly garrisoned and not built up (except for forts).
he will need to risk to get there, and i'll have the chance to attrit his navy... then i'll have several connecting bases...he won't be able to shut down them all at once...

The same goes for Tarawa-Makin area.

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RE: Let's start! - 7/26/2012 11:04:56 PM   
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RE: Let's start! - 7/27/2012 12:03:45 AM   
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Waves of corpes - 7/27/2012 12:32:26 AM   
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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Jan 10, 42

Ok guys...this was, by far, the bloodiest turn so far...

On the waters between Balikapan and Tarakan the allied sent their best cruisers. The Japs fought bravely...with Tanaka leading the fight...but those nasty cruisers did wonders against my, once again, harmless CAs...
Losses are almost equal (thanks to kaga who chased the fleeing enemy after the night battles) but our losses are clearly heavier thinking in the long run...

Everything started at night, when Tanaka's TF spotted the enemy coming for the amphib transports unloading at Tarakan and moved in to stop.
he found a very strong TF, composed of the best allied cruisers at this stage of the war and a couple of useless DDs...


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Night Time Surface Combat, near Tandjoengselor at 68,93, Range 11,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CL Isuzu, Shell hits 3
CL Tama, Shell hits 1
CL Kiso, Shell hits 26, heavy fires, heavy damage
DD Arashi
DD Hagikaze, Shell hits 1
DD Asashio
DD Oshio, Shell hits 1, on fire
DD Michishio
DD Arashio
DD Shinonome
DD Shirakumo

Allied Ships
CA Cornwall, Shell hits 3
CL Hobart, Shell hits 2, on fire
CL Enterprise
CL Mauritius
CL Boise, Shell hits 4
DD Peary, Shell hits 9, heavy fires, heavy damage
DD Witte de With




Maximum visibility in Partly Cloudy Conditions and 42% moonlight: 11,000 yards
Range closes to 17,000 yards...
CONTACT: Allies radar detects Japanese task force at 17,000 yards
Range closes to 11,000 yards...
CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 11,000 yards
CONTACT: Allied lookouts spot Japanese task force at 11,000 yards
CL Kiso engages CA Cornwall at 11,000 yards
CL Isuzu engages CL Boise at 11,000 yards
CL Isuzu engages CA Cornwall at 11,000 yards
CL Boise engages DD Shirakumo at 11,000 yards
CL Boise engages DD Shinonome at 11,000 yards
DD Arashio engages DD Witte de With at 11,000 yards
DD Michishio engages DD Witte de With at 11,000 yards
DD Witte de With engages DD Arashi at 11,000 yards
Range closes to 5,000 yards
CL Boise engages CL Kiso at 5,000 yards
CL Boise engages CL Kiso at 5,000 yards
CL Mauritius engages CL Isuzu at 5,000 yards
DD Witte de With engages DD Shirakumo at 5,000 yards
DD Witte de With engages DD Shinonome at 5,000 yards
DD Arashi engages DD Witte de With at 5,000 yards
DD Peary engages DD Michishio at 5,000 yards
Range closes to 2,000 yards
CA Cornwall engages CL Kiso at 2,000 yards
CL Boise engages CL Kiso at 2,000 yards
CL Kiso engages CL Mauritius at 2,000 yards
DD Shirakumo engages DD Witte de With at 2,000 yards
DD Shinonome engages DD Peary at 2,000 yards
DD Witte de With engages DD Hagikaze at 2,000 yards
DD Peary engages DD Arashio at 2,000 yards
DD Peary engages DD Oshio at 2,000 yards
Range increases to 4,000 yards
CA Cornwall engages CL Isuzu at 4,000 yards
CL Tama engages CA Cornwall at 4,000 yards
CA Cornwall engages CL Isuzu at 4,000 yards
DD Shirakumo engages DD Witte de With at 4,000 yards
CL Isuzu engages CL Hobart at 4,000 yards
DD Hagikaze engages DD Witte de With at 4,000 yards
DD Michishio engages DD Peary at 4,000 yards
DD Peary engages DD Oshio at 4,000 yards
DD Peary engages DD Asashio at 4,000 yards
Range increases to 5,000 yards
CL Kiso engages CA Cornwall at 5,000 yards
CL Tama engages CL Boise at 5,000 yards
CL Isuzu engages CL Mauritius at 5,000 yards
DD Shirakumo engages DD Witte de With at 5,000 yards
CL Kiso engages CL Hobart at 5,000 yards
DD Peary engages DD Arashio at 5,000 yards
DD Peary engages DD Hagikaze at 5,000 yards
DD Oshio engages DD Peary at 5,000 yards
DD Asashio engages DD Witte de With at 5,000 yards
DD Hagikaze engages DD Peary at 5,000 yards
Range increases to 7,000 yards
CL Kiso engages CA Cornwall at 7,000 yards
CL Tama engages CA Cornwall at 7,000 yards
CL Kiso engages CL Mauritius at 7,000 yards
CL Enterprise engages DD Shirakumo at 7,000 yards
CL Tama engages CL Hobart at 7,000 yards
DD Hagikaze engages DD Witte de With at 7,000 yards
DD Peary engages DD Oshio at 7,000 yards
DD Peary engages DD Hagikaze at 7,000 yards
DD Witte de With engages DD Arashi at 7,000 yards
Range increases to 9,000 yards
CL Isuzu engages CA Cornwall at 9,000 yards
CA Cornwall engages CL Tama at 9,000 yards
CL Isuzu engages CA Cornwall at 9,000 yards
CL Tama engages CL Enterprise at 9,000 yards
DD Shinonome engages DD Peary at 9,000 yards
DD Arashio engages DD Peary at 9,000 yards
DD Shirakumo engages DD Peary at 9,000 yards
Range increases to 10,000 yards
CL Tama engages CA Cornwall at 10,000 yards
CL Tama engages CA Cornwall at 10,000 yards
CL Tama engages CL Mauritius at 10,000 yards
CL Tama engages CL Enterprise at 10,000 yards
CL Hobart engages CL Kiso at 10,000 yards
DD Shinonome engages DD Witte de With at 10,000 yards
DD Peary engages DD Michishio at 10,000 yards
DD Witte de With engages DD Oshio at 10,000 yards
DD Arashi engages DD Peary at 10,000 yards
CL Kiso engages CA Cornwall at 10,000 yards
CL Isuzu engages CL Boise at 10,000 yards
CA Cornwall engages CL Isuzu at 10,000 yards
DD Shirakumo engages DD Witte de With at 10,000 yards
DD Witte de With engages DD Shinonome at 10,000 yards
DD Arashi engages DD Witte de With at 10,000 yards
DD Michishio engages DD Peary at 10,000 yards
DD Asashio engages DD Peary at 10,000 yards
Range closes to 9,000 yards
CL Kiso engages CA Cornwall at 9,000 yards
CL Tama engages CL Mauritius at 9,000 yards
CL Isuzu engages CA Cornwall at 9,000 yards
CL Kiso engages CL Enterprise at 9,000 yards
CL Isuzu engages CL Hobart at 9,000 yards
DD Arashio engages DD Witte de With at 9,000 yards
DD Arashio engages DD Peary at 9,000 yards
DD Oshio engages DD Peary at 9,000 yards
DD Hagikaze engages DD Peary at 9,000 yards
Range increases to 12,000 yards
CA Cornwall engages CL Kiso at 12,000 yards
CL Boise engages CL Kiso at 12,000 yards
CL Tama engages CL Mauritius at 12,000 yards
CL Enterprise engages DD Shirakumo at 12,000 yards
DD Peary engages DD Shinonome at 12,000 yards
DD Shirakumo engages DD Witte de With at 12,000 yards
DD Peary engages DD Michishio at 12,000 yards
DD Oshio engages DD Peary at 12,000 yards
DD Asashio engages DD Witte de With at 12,000 yards
DD Peary engages DD Hagikaze at 12,000 yards
DD Arashi engages DD Peary at 12,000 yards
CA Cornwall engages CL Kiso at 12,000 yards
CL Boise engages CL Tama at 12,000 yards
CL Mauritius engages CL Isuzu at 12,000 yards
CL Kiso engages CL Enterprise at 12,000 yards
DD Shinonome engages DD Peary at 12,000 yards
CL Enterprise engages DD Arashio at 12,000 yards
DD Witte de With engages DD Oshio at 12,000 yards
DD Peary engages DD Asashio at 12,000 yards
DD Hagikaze engages DD Peary at 12,000 yards
DD Peary engages DD Arashi at 12,000 yards
CL Kiso engages CA Cornwall at 12,000 yards
CL Boise engages CL Tama at 12,000 yards
CL Isuzu engages CA Cornwall at 12,000 yards
CL Kiso engages CL Hobart at 12,000 yards
DD Witte de With engages DD Shinonome at 12,000 yards
DD Michishio engages DD Witte de With at 12,000 yards
DD Asashio engages DD Peary at 12,000 yards
Range increases to 13,000 yards
CL Kiso engages CA Cornwall at 13,000 yards
CL Tama engages CA Cornwall at 13,000 yards
CA Cornwall engages CL Isuzu at 13,000 yards
CL Isuzu engages CL Enterprise at 13,000 yards
CL Hobart engages CL Tama at 13,000 yards
DD Asashio engages DD Witte de With at 13,000 yards
DD Peary engages DD Michishio at 13,000 yards
DD Peary engages DD Asashio at 13,000 yards
DD Witte de With engages DD Hagikaze at 13,000 yards
Range closes to 12,000 yards
CL Tama engages CA Cornwall at 12,000 yards
CA Cornwall engages CL Isuzu at 12,000 yards
DD Witte de With engages DD Shirakumo at 12,000 yards
CL Hobart engages CL Kiso at 12,000 yards
DD Witte de With engages DD Shinonome at 12,000 yards
DD Michishio engages DD Peary at 12,000 yards
DD Oshio engages DD Peary at 12,000 yards
DD Asashio engages DD Peary at 12,000 yards
Range closes to 10,000 yards
CL Kiso engages CA Cornwall at 10,000 yards
CL Boise engages CL Kiso at 10,000 yards
CA Cornwall engages CL Isuzu at 10,000 yards
CL Enterprise engages DD Shirakumo at 10,000 yards
DD Shinonome engages DD Witte de With at 10,000 yards
DD Oshio engages DD Witte de With at 10,000 yards
DD Michishio engages DD Peary at 10,000 yards
DD Asashio engages DD Peary at 10,000 yards
Task forces break off...


The Kiso has been targetted for the whole battle (especially by Boise 6inch guns) and when the battle was over it was a flaming wreck...sunk immediately after... while Tanaka moved back behind a curtain of smoke back to northern Borneo...







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RE: Waves of corpes - 7/27/2012 12:36:27 AM   
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Status: offline 		Then, while Mutsu and Yamashiro were bombarding Cagayan in order to help the upcoming battle of the morning...
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Night Naval bombardment of Cagayan at 79,89

Japanese Ships
BB Yamashiro
BB Mutsu


Allied ground losses:
372 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 27 destroyed, 11 disabled
Engineers: 2 destroyed, 1 disabled


Manpower hits 3
Fires 4311
Airbase hits 3
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 33
Port hits 4
Port fuel hits 1



....and while a fast transport TF was landing a base force at Jolo...



The dreaded enemy kept on pushing on towards our transports...and, when the sun started to shine on the tropical waters, found a DD Flottilla....who fought bravely once again...but, outgunned by the enemy, was pushed back with 2 more DDs sunk...

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Day Time Surface Combat, near Tandjoengselor at 68,95, Range 13,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
DD Yamagumo, Shell hits 2, and is sunk
DD Umikaze
DD Suzukaze, Shell hits 1
DD Ikazuchi
DD Inazuma, Shell hits 1, and is sunk
DD Tachikaze

Allied Ships
CA Cornwall
CL Hobart, Shell hits 1
CL Enterprise
CL Mauritius, Shell hits 2
CL Boise
DD Witte de With, Shell hits 2, heavy fires


The worst conditions ever for the fast DDs...who closed range and shot all their torps...but, in the daylight, they had no chance...






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RE: Waves of corpes - 7/27/2012 12:41:38 AM   
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And then, our last shield.... the strong SCTF (best leader after Tanaka) create a barricate in front of our transports who went fleeing....

CA Haguro was immediately hit by the Boise and started to burn furiously...the americans did show great firing capabilities, targetting the Aguro from 20,000 yards!!!!
We fought back...but the allies seems to always have the upper hand....and the Aguro was easily mauled by the Cornwall big guns.... only the intervention of the DDs saved the day...Long Lances torps did finally something when the DDs closed the distances...


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Day Time Surface Combat, near Samarinda at 68,96, Range 23,000 Yards

Allied aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft losses
Walrus II: 2 destroyed
SOC-1 Seagull: 2 destroyed

Japanese Ships
CA Chokai, Shell hits 2
CA Myoko, Shell hits 1
CA Haguro, Shell hits 31, heavy fires
CL Sendai, Shell hits 3
CL Naka, Shell hits 6, heavy fires
DD Kuroshio, Shell hits 2, on fire
DD Oyashio
DD Hayashio, Shell hits 1, on fire
DD Amatsukaze
DD Nowaki
DD Wakaba, Shell hits 1
DD Isonami, Shell hits 1, heavy fires
DD Uranami

Allied Ships
CA Cornwall, Shell hits 67, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
CL Hobart, Shell hits 1
CL Enterprise, Shell hits 4
CL Mauritius, Shell hits 6
CL Boise, Shell hits 48, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk
DD Witte de With, Shell hits 7, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk



Maximum visibility in Partly Cloudy Conditions: 28,000 yards
CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 23,000 yards
CONTACT: Allied lookouts spot Japanese task force at 23,000 yards
CA Haguro engages CA Cornwall at 23,000 yards
CA Haguro engages CL Boise at 23,000 yards
CA Haguro engages CL Mauritius at 23,000 yards
Range closes to 17,000 yards
CA Haguro engages CA Cornwall at 17,000 yards
CA Haguro engages CL Boise at 17,000 yards
CA Haguro engages CL Mauritius at 17,000 yards
CL Naka engages CA Cornwall at 17,000 yards
CA Cornwall engages CL Sendai at 17,000 yards
DD Witte de With engages DD Uranami at 17,000 yards
DD Witte de With engages DD Isonami at 17,000 yards
DD Witte de With engages DD Nowaki at 17,000 yards
DD Witte de With engages DD Hayashio at 17,000 yards
DD Witte de With engages DD Oyashio at 17,000 yards
Range closes to 14,000 yards
CA Haguro engages CA Cornwall at 14,000 yards
CA Haguro engages CL Boise at 14,000 yards
CA Chokai engages CL Mauritius at 14,000 yards
CL Naka engages CA Cornwall at 14,000 yards
CL Sendai engages CL Hobart at 14,000 yards
DD Uranami engages DD Witte de With at 14,000 yards
CA Cornwall engages DD Wakaba at 14,000 yards
DD Nowaki engages DD Witte de With at 14,000 yards
DD Oyashio engages DD Witte de With at 14,000 yards
Range closes to 10,000 yards
CA Haguro engages CA Cornwall at 10,000 yards
CA Haguro engages CL Boise at 10,000 yards
CL Mauritius engages CA Haguro at 10,000 yards
CA Cornwall engages CL Naka at 10,000 yards
CL Sendai engages CL Hobart at 10,000 yards
DD Oyashio engages DD Witte de With at 10,000 yards
CA Cornwall engages DD Nowaki at 10,000 yards
DD Amatsukaze engages DD Witte de With at 10,000 yards
Range closes to 8,000 yards
CA Cornwall engages CA Haguro at 8,000 yards
CA Haguro engages CL Boise at 8,000 yards
CA Haguro engages CL Mauritius at 8,000 yards
CL Naka engages CL Enterprise at 8,000 yards
CL Sendai engages CL Hobart at 8,000 yards
DD Wakaba engages DD Witte de With at 8,000 yards
CA Cornwall engages DD Nowaki at 8,000 yards
DD Hayashio engages CA Cornwall at 8,000 yards
DD Kuroshio engages DD Witte de With at 8,000 yards
Range increases to 9,000 yards
CA Haguro engages CA Cornwall at 9,000 yards
CA Myoko engages CL Boise at 9,000 yards
CA Cornwall engages CA Chokai at 9,000 yards
CL Naka engages CA Cornwall at 9,000 yards
CA Cornwall engages CL Sendai at 9,000 yards
CA Cornwall engages DD Isonami at 9,000 yards
DD Witte de With engages DD Wakaba at 9,000 yards
DD Nowaki engages DD Witte de With at 9,000 yards
DD Witte de With engages DD Amatsukaze at 9,000 yards
DD Witte de With sunk by DD Hayashio at 9,000 yards
DD Oyashio engages CA Cornwall at 9,000 yards
CA Myoko engages CA Cornwall at 9,000 yards
CA Chokai engages CL Mauritius at 9,000 yards
CL Naka engages CL Enterprise at 9,000 yards
CA Haguro engages CL Hobart at 9,000 yards
DD Isonami engages CA Cornwall at 9,000 yards
DD Amatsukaze engages CA Cornwall at 9,000 yards
DD Hayashio engages CA Cornwall at 9,000 yards
CA Cornwall engages DD Oyashio at 9,000 yards
Range increases to 11,000 yards
CL Boise engages CA Haguro at 11,000 yards
CA Haguro engages CL Mauritius at 11,000 yards
CL Enterprise engages CL Naka at 11,000 yards
CL Hobart engages CA Haguro at 11,000 yards
DD Uranami engages CA Cornwall at 11,000 yards
CA Cornwall engages DD Nowaki at 11,000 yards
CA Cornwall engages DD Amatsukaze at 11,000 yards
CA Cornwall engages DD Hayashio at 11,000 yards
CA Cornwall engages DD Oyashio at 11,000 yards
DD Kuroshio engages CA Cornwall at 11,000 yards
Manwaring, P.C.W. orders Allied TF to disengage
CA Haguro engages CL Boise at 11,000 yards
CL Mauritius engages CA Haguro at 11,000 yards
CL Naka engages CA Cornwall at 11,000 yards
DD Isonami engages CA Cornwall at 11,000 yards
CL Enterprise engages DD Nowaki at 11,000 yards
CA Cornwall engages DD Kuroshio at 11,000 yards
CA Haguro engages CL Boise at 11,000 yards
CA Chokai engages CA Cornwall at 11,000 yards
CL Naka engages CL Enterprise at 11,000 yards
CL Hobart engages CA Haguro at 11,000 yards
CA Cornwall engages DD Isonami at 11,000 yards
DD Amatsukaze engages CA Cornwall at 11,000 yards
Range closes to 7,000 yards
CA Haguro engages CA Cornwall at 7,000 yards
CA Myoko engages CA Cornwall at 7,000 yards
CA Chokai engages CA Cornwall at 7,000 yards
CL Naka engages CL Boise at 7,000 yards
CL Hobart engages CL Naka at 7,000 yards
CA Cornwall engages DD Nowaki at 7,000 yards
DD Kuroshio engages CA Cornwall at 7,000 yards
CA Haguro engages CL Boise at 7,000 yards
CA Chokai engages CA Cornwall at 7,000 yards
CL Naka engages CA Cornwall at 7,000 yards
CL Sendai engages CA Cornwall at 7,000 yards
DD Uranami engages CA Cornwall at 7,000 yards
DD Wakaba engages CA Cornwall at 7,000 yards
CA Cornwall engages DD Nowaki at 7,000 yards
CA Cornwall engages DD Amatsukaze at 7,000 yards
DD Kuroshio engages CA Cornwall at 7,000 yards
Range closes to 5,000 yards
CA Haguro engages CA Cornwall at 5,000 yards
CL Boise engages CA Haguro at 5,000 yards
CL Mauritius engages CA Haguro at 5,000 yards
CL Naka engages CA Cornwall at 5,000 yards
CA Cornwall engages CL Sendai at 5,000 yards
DD Uranami engages CA Cornwall at 5,000 yards
CA Cornwall engages DD Isonami at 5,000 yards
CA Cornwall engages DD Nowaki at 5,000 yards
Range closes to 4,000 yards
CA Cornwall sunk by CA Myoko at 4,000 yards
CL Enterprise engages DD Isonami at 4,000 yards
Range closes to 3,000 yards
CL Boise engages CA Haguro at 3,000 yards
CL Boise engages CA Myoko at 3,000 yards
CL Boise engages CA Chokai at 3,000 yards
CL Naka engages CL Boise at 3,000 yards
CL Boise engages DD Uranami at 3,000 yards
CL Mauritius engages DD Wakaba at 3,000 yards
CL Boise engages DD Nowaki at 3,000 yards
CL Hobart engages DD Amatsukaze at 3,000 yards
DD Kuroshio engages CL Boise at 3,000 yards
Range increases to 5,000 yards
CL Boise engages CA Haguro at 5,000 yards
CA Myoko engages CL Boise at 5,000 yards
CA Haguro engages CL Enterprise at 5,000 yards
CA Haguro engages CL Hobart at 5,000 yards
DD Wakaba engages CL Boise at 5,000 yards
CL Boise engages DD Hayashio at 5,000 yards
CL Boise engages DD Kuroshio at 5,000 yards
Range increases to 6,000 yards
CA Haguro engages CL Mauritius at 6,000 yards
CA Chokai engages CL Boise at 6,000 yards
CL Hobart engages CA Haguro at 6,000 yards
CL Boise engages DD Nowaki at 6,000 yards
CL Boise engages DD Oyashio at 6,000 yards
CL Boise engages DD Kuroshio at 6,000 yards
Range increases to 9,000 yards
CL Boise engages CA Haguro at 9,000 yards
CL Boise engages CA Myoko at 9,000 yards
DD Uranami engages CL Boise at 9,000 yards
CL Boise engages DD Nowaki at 9,000 yards
CL Boise engages DD Amatsukaze at 9,000 yards
CL Boise engages DD Hayashio at 9,000 yards
CL Boise engages DD Kuroshio at 9,000 yards
Range increases to 11,000 yards
CL Mauritius engages CA Myoko at 11,000 yards
CA Chokai engages CL Boise at 11,000 yards
CL Boise engages DD Hayashio at 11,000 yards
CL Boise engages DD Kuroshio at 11,000 yards
Range increases to 12,000 yards
CA Myoko engages CL Boise at 12,000 yards
CL Enterprise engages CA Haguro at 12,000 yards
CL Naka engages CL Hobart at 12,000 yards
CL Boise engages DD Uranami at 12,000 yards
CL Boise engages DD Wakaba at 12,000 yards
CL Boise engages DD Kuroshio at 12,000 yards
Range closes to 9,000 yards
CL Mauritius engages CA Haguro at 9,000 yards
CA Haguro engages CL Enterprise at 9,000 yards
CL Hobart engages CA Haguro at 9,000 yards
CL Boise engages DD Uranami at 9,000 yards
CL Boise engages DD Isonami at 9,000 yards
CL Boise sunk by DD Wakaba at 9,000 yards
Range increases to 10,000 yards
CA Myoko engages CL Enterprise at 10,000 yards
CL Hobart engages CA Chokai at 10,000 yards
CL Sendai engages CL Mauritius at 10,000 yards
CL Mauritius engages DD Isonami at 10,000 yards
CL Mauritius engages DD Wakaba at 10,000 yards
CL Mauritius engages DD Kuroshio at 10,000 yards
Range increases to 16,000 yards
CA Haguro engages CL Mauritius at 16,000 yards
CL Mauritius engages CA Myoko at 16,000 yards
CA Chokai engages CL Mauritius at 16,000 yards
CL Sendai engages CL Mauritius at 16,000 yards
CL Mauritius engages DD Uranami at 16,000 yards
CL Mauritius engages DD Wakaba at 16,000 yards
Task forces break off...




The allies had no ammos left and, with their TF badly mauled, finally abbandoned their prey and tried to move back at Flank speed...







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RE: Waves of corpes - 7/27/2012 12:45:04 AM   
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My heart stopped beating when i realized that, during the morning the skies were full of storms and not a single a/c could take off from Kaga's group decks....

Kaga's TF was in perfect position during the afternoon phase...the skies were a bit clearer and 36 kates could take off....



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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Donggala at 67,97

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid detected at 75 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 32 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 46
B5N1 Kate x 11
B5N2 Kate x 25



Japanese aircraft losses
B5N2 Kate: 9 damaged
B5N2 Kate: 2 destroyed by flak

Allied Ships
CL Mauritius, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk
DD Peary, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
CL Enterprise, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk
CL Hobart, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage



Aircraft Attacking:
23 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 45cm Type 91 Torp
11 x B5N1 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 45cm Type 91 Torp

Magazine explodes on CL Enterprise




...of the enemy TF only the Hobart survived...but it's not in a good shape mind you






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RE: Waves of corpes - 7/27/2012 12:47:26 AM   
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Status: offline 		Then we attacked Cagayan, clearing the whole Mindanao island...

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Ground combat at Cagayan (79,89)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 9619 troops, 72 guns, 88 vehicles, Assault Value = 325

Defending force 4949 troops, 29 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 156

Japanese adjusted assault: 275

Allied adjusted defense: 31

Japanese assault odds: 8 to 1 (fort level 1)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Cagayan !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), morale(-), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
299 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 19 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 6 disabled


Allied ground losses:
6334 casualties reported
Squads: 228 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 302 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 2 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 35 (35 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units destroyed 6


Assaulting units:
8th Tank Regiment
33rd Infantry Regiment
146th Infantry Regiment
2nd JNAF Coy

Defending units:
3rd PA Constabulary Regiment
103rd PA Infantry Regiment
102nd PA Infantry Regiment
3rd/101st PA Battalion
III Philippine Corps
Del Monte AAF Base Force





Tarakan held our first assault...strange odds indeed...


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Ground combat at Tarakan (67,91)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 5469 troops, 51 guns, 16 vehicles, Assault Value = 179

Defending force 1977 troops, 45 guns, 7 vehicles, Assault Value = 39

Japanese adjusted assault: 35

Allied adjusted defense: 22

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 1)

Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 0

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), preparation(-), experience(-)
Attacker:


Allied ground losses:
89 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 6 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled


Assaulting units:
5th Amphibious Brigade
22nd JAAF AF Bn
23rd JAAF AF Bn

Defending units:
VII KNIL Battalion
Tarakan Base Force
Tarakan Defenses








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RE: Waves of corpes - 7/27/2012 12:48:34 AM   
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RE: Waves of corpes - 7/27/2012 12:59:32 AM   
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RE: Waves of corpes - 7/27/2012 4:35:16 AM   
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Status: offline 		Ser Greyjoy, my companion in arms, why such a long face?  Why do you let tears cloud your eyes and doubts creep insidiously into your morale?  is this the Bushido spirit?

You have very effectively destroyed the cream of the Allied surface forces in the DEI.  Yes, it is sad to see large ships like Haguro lost.  No, you will never able to replace it.  However, you have destroyed the Allied surface combatants in the DEI and taken a significant portion of the Allied naval strength in the Indian Ocean with them.  Some Allied CVs are about and do represent a clear and present danger, but what we witnessed was the death ride of the Allied cruiser forces, not the defeat of the Imperial fleet a la Leyte Gulf.  The way is basically clear for the continued rapid capture of the SRA.  A real threat to your amphibious operations has been eliminated.  Most of your damaged ships will survive to fight another day...his will not.

Hold your head high, Ser Greyjoy.  I am sure there is little cheering in the Allied camp tonight.

Press on proud warrior....perhaps a little more judiciously.  But, fear not, you have clear command of the seas and a number of important objectives to go with it.  Press the enemy, engage him more closely.  And put an end to Singers before the end of the month.
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RE: Waves of corpes - 7/27/2012 7:09:13 AM   
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ORIGINAL: princep01

Ser Greyjoy, my companion in arms, why such a long face?  Why do you let tears cloud your eyes and doubts creep insidiously into your morale?  is this the Bushido spirit?

You have very effectively destroyed the cream of the Allied surface forces in the DEI.  Yes, it is sad to see large ships like Haguro lost.  No, you will never able to replace it.  However, you have destroyed the Allied surface combatants in the DEI and taken a significant portion of the Allied naval strength in the Indian Ocean with them.  Some Allied CVs are about and do represent a clear and present danger, but what we witnessed was the death ride of the Allied cruiser forces, not the defeat of the Imperial fleet a la Leyte Gulf.  The way is basically clear for the continued rapid capture of the SRA.  A real threat to your amphibious operations has been eliminated.  Most of your damaged ships will survive to fight another day...his will not.

Hold your head high, Ser Greyjoy.  I am sure there is little cheering in the Allied camp tonight.

Press on proud warrior....perhaps a little more judiciously.  But, fear not, you have clear command of the seas and a number of important objectives to go with it.  Press the enemy, engage him more closely.  And put an end to Singers before the end of the month.



My Master,

your words, as usual, brought it up back again! You are right. We took some losses, but we're still advancing and you cannot make a scrumble egg without breaking some eggs, right?
The fact is that, despite the very wise suggestion of not to do it, i keep on comparing this match with my other one, where i had experienced the almost invicibility of japanese CAs during the first 2 years of the war.
But luck is a factor in naval engagements. Had my CAs engaged Boise and friends during night time things could have gone differently...or maybe not.... well, i guess i simply have to stop thinking about the loss of Haguro and Ashigara and concentrate on the war that still need to be fought

Singapore is daily bombed and the AF is being now closed and trashed for 20 days in a row. It's isolated and, de facto, ready to be taken. Our troops are only 46 miles far from Jahore Baru.... so we're almost there!
For the final assault i'll devote 200 bombers to pound the place. If the first shock attack goes well, i think we can get it by the end of jan 42.

Then i'll have still 2 full months of the amphibious bonus...gotta use it!

I need to have a bridgehead in Java by the end of Jan. Now, after the fall of Tarakan, we'll advance towards Balikapan with the 5th amphib Bde, supported by a couple of SNLF units, while 2 reinforced regiments will attack Ambon and Kendari from Mindanao. The KB, after securing the SWPAC sector, will refuel and will join Kaga's group by mid feb 42 hopefully.

I also need to understand what to do with Burma. Our 15th Army is at the gates of Pegu but he has reinforced the river crossings north of Moulmein and i will take a while before i can really hope to break through... probably an amphib operation is needed directly against Rangoon, in order to bypass the whole problem. The AF at moulmein could be used to provide efficient LRCAP over the advancing fleet, so that the KB could operate in IO in a free-hunter role...


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RE: Waves of corpes - 7/27/2012 10:01:32 AM   
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RE: Waves of corpes - 7/27/2012 10:42:15 AM   
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The Boise is sunk. You have now won


Do not say that name so loud. This ship is nightmare of all Japanese players.

I heard that if you say his name five times to mirror he will come back with 16inch guns, 100mm armor and 5k AA defense

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RE: Waves of corpes - 7/27/2012 1:15:42 PM   
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ORIGINAL: koniu


quote:

ORIGINAL: JohnDillworth

The Boise is sunk. You have now won


Do not say that name so loud. This ship is nightmare of all Japanese players.

I heard that if you say his name five times to mirror he will come back with 16inch guns, 100mm armor and 5k AA defense


The only Brooklyn/St. Louis class the US lost during the war, USS Helena, did return as a Baltimore-class CA, her keel being laid just two months after her loss.

Let's see, USS Boise sunk Jan-42... (scribbles furiously)... she can indeed return as an Iowa-class in late 1944 (see construction of USS Wisconsin).

Wait, the USN in 1944 still assigned states as BB names.

Ah! Here we go! She can come back as an Essex class! As was amply demonstrated, we named those proud ships after any random name.

Instead of 16" rifles, I offer you 73 Hellcats, 15 Dauntlesses, and 15 Avengers.

I recommend you suggest that your opponent rename one of his incoming CVs in honor of his martyred CL.

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