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RE: Let's start! - 8/8/2012 11:08:45 AM

ny59giants

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Lost another sub at Merak because i'm IDIOT!!!! ...

As a mental health professional, I can give you an official diagnosis Nic.

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RE: Let's start! - 8/8/2012 4:27:10 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: ny59giants

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Lost another sub at Merak because i'm IDIOT!!!! ...

As a mental health professional, I can give you an official diagnosis Nic.

We need to rule out all the metabolic/endocrine reasons first before gettting mental health involved

Great AAR GreyJoy .. I enjoy lurking ..

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RE: Let's start! - 8/8/2012 6:47:53 PM

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LOL, thanks Micheal! that's very kind of you

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Feb 11, 42

the first good sub attack after 60 days of almost nothing....

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Sub attack near Christmas Island at 183,144

Japanese Ships
     SS I-175

Allied Ships
     TK Mobilgas, Torpedo hits 1, heavy damage
     xAK Shooting Star
     DD King

Nothing much else to report.
We have now 2900 AVs in Singapore. Enough to try the last assault. 130 bombers will support the attack of tomorrow.

In java we're moving fast to isolate Batavia from the south. Daily attacks of ducth bombers repulsed without problems. Several new aces among my lines...;-)

KB is near Camra Bay. Will regroup and refuel and wait for Singa to fall before moving out of the theatre.

In China another unsuccesfull attack against his roadblock south of Tsuyun....

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Ground combat at 73,52 (near Tuyun)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 10890 troops, 240 guns, 144 vehicles, Assault Value = 297

Defending force 8288 troops, 41 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 41

Japanese adjusted assault: 125

Allied adjusted defense: 106

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
     105 casualties reported
        Squads: 0 destroyed, 11 disabled
        Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
        Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

Allied ground losses:
     322 casualties reported
        Squads: 25 destroyed, 9 disabled
        Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 11 disabled
        Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
     Guns lost 7 (1 destroyed, 6 disabled)

Assaulting units:
   2nd Tank Regiment
   104th/A Division
   104th/B Division
   23rd Army
   10th Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment
   2nd Mortar Battalion
   5th RF Gun Battalion
   21st Mortar Battalion
   2nd RF Gun Battalion
   2nd Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
   20th Ind. Mtn Gun Battalion

Defending units:
   31st Chinese Corps
   4th War Area
   9th Group Army
   7th Chinese Base Force

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RE: Let's start! - 8/8/2012 7:48:52 PM

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309.4 Adjustment Disorder with Mixed Disturbance of Emotion and Conduct, Acute

A. The stressor did happen less than 3 months ago when you took AE back up and chose to play Japan without any experience playing that side.

B.
(1) "marked distress is in excess of what would be expected from exposure to the stressor." Please read the 20 prior pages of this AAR and I still have some private emails to prove this point.

(2) "significant impairment in social or occupational (academic) functioning" We may need input from your supervisor and/or girl friend.

Disturbance of Emotions - we have all seen the anxiety and depressive symptoms present when you have posted your combat reports.

Conduct - see prior postings about his behavior at his friends wedding.

Treatment recommendations to follow......

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RE: Let's start! - 8/9/2012 2:13:07 AM

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LOL Micheal!

....as they say, the first thing to do is to admit to have a problem and let the others help you

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Feb 12, 42

The 12th of Feb is an important date for the Empire: Singapore fell with 55k enemy men!!!
The worst part is that EVERY SINGLE facility in Singa is damaged...i'll need sooooo many supplies to repair them

However now the 2nd phase can begin.
I have 2 divisions badly badly trashed. The Imperial is at 30%, while the 5th is at 34%

...they cannot be used in these conditions...not in the first waves anyway!

He's more or less retiring from Burma as far as i can tell.... so my idea is now the following: i have 48 days before the bonus is over, so i must do it quickly.
With things in China going pretty well (more about it later), i think i should play conservatively and estabilish a good defensive perimeter asap.
So the idea is to split once again the KB. Kaga and the light carriers (Soho just arrived) will stay togheder, while the KB, packed up with more land based zeros, will operate apart.

The idea is to land at Pegu and Akyab a decent Army, conquer Burma asap and then close on China from the west, diggin in Burma immediately with engineers and AA units.
For this operation i think i'll use 3 divisions, plus some minor infantry units. The 33rd, the 2nd and the 21st. These big units will join the 15th army (composed of elements of the 55th ID and RTA divisions) and, along with several artillery units, willprobably finish Burma by april 42.
In the meanwhile, 2 infantry regiments will finish up northern Sumatra and the Adamans, followed by engineers and base forces.
Kaga's CVTF will support the whole operation, along with 2 strong SCTFs.

The rest of the 25th army that conquered Singapore will wait a couple of weeks and then will sail south. The goal is to conquer northern Oz untill Tennant's creek, while minor units will invade Makassar, Koepang, Derby, Exmouth and every single other base in southern DEI. Balikapan and Samarinda will be taken when everything in the south is over.
Passing by we'll land some more units in Java, finishing everything south of Kalidati and laying a siege at Batavia.

KB may also raid Perth if everything remains quiet on my flanks (consider that the NE flank is already covered by the early conquests of PM, Horn Island and Mereuake).

During the next two months we'll play very defensively in CENTPAC and SOPAC. only small convoys will bring supplies, but nothing big will be moving untill the Kb returns in the area. Netties and Zeros will be based en masse at Truk, Rabaul, Marshalls and Tokyo (the latter just in case he tries something).
We'll only reinforce heavily the Solomons, bringing one more Air HQ at Munda, along with several AA units, Eng units and base forces. Wanna have, by mid 42, this whole area absolutely secure!

In china we're finally making some progresses in the south. The enemy roadblock has been pushed back finally, and now the road to Tsuyun in completely open. Nanning has been conquered, securing a good road from Indochina and Singapore. I'm clearing the whole area with regiments taken from Luzon, so that i can keep on pushing without worring much of my back.
At Changsha i'm trying to threaten his right flank and he's already moved back at least 7 corps, while the 22nd Division is doing very well fighting 3 enemy corps south of Chansga. After today battle, they no longer rapresent a real threat being completely out of supplies and cut out from everything.
In the north we're trying to push on 3 different vectors (see map)...but it won't be easy...we'll do our best!

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Submarine attack near Wakkanai at 124,48

Japanese Ships
xAK Nitiyo Maru, Torpedo hits 1, heavy damage

Allied Ships
SS Pompano
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Ground combat at 82,55 (near Pingsiang)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 11385 troops, 97 guns, 36 vehicles, Assault Value = 319

Defending force 4806 troops, 68 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 37

Japanese adjusted assault: 319

Allied adjusted defense: 12

Japanese assault odds: 26 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: leaders(+), experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker: leaders(+)

Japanese ground losses:
62 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 7 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled

Allied ground losses:
1595 casualties reported
Squads: 116 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 65 destroyed, 6 disabled
Engineers: 3 destroyed, 8 disabled
Guns lost 23 (8 destroyed, 15 disabled)
Units retreated 3

Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
22nd Division

Defending units:
25th Chinese Corps
65th Chinese Corps
12th Group Army

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Ground combat at 73,52 (near Tuyun)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 10864 troops, 240 guns, 144 vehicles, Assault Value = 295

Defending force 7899 troops, 40 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 21

Japanese adjusted assault: 203

Allied adjusted defense: 76

Japanese assault odds: 2 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
92 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Vehicles lost 4 (1 destroyed, 3 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
1330 casualties reported
Squads: 101 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 114 destroyed, 21 disabled
Engineers: 5 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 8 (8 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units retreated 4

Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
2nd Tank Regiment
104th/A Division
104th/B Division
5th RF Gun Battalion
10th Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment
2nd Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
2nd RF Gun Battalion
23rd Army
2nd Mortar Battalion
21st Mortar Battalion
20th Ind. Mtn Gun Battalion

Defending units:
31st Chinese Corps
4th War Area
9th Group Army
7th Chinese Base Force

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Ground combat at Singapore (50,84)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 113632 troops, 1111 guns, 328 vehicles, Assault Value = 2980

Defending force 46210 troops, 471 guns, 292 vehicles, Assault Value = 848

Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 0

Japanese adjusted assault: 3967

Allied adjusted defense: 1231

Japanese assault odds: 3 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Singapore !!!

Allied aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft losses
Vildebeest III: 1 destroyed

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
2733 casualties reported
Squads: 15 destroyed, 338 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 48 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 60 disabled
Vehicles lost 7 (1 destroyed, 6 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
51193 casualties reported
Squads: 1182 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 2544 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 146 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 645 (645 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Vehicles lost 327 (327 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units destroyed 28

Assaulting units:
Imperial Guards Division
56th Engineer Regiment
5th Division
4th Division
15th Ind Engineer Regiment
21st Division
113th Infantry Regiment
4th Ind Engineer Regiment
41st Infantry Regiment
33rd Division
148th Infantry Regiment
2nd Division
18th Division
23rd Ind Engineer Regiment
17th Indpt Guards Regiment
1st RF Gun Battalion
3rd Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment
18th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
25th Army
56th Field Artillery Regiment
3rd Medium Field Artillery Regiment
5th Mortar Battalion
14th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
3rd Mortar Battalion
21st Medium Field Artillery Battalion

Defending units:
27th Australian Brigade
1st Manchester Battalion
3rd Cavalry Regiment
SSVF Brigade
11th Indian Division
2nd Loyal Battalion
1st Malay Battalion
2nd Gordons Battalion
22nd Australian Brigade
2nd Malay Battalion
9th Indian Division
110th RAF Adv Base Force
1st HK&S Heavy AA Regiment
Malayan Air Wing
Singapore Fortress
III Indian Corps
Singapore Base Force
22nd Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
AHQ Far East
2nd HK&S Heavy AA Regiment
1st Indian Heavy AA Regiment
223 Group RAF
111th RAF Adv Base Force
24th NZ Pioneer Coy
2/17 Dogra Battalion
Malaya Army
3rd Heavy AA Regiment
109th RN Base Force

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Ground combat at Cheribon (51,100) (south of Kalidati)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 2165 troops, 12 guns, 71 vehicles, Assault Value = 99

Defending force 240 troops, 11 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1

Japanese adjusted assault: 47

Allied adjusted defense: 1

Japanese assault odds: 47 to 1 (fort level 1)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Cheribon !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: leaders(+), leaders(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
19 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Allied ground losses:
259 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 9 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 13 (13 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units destroyed 1

Assaulting units:
6th Tank Regiment
91st Naval Guard Unit

Defending units:
Cheribon Defenses

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RE: Let's start! - 8/9/2012 2:14:55 AM

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RE: Let's start! - 8/9/2012 2:18:52 AM

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Careful what you repair at Singapore.

If most of the industry there is destroyed, you may be better off leaving it like that instead of spending the HI and supplies needed to repair it.

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RE: Let's start! - 8/9/2012 3:35:37 AM

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I was going to give you an "Impulse Disorder" but you're Italian, so I had to rule that out.

Singapore - Break those heavily disabled divisions into their A, B, and C components and set to "Rest." Assign leaders with high Inspiration, Leadership and then Land skills in that order. Make sure the Southern Command HQ (or a Naval Command HQ) is there with over 20k in supplies. If these two conditions are met, then you will take any needed replacements daily vs every third day.

Malaya - I would plan on expanding Heavy Industry at Georgetown to 25 and Singapore to 75. These take priority for supply usage over any other economic asset. The Repair Shipyard is a personal preference thing. I would have it be at least 50 in size and then afterwards its up to you. Some players like to make the Repair Shipyard at Soerabaja about the same size. I want it at 50 so I can get a CV or BB in there, except Yamato, and maybe another warship. LI and/or Resource repair is not done by most players.

Vehicles - How much did you expand this and what is your current stockpile?? You get an extra tank division plus the components of the other two divisions by July so you wnat those numbers to be going up significantly. Next time you update Tracker, pull up "LCU Production" and sort for 180 days so you can see where you are in this area.

OT - I'm glad my China looks so much better that yours as the Allies at a similar point. Olorin has been frustrated in front of Sian for the time being. I've added over 500 Chinese Infantry Squads to my forces already.

KUDOS on Singapore !!

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RE: Let's start! - 8/10/2012 1:11:56 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: ny59giants

I was going to give you an "Impulse Disorder" but you're Italian, so I had to rule that out.

Singapore - Break those heavily disabled divisions into their A, B, and C components and set to "Rest." Assign leaders with high Inspiration, Leadership and then Land skills in that order. Make sure the Southern Command HQ (or a Naval Command HQ) is there with over 20k in supplies. If these two conditions are met, then you will take any needed replacements daily vs every third day.

Malaya - I would plan on expanding Heavy Industry at Georgetown to 25 and Singapore to 75. These take priority for supply usage over any other economic asset. The Repair Shipyard is a personal preference thing. I would have it be at least 50 in size and then afterwards its up to you. Some players like to make the Repair Shipyard at Soerabaja about the same size. I want it at 50 so I can get a CV or BB in there, except Yamato, and maybe another warship. LI and/or Resource repair is not done by most players.

Vehicles - How much did you expand this and what is your current stockpile?? You get an extra tank division plus the components of the other two divisions by July so you wnat those numbers to be going up significantly. Next time you update Tracker, pull up "LCU Production" and sort for 180 days so you can see where you are in this area.

OT - I'm glad my China looks so much better that yours as the Allies at a similar point. Olorin has been frustrated in front of Sian for the time being. I've added over 500 Chinese Infantry Squads to my forces already.

KUDOS on Singapore !!

I've expanded Vehicles by 80...pools look good so far. Losses have been very low in terms of tanks...
At singapore we're having lots of problem with supplies...we're still repairing the facilities (not the industries, i mean port, runaways and airfields) cause they were 100% damaged (not me, i bombed only the AFs!)....supplies are very low in Singa and overall in the whole Indochina...in Burma the supply situation is so critical that i had to stop any offensive

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Feb 15, 42

In Java we entered into Batavia. He still has 50 P-40s there and some bombers, so i have to be carefull... We're also advancing towards Sabarang, cutting the Isle in two pieces.

In china things look good! we took with paras another important dot base north of Ichang (see map) and now, with the opening of the mountain road to Sian and with another forming pocket south of it, the whole sian sector is crumbling down...if he doesnt get out fast he risks of having more than 300k men pocketed South of Sian!

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Submarine attack near Christmas Island at 184,132

Japanese Ships
SS I-8

Allied Ships
TK Mobilgas, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage

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Ground combat at 74,56 (near Liuchow)

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 4211 troops, 32 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 119

Defending force 1218 troops, 13 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 3

Japanese adjusted assault: 109

Allied adjusted defense: 3

Japanese assault odds: 36 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), disruption(-), experience(-)
supply(-)
Attacker: shock(+), leaders(+), leaders(-)

Japanese ground losses:
11 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

Allied ground losses:
392 casualties reported
Squads: 28 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 14 destroyed, 4 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 8 (2 destroyed, 6 disabled)
Units retreated 1

Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
4th Ind.Mixed Regiment

Defending units:
64th Chinese/C Corps

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Ground combat at Patung (81,46)

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 522 troops, 3 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 31

Defending force 345 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1

Japanese adjusted assault: 23

Allied adjusted defense: 4

Japanese assault odds: 5 to 1 (fort level 1)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Patung !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), op mode(-), leaders(+), preparation(-)
experience(-)
Attacker: shock(+), leaders(+), leaders(-)

Allied ground losses:
111 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 3 destroyed, 5 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Units retreated 1

Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
2nd Raiding Rgt /1

Defending units:
11th Chinese Base Force

The more i think of it and the more i like the idea of the "chinese strategy".
To support this strategy i need not to take stupid risks in dangerous voyages and adventures...let's take Burma and let's take northern oz...then we can dig in and finish China with ease....

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RE: Let's start! - 8/10/2012 10:45:04 AM

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Feb 16, 42
I took a deep look into Tracker. In the whole Malaya there are only 26k supplies, while in Indochina (say Camra Bay and Saigon), not more than 45k....The fact that in this mod Palembang doesn't produce supplies and that Singapore industries are all damaged is clearly creating some heavy problems to my war efforts.
However, we have to soldier on and find a solution. Now 100k supplies are being shipped from Formosa (where i don't need them anymore), along with 10 AA units and 4 base forces. These will all be moved to Singa.
Convoys are now formed. Most of my xAKs and TKs are now being moved (with decent escort) from rear area bases to Singapore. As soon as the area is secured (meaning decent ASW cover and Batavia AF shut down) we will start to pump from Palembang (whose port is now at 5 and 40%) oil, resources and fuel.
In one week we'll start to load troops from Singapore for the next operations against Burma, northern Oz and Sumatra/Java. Would like to make the first landings by the first week of March 42.
Everything seems quiet in the pacific (NOPAC included). We're spotting several heavy escorted convoys moving around Christmas Island. This probably means he will attempt some early move against the Marshalls/Gilberts. I'm securing the whole area but it takes time cause that front is not a priority. However i'm garrisoning all the important atolls, and keeping 60 Netties along with 40 Zeros there just in case. Wake and Marcus are now fully defended, with 6k men each (stacking limit). Each of them have a base force (with DP guns), a Naval guard unit and an AA unit. Should be enough to prevent an easy grabbing.
I'm also building up the Kuriles...just in case he wanna make a "greyjoy" :-D
Strategically my ideas are getting clearer. I want to estabilish a historical perimeter in Burma and in CENTPAC/NOPAC and SOPAC, with the only exception for SWPAC where NG and Northern Oz will be included, while building a strong defensive line in Bungaville/Caroline and in Timor-Ambon line. A special attention will be given to China, where now i really think i can shrink his defensive lines up to the Chungking area. The goals in china, for the next 6 months, are the following:
1- Cut the burma road and start applying a strong pressure in Western China.
2- Force him, manouvreing (sp!?), to abbandon Changsha, making a series of strategic flanking movements.
3- Clear everything in the south so to secure the road connection Singapore-Bankok-Hanoi-Canton-Shangai (hopefully fuel and resources will flow to Shangai all the way from Singapore).
4- Conquer Sian and isolating Chunking from the northern China (either by flanking or by brute force).
once these goals are achieved (and i think they can be achieved), i'll stop and consider what to do next (if keep on pushing or simply sit down and dig in).

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Ground combat at 82,56 (near Kanhsien) *The 22nd Division goes on with its task of clearing the interior lines of Southern China*

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 11325 troops, 97 guns, 36 vehicles, Assault Value = 315

Defending force 3263 troops, 61 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 14

Japanese adjusted assault: 111

Allied adjusted defense: 9

Japanese assault odds: 12 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(-), morale(-), experience(-)
Attacker: shock(+)

Japanese ground losses:
99 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 4 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled

Allied ground losses:
1095 casualties reported
Squads: 83 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 74 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 2 destroyed, 4 disabled
Guns lost 17 (7 destroyed, 10 disabled)
Units retreated 3

Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
22nd Division

Defending units:
25th Chinese Corps
65th Chinese Corps
12th Group Army
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Ground combat at Kukong (79,57) *This is probably the last Chinese corp in a decent fighting shape in the whole area from Kukong to Canton-Nanning*

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 5214 troops, 49 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 142

Defending force 1434 troops, 12 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 53

Assaulting units:
3rd New Chinese Corps

Defending units:
20th RGC Division

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RE: Let's start! - 8/10/2012 1:15:30 PM

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I've played japan enough to known that one of the most difficult things to master is the logistical efforts needed to follow up the at start set up. Making sure you have supply, fuel, troops, and ships to smoothly transit from one operation to the next is stressful.

Take Singapore as an example. When it is close to falling, did you have DMS stationed at Mersing to go over to sweep the mines or were they still at Saigon and/or CamRahn Bay?? In one of my first games as Japan, it was another week before I could use the port due to this oversight.

Then, there is loading up the excessive supply and fuel at those two bases and have those transports over at Malaya waiting for the port to become operational. All these delays hurt and time is not your friend for the first six months like it is for the Allies.

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RE: Let's start! - 8/10/2012 5:10:16 PM

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GJ,

Take yourself back around a calendar year or so. Recall the terrified lad who started an AAR in the panic of Rader's moves in China. "He's bombing everywhere! I am trading blood for time!"

Now observe the Chinese front in this game, as you calmly recover from Q's initial offensive in southern China, then counter in the north, center and south to drive him back everywhere. He is on the verge of losing key bases and being left with insufficient supply generating capacity to support his armies.

It is possible to make too much of this, as a competent Japanese player is generally capable of defeating a competent Allied player in AE on the China front. But, doesn't that mean you are... A competent Japanese player?

In short, THE SERVANT HAS BECOME THE MASTER!!!!!

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RE: Let's start! - 8/11/2012 1:40:29 AM

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Very true Micheal...but i almost had everything ready...minesweepers were based at Palembang, ready to do their job, while the bulk of the navy was anchored at Singora...far from enemy's eyes...the point is that i didn't stockpile any supplies, thinking (stupid me!) to catch some of them, along with fuel etc, when the city had fallen....not a single ton of supply was found at Singa!!!

Crib....Thanks

...i was lucky Brad had left open that door for the paras at tsuyun and Ankang... however, since those days against Rader, i think i've learnt much...i knew it was a good training ground to be beaten badly for 3 years

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Feb 17,18,19, 42
In the last three days the situation at Singa has improoved, with the arrival of 30k supplies and the same goes for Burma, where finally the horrible road connection from Indochina has flown in some thousands supplies.
His subs keep on driving me mad... even against heavy escorted convoys and in shallow waters :-@....4 succesfull attacks in the last 3 days...and i even lost a precious AK! Damned!!!
In Burma he's fleeing without fighting...don't understand why...i barely have there the 55th Division (well, part of it) and some weak RTA divisions...he's abbandoning everything but Rangoon....(see map)...strange!
We're almost ready with the shippings at Singa, but with the situation in Burma changed so much in the last week i'm reconsidering my plans...won't need anything more than 2 additional divisions to clear out the whole Burma theatre...
200k supplies and 200k fuel arrived at Truk, along with 5 base forces, 7 AA units, 1 more air HQ and 2 Naval Guard Units. All these men will secure the Solomons/NG sector and start building it up (Lunga and Tulagi are already 1-1 AF-port levels).
An Amphib TF has just left Kendari and will attack Koepang in 4 days.
Another Amphib TF, with 3 regiments, will leave Kendari tomorrow, escorted by a strong SCTF group, and will land at Kalidati in order to speed up the conquest of Java.
Not a single sign of his navy anywhere on the map....
In China we're making very good progresses towards Sian. Now we are in the plains!!! the 1st army managed to finally breakthrough even with his back threatened by 3 enemy corps (badly battered) that managed to come out of the woods. Already 2 Indipendent Bdes are taking care of the problem. 5 Tanks units are on march in order to exploit this opening...while not less than 18 enemy units are trapped in the woods north of Nanyang...if he doesn't flee fast he will be lost!! The southern perimeter of this forming HUGE pocket is held by 2 Japanese armies, composed of 40,000 men each (stacking limit), while at Ankang we already have 1 division, 1 SNLF unit, 1 Indipendent Regiment and 5 tank units...enough to hold and also enough to send more units to threaten his flanks at Sian
The Paras are pushing towards the interior lines at Puchen (north of Ichang), where only a tiny base force is facing us in the main road...another full army is arrining on foot, composed by 2 Inf Divisions and several minor units.
In the South we're slowly clearling our interior lines...
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Sub attack near Groot Natoena at 57,82

Japanese Ships
AK Sado Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
SC Ch 16
SC Ch 13
AK Kaga Maru
AK Sakura Maru
xAP Kobe Maru
xAP Hakusan Maru
xAK Akiura Maru
xAK Asakasan Maru
xAK Katuragi Maru
xAK Azuma Maru
xAK Sydney Maru
xAK Awazisan Maru
TB Kasasagi
TB Otori
PB Rokko Maru #2

Allied Ships
SS O24, hits 1

Japanese ground losses:
15 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

SS O24 launches 2 torpedoes at AK Sado Maru
TB Kasasagi fails to find sub, continues to search...
TB Otori fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Rokko Maru #2 attacking submerged sub ....
TB Kasasagi fails to find sub and abandons search
TB Otori fails to find sub and abandons search
PB Rokko Maru #2 fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Rokko Maru #2 fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Rokko Maru #2 fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Rokko Maru #2 fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

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Ground combat at 86,42 (near Loyang) *south of the 1st Army*

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 25842 troops, 174 guns, 4 vehicles, Assault Value = 810

Defending force 7084 troops, 43 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 179

Assaulting units:
6th Ind.Mixed Brigade
35th Division
53rd Infantry Brigade

Defending units:
38th Chinese Corps
4th Group Army

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Ground combat at 85,41 (near Sian) *the 1st Army breaks through the Sian plains!*

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 37302 troops, 301 guns, 40 vehicles, Assault Value = 1083

Defending force 422 troops, 13 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 2

Japanese adjusted assault: 919

Allied adjusted defense: 1

Japanese assault odds: 919 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: op mode(-), disruption(-), morale(-), experience(-)
supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
15 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Allied ground losses:
527 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 70 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 2 (2 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units retreated 2

Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
37th Division
41st Division
4th Ind.Mixed Brigade
9th Ind.Mixed Brigade
1st Army
6th Medium Field Artillery Regiment

Defending units:
43rd Chinese Corps
8th Group Army

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Ground combat at Kukong (79,57) :-)

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 4956 troops, 49 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 125

Defending force 1416 troops, 12 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 50

Allied adjusted assault: 29

Japanese adjusted defense: 31

Allied assault odds: 1 to 2 (fort level 0)

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), preparation(-), experience(-)
Attacker: shock(+), leaders(-), disruption(-)

Japanese ground losses:
55 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 11 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Allied ground losses:
140 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 28 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled

Assaulting units:
3rd New Chinese Corps

Defending units:
20th RGC Division

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RE: Let's start! - 8/11/2012 1:41:58 AM

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RE: Let's start! - 8/11/2012 1:42:46 AM

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RE: Let's start! - 8/11/2012 10:50:05 AM

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Feb 20, 42

Overall a good turn, despite some disappointing seatbacks.
In China things look bright. It seems that he's reinforcing Sian. 2 more units are spotted today...more than 80,000 men there...but the terrain and the arrival of my tanks can make his life really nasty if he wants to defend it...
On the mountain road the 2 Bdes that are following the 1st army managed to defeat the 3 corps that got out of the pocket...they didn't retreat and that probably means they have no way out...so they will be destroyed there...2 HQs and 3 Corps...not bad!
Tomorrow we'll attack with the Mongol HQ, just south of the 1st Army, widening the gap and opening a new path towards Sian.
Tomorrow we'll also attack with our paras on the road from Pucheng...i wanna arrive at the rivercrossing south of Chungking and cut one of the 2 major roads that connect Changsha area to Chungking.

In Burma we easily conquered Rangoon today.

In Java we exchanged good blows with his P-40s sweeping from Batavia at Kalidati, but then our betties from Kendari decided to attack unescorted his PT boats at Sosarbaja...

11 betties lost with their priceless pre-war pilots

....

Koepang invasion is on the way...

Singapore is slowly getting better...and all my ships are gathering there.... in three days we'll start loading

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Morning Air attack on Kalidjati , at 50,99

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid spotted at 25 NM, estimated altitude 22,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 18
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 7

Allied aircraft
P-40E Warhawk x 19

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
P-40E Warhawk: 1 destroyed

CAP engaged:
3rd Ku S-1 with A6M2 Zero (0 airborne, 12 on standby, 0 scrambling)
6 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters to 20000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 26 minutes
84th I.F.Chutai with Ki-43-Ic Oscar (0 airborne, 5 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters to 20000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 11 minutes

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Soerabaja at 56,104

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 12 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 6

Allied aircraft
Buffalo I x 8

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 4 destroyed

No Allied losses

CAP engaged:
No.243 Sqn RAF with Buffalo I (8 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(8 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
8 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 9000
Raid is overhead

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Soerabaja at 56,104

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 46 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 15 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 6

Allied aircraft
Buffalo I x 6

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 4 destroyed

No Allied losses

Allied Ships
HDML 1096

Aircraft Attacking:
1 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 45cm Type 91 Torp

CAP engaged:
No.243 Sqn RAF with Buffalo I (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 2 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 9000 , scrambling fighters between 5000 and 9000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 67 minutes

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Ground combat at 86,42 (near Loyang) * tomorrow we'll attack here!*

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 13500 troops, 76 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 810

Defending force 7084 troops, 43 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 179

Assaulting units:
35th Division
6th Ind.Mixed Brigade
53rd Infantry Brigade

Defending units:
38th Chinese Corps
4th Group Army

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Ground combat at 86,41 (near Loyang)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 13312 troops, 76 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 404

Defending force 5066 troops, 39 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 48

Japanese adjusted assault: 193

Allied adjusted defense: 17

Japanese assault odds: 11 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
90 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

Allied ground losses:
580 casualties reported
Squads: 19 destroyed, 26 disabled
Non Combat: 22 destroyed, 6 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Guns lost 5 (1 destroyed, 4 disabled)

Assaulting units:
7th Ind.Mixed Brigade
15th Ind.Mixed Brigade

Defending units:
40th Chinese Corps
8th New Chinese Corps
15th Chinese Corps
1st War Area
39th Group Army

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Ground combat at 77,58 (near Canton)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 3621 troops, 26 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 99

Defending force 4400 troops, 42 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 93

Japanese adjusted assault: 40

Allied adjusted defense: 11

Japanese assault odds: 3 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: disruption(-), experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker: leaders(-)

Japanese ground losses:
97 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 12 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Allied ground losses:
1664 casualties reported
Squads: 47 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 66 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 2 destroyed, 1 disabled
Guns lost 2 (1 destroyed, 1 disabled)
Units retreated 1

Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
1st Formosa Inf. Regiment

Defending units:
63rd Chinese Corps

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Ground combat at Rangoon (54,53)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 16038 troops, 139 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 522

Defending force 5979 troops, 56 guns, 15 vehicles, Assault Value = 117

Japanese adjusted assault: 553

Allied adjusted defense: 85

Japanese assault odds: 6 to 1 (fort level 2)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Rangoon !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
702 casualties reported
Squads: 4 destroyed, 47 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 9 disabled

Allied ground losses:
2752 casualties reported
Squads: 26 destroyed, 36 disabled
Non Combat: 95 destroyed, 20 disabled
Engineers: 16 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 37 (25 destroyed, 12 disabled)
Vehicles lost 13 (13 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units retreated 8
Units destroyed 1

Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
112th Infantry Regiment
1st RTA Division
55th Engineer Regiment
55th Cavalry Regiment
15th Guards Regiment
15th Army
55th Mountain Gun Regiment

Defending units:
1st Gloucestershire Battalion
4th Burma Rifles Battalion
Rangoon BAF Battalion
12th Burma Rifles Battalion
2nd King Own YLI Battalion
103rd RN Base Force
27th Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
221 Group RAF
107th RAF Base Force

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RE: Let's start! - 8/11/2012 4:06:03 PM

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ORIGINAL: GreyJoy

The 12th of Feb is an important date for the Empire: Singapore fell with 55k enemy men!!!
The worst part is that EVERY SINGLE facility in Singa is damaged...i'll need sooooo many supplies to repair them

Repairing LI anywhere is practically never worth the supply expenditure. You will need almost 3 years to return 1000 supply/point investment. Repairing HI or refineries is about whether you can affort to expend supply to save fuel (both HI production and refinery capacity in Home Islands exceed oil sources capacity already, you need any extra only to process oil into fuel and then HI points locally, thus not burning fuel when transporting them). Repair shipyard in Singapore, though, might well justify a big expansion.

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RE: Let's start! - 8/11/2012 8:15:45 PM

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I think he has no choice but to start evacuating the Changsha sector. And, he had better be quick about it.

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RE: Let's start! - 8/11/2012 9:15:08 PM

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Feb 21, 42

Thanks Fatr. In fact i'm not repairing LI...only HI (usefull imho) and naval shipyard (never have enough of them)!

We landed at Timor but Brad ambushed us with the ducth bombers escorted by P-40s coming from Java...we shot down 6 enemy planes losing oonly 1 oscar on LRCAP from Kendari. We lost a transport, but the troops are ashore...hopefully we won't need to reinforce it...we'll see tomorrow how the shock attack goes.

We started to load at Singapore the 4 reinforced regiments (mainly belonging to Guards division and 56th Division) that will land at Java and finish the Java campaign . Tomorrow we'll start to load the divisions bound for Burma.
We'll also paradrop at Akyab tomorrow...wanna get the whole Burma asap. The divisions that will come here will finish the last resistances there and then will push towards Western China.

In China the Mongol army managed to push back the enemy corp on the dirty road south of the mountain one (where the 1st Army is marching towards Sian). In the latter road, the 2 Indipended Bdes that are following the 1st army managed to destroy 2 enemy corps that came out of the pocket...we're clearing our way!

At Sian things are moving...enemy troops moving south and north from it...wanna reinforce the southern perimeter?!!??!? he's risking a lot here imho...

We're also almost ready to circle Yenan.

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Koepang at 68,116

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 16 NM, estimated altitude 4,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
     A6M2 Zero x 4
     Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 7

Allied aircraft
     139WH-3 x 12
     P-40E Warhawk x 19

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
     139WH-3: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged
     P-40E Warhawk: 1 destroyed

Japanese Ships
     xAK Macassar Maru
     xAK Konan Maru
     xAK Tosei Maru, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires
     xAK Kizan Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire

Japanese ground losses:
     195 casualties reported
        Squads: 0 destroyed, 6 disabled
        Non Combat: 3 destroyed, 16 disabled
        Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
      6 x 139WH-3 bombing from 1000 feet
              Naval Attack: 1 x 300 kg SAP Bomb
      6 x 139WH-3 bombing from 1000 feet
              Naval Attack: 1 x 300 kg SAP Bomb

CAP engaged:
Tainan Ku S-1 with A6M2 Zero (4 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
     4 plane(s) intercepting now.
     Group patrol altitude is 6000
     Raid is overhead
260th Sentai with Ki-43-Ib Oscar (7 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
     7 plane(s) intercepting now.
     Group patrol altitude is 8000
     Raid is overhead

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Koepang at 68,116

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 15 NM, estimated altitude 2,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
     A6M2 Zero x 4
     Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 7

Allied aircraft
     139WH-3 x 9
     P-40E Warhawk x 10

Japanese aircraft losses
     Ki-43-Ib Oscar: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
     139WH-3: 1 destroyed, 4 damaged
     139WH-3: 1 destroyed by flak
     P-40E Warhawk: 1 destroyed

Japanese Ships
     xAK Kiso Maru
     xAK Kinjosan Maru
     xAK Tosei Maru, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires

Japanese ground losses:
     200 casualties reported
        Squads: 1 destroyed, 11 disabled
        Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled
        Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
      3 x 139WH-3 bombing from 1000 feet
              Naval Attack: 1 x 300 kg SAP Bomb
      4 x 139WH-3 bombing from 1000 feet
              Naval Attack: 1 x 300 kg SAP Bomb

CAP engaged:
Tainan Ku S-1 with A6M2 Zero (4 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
     4 plane(s) intercepting now.
     Group patrol altitude is 6000
     Raid is overhead
260th Sentai with Ki-43-Ib Oscar (7 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
     7 plane(s) intercepting now.
     Group patrol altitude is 8000
     Raid is overhead

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Ground combat at 82,57 (near Kanhsien) *22nd division clearing the south*

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 11360 troops, 97 guns, 36 vehicles, Assault Value = 311

Defending force 2244 troops, 53 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 10

Japanese adjusted assault: 145

Allied adjusted defense: 7

Japanese assault odds: 20 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), fatigue(-), morale(-)
experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker: leaders(-)

Japanese ground losses:
     50 casualties reported
        Squads: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
        Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
        Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Allied ground losses:
     1235 casualties reported
        Squads: 48 destroyed, 0 disabled
        Non Combat: 56 destroyed, 1 disabled
        Engineers: 4 destroyed, 1 disabled
     Guns lost 20 (16 destroyed, 4 disabled)
     Units retreated 3

Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
   22nd Division

Defending units:
   25th Chinese Corps
   65th Chinese Corps
   12th Group Army

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Ground combat at 86,42 (near Loyang) *Mongol army opening the way*

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 25833 troops, 174 guns, 4 vehicles, Assault Value = 809

Defending force 7076 troops, 43 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 179

Japanese adjusted assault: 628

Allied adjusted defense: 130

Japanese assault odds: 4 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
     560 casualties reported
        Squads: 1 destroyed, 55 disabled
        Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
        Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled

Allied ground losses:
     2246 casualties reported
        Squads: 54 destroyed, 21 disabled
        Non Combat: 86 destroyed, 13 disabled
        Engineers: 2 destroyed, 2 disabled
     Guns lost 9 (1 destroyed, 8 disabled)
     Units retreated 2

Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
   6th Ind.Mixed Brigade
   35th Division
   53rd Infantry Brigade

Defending units:
   38th Chinese Corps
   4th Group Army

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Ground combat at 86,41 (near Loyang) *destroying those who dared to escape from the Loyang pocket*

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 13248 troops, 76 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 399

Defending force 4536 troops, 38 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 10

Japanese adjusted assault: 296

Allied adjusted defense: 9

Japanese assault odds: 32 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), disruption(-), fatigue(-), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
     26 casualties reported
        Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
        Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
        Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Allied ground losses:
     1313 casualties reported
        Squads: 46 destroyed, 0 disabled
        Non Combat: 48 destroyed, 6 disabled
        Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
     Guns lost 15 (1 destroyed, 14 disabled)
     Units destroyed 2

Assaulting units:
   7th Ind.Mixed Brigade
   15th Ind.Mixed Brigade

Defending units:
   40th Chinese Corps
   15th Chinese Corps
   1st War Area
   8th New Chinese Corps
   39th Group Army

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Ground combat at 79,47 (near Patung) *paras advancing towards southern Chungking area*

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 897 troops, 3 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 31

Defending force 216 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1

Japanese adjusted assault: 64

Allied adjusted defense: 1

Japanese assault odds: 64 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), morale(-), experience(-)
Attacker: shock(+), leaders(+)

Allied ground losses:
     91 casualties reported
        Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
        Non Combat: 6 destroyed, 0 disabled
        Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
     Units retreated 1

Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
   2nd Raiding Regiment

Defending units:
   11th Chinese Base Force

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Ground combat at Koepang (68,116)

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 591 troops, 8 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 63

Defending force 3067 troops, 25 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 91

Assaulting units:
   Timor Garrison Battalion
   Dili Detachment
   1/10th Avn Sup Afd

Defending units:
   Kure 1st SNLF
   Sasebo 2nd SNLF

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RE: Let's start! - 8/11/2012 9:15:53 PM

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ORIGINAL: crsutton

I think he has no choice but to start evacuating the Changsha sector. And, he had better be quick about it.

I agree...but Brad seems to think differently...

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RE: Let's start! - 8/11/2012 10:36:37 PM

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Feb 20, 42

Overall a good turn, despite some disappointing seatbacks.

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RE: Let's start! - 8/12/2012 6:23:33 PM

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Isn't it ironic that those "priceless per-war Betty pilots" aren't smart enough to resist attacking PT boats and other "small fry" like AMc and CMc with torpedos (or anything else)?? IRL I suspect they were generally much smarter than that, but that the computer programers were not smart enough to give those pilots a very high percentage chance to just ignore such "targets". Not being a programmer, I am speaking out of school, but I suspect such a program fix was possible.

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RE: Let's start! - 8/12/2012 8:50:43 PM

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yeah, but then when those PT boats that were ignored sink a valuable asset like a troop laden Ap or a cruiser you will have people complaining about that. In fact i was reading some old WitP threads and it seemed the only way to get rid of pt boats was to strafe them with fighters/FB.

Also from a realism point of view, AC generally expended their Ordinance on any target available, or jettisoned it into the sea. Wasnt deemed desirablle to save ordinance and risk it blowing up during a rough landing, safter to get rid of it instead. The game could use some tweaks on target priorities, maybe by changing the 'weighting' system, IE assign more points to larger, more valuable targets and thus changing the equation used in the launch algorithim to be more weighted towards target value vs DL.

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RE: Let's start! - 8/13/2012 9:34:04 AM

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Sorry for the delay guys, but i have a terrible internet connection here....

Feb 23-24 1942

The enemy subs are infesting the waters around Singapore...the KB is moving there but, despite having more than 150 bombers on ASW duties in those areas, they keep sinking my ships, even in Singapore harbour!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
Lost 1 precious AP and two xAKs in these two days, along with 1 AK badly damaged...

I think even Brad is suprised about how well his subs are performing!

At Singa we've loaded 3 infantry divisions and we're now ready to sail towards Burma. The KB is ready to anchor at Singa..I keep my finger crossed...if i got torpedoed now the whole 2nd phase can go on jeopardy!

At Akyab, after that our paras conquered the base, his bombers started to arrive in waves from Assam....The two Oscar sentais i sent there had to be retired after that more than 70 2 and 4Es pounded the base without suffering a single loss.

In China we exchanged several blows in the last two days. we lost a couple of battles (the one north of Nanyang pretty badly), but we are achieving our goals. Chansgah has been completely evacuated on the 24th and it seems that he's running away from the whole Changsha sector...so i'm conquering a very important supply production basin without firing a single shot :-)
At Sian we managed to safely estabilish an attacking position in the plains east of the city. He's trying to evacuate from the woods south of Sian, clearly in the attempt of avoiding a huge pocket.
At Tsuyun we're attending to a flanking manouvre...i achieved a couple of 1-1 in the woods NW of Tsuyun, but i'm confident of being able to conquer that hex and so threatening Kweyang directly, avoiding the rivercrossing.
Our paras south of Chungking are estabilishing a strongpoint (probably the turning point of the whole changsha campaign) on the crossroads and an entire Army is following up.
We also conquered back Ichang and we're now pushing forward.
Overall, in the last two days, we destroyed more than 400 chinese squads, losing "only" 60 of ours...not that bad.

Now a couple of maps showing the situation on the 23rd and on the 24th of Feb....

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RE: Let's start! - 8/13/2012 9:34:48 AM

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RE: Let's start! - 8/13/2012 9:55:52 AM

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quote:

The enemy subs are infesting the waters around Singapore...the KB is moving there but, despite having more than 150 bombers on ASW duties in those areas, they keep sinking my ships, even in Singapore harbour!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

seems a silly question buy you folks are playing with reliable USN torps off, right?

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RE: Let's start! - 8/13/2012 3:11:10 PM

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Have your troop convoys follow two ASW TFs with four escorts each. They may not sink any subs but they will make most of them duck while the convoy passes.
Re: the success rate, the Dutch and older US subs had reasonably reliable torps and if he replaced his starting sub commanders with very aggressive ones with high naval skills, they will brave a lot of opposition to get hits. Are a lot of the sub losses occuring at night when there is no air opposition? Are a lot of subs using their gun to attack (a sure sign of aggressive commanders) ? Your ASW will not score many hits on the subs because, as someone pointed out, the IJN did not have a depth charge that worked deeper than 100 feet. Best you can expect is to make them duck under and not get in position to attack.

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RE: Let's start! - 8/13/2012 3:24:09 PM

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Further on airborne ASW, here is the FAQ advice from "The War Room" on the subject:

quote:

7.1 ASW:

Until your pilots get to the 70+ exp, you won't attack consistently.

http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=2260787

To kill subs near your ports:

ASW Mission
100 feet (or 1000 if the plane will not go to 100)
Max Range
Use bombs not torps, if that is an option.

To see subs as far out as possible:

Naval Search Mission
6000 feet
Max Range
Use Bombs not torps, if that is an option.

Naval search...
High altitude will spot large TF's.
Lower altitudes spot smaller TF's.

Q:The Manual says the actual ASW range is half of the normal range. if the ASW range is 5, What's the actual range? 3 or 2?

A: A general rule of thumb is that if anything is divided, the fraction is usually thrown away, so if you have a range of 5, 1/2 would usually be 2.

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RE: Let's start! - 8/13/2012 6:14:07 PM

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hmmm..to help The japs or not to help... well since i offered advice to QBall on how i use my subs i guess i can offer you some advice as well-feel free to ignore it most people would :p

The best way I've found to deal with subs near ports are a combination of ASW and NAV search with a couple of H-K groups operating around the port. Basicly what you do is set half your planes to ASW @ 1000ft-100ft leads to higher op losses- and the other half to NAV search @ 2000 ft. Use patrol arcs, and use max non extended range for your patrol range. You will get lots of sighting this way, which leads to part two- the H-K groups. I use 2-4 groups of 2 ships each in my H-K groups. As the allies i get those wonderfull YP boats on the West Coast, so I use them. While generally not effective at actually killing the sub, they raise the DL of the enemy subs enough to render them inneffective. Once i have more effiecent sub hunters in decent numbers I'll add a DE/KV to the mix to have killing power. The Japanese player doesnt get YP boats, but you do get PBs which are just as good (though not very good).

Set up your patrols around the base in question and set thier react range to 3-4. I use 3x3x3 patrols in triangle shape with the first point near/at the port in question. In Singapore I'd use one patrol to the East, one to the South, and a third with a 1 hex patrol off of Singapore to the SE with my best ASW ships set to react 6.

In Theory the Air Patrols will spot the subs, raising thier DL high enough for the H-K groups to react and attack, further Raising the DL of the sub and rendering it ineffective. The Real H-K group gives you a chance to kill the enemy subs. As a point of fact subs operating around Singapore are susceptable to Japanase Depth charges, I've lost 3 subs due to operations off singapore. While none were sank as a direct result of an ASW attack, all 3 had to retire to Java for repairs and were sank in port by japanese A/C, had i tried to get them to Aussie/colombo they would likely have sank anyways.

In a side note the Japanese were unaware that US subs could dive more than 150 ft (45m) and thus often set thier D/C to detonate above the US subs. This changed when a piece of garbage named Sen Andrew J. May leaked this fact in a press conference, and the Japanese developed D/C which would detonate as deep as 250ft. Curiously Sen May never faced Disciplinary actions for this act of treason; though he was later convicted of accepting bribes and served 9 months in a Fedral prison..

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RE: Let's start! - 8/13/2012 6:19:38 PM

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Hi guys,

sorry but have very little time to post...thank you for your constant support.
BB Fanboy and Gmoney.... yes, i do everything you suggested! I have several ASW TFs, and my transports ALWAYS follow ASW TFs. I also have several sentais devoted to naval search and to ASW duties, with altitudes from 100 to 2000 ft.... i always spot them and attack them...but they seem to be always immune and they keep on attacking. and john...yes, we have US rel torp OFF :-)

I'll post in details tonight....just to let u know that a RO sub put 3 torps into BB New Mexico today south of Noumea....

see u later...

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