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[OT] Infantry Aces - 12/6/2002 9:15:48 PM

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If you have not read this book, you should. It's available in paperback, at $6.99 US or $10.00 Canadian. It's by a German named Franz Kurowski, who served as a reporter for the field forces in the Wermacht, and has been translated into English.

It tells the stories of 8 German Infantrymen - I've read the first 7 chapters - and what they did in the war, and the last chapter is a series of small articles about German tactics.

I'd post those here, if that's legal. I dunno if it is. If someone from Matrix could post here, or let me know, I'd appreciate it.

At 519 pages, not including the index, it's well worth the money.

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- 12/6/2002 9:18:09 PM

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Alex, there is another of his books out there, Panzer Aces, that's just as good but w/armor stories.

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- 12/6/2002 9:54:45 PM

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Yep, that was his first. I've not seen it yet, but when I do, I'm gonna get it!

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- 12/6/2002 9:58:50 PM

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Look on the Wargamer site. They have a little bar on the right side of the page that usually has this book up for ordering.

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- 12/6/2002 10:17:25 PM

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Still there, $4.93 a hit.

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- 12/7/2002 1:29:01 AM

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I've got Panzer Ace's,Panzer Ace's II and Infantrie Ace's.All in hard back from Federowizc Press[I hope I spelled it right]their book's are pricey but well made.It took me 10 year's to collect their translated series "The Leibstandarte" a five volume history of the 1st SS Panzer Division written by it's last commander Rudolph Lehman.If you want to read a DETAILED history of this unit this one is almost day to day in it's coverage.They are up to the third volume of the six part series on the history of "Das Reich"by Otto Weidinger the last commander of the Div.'s Panzergrenadier regiment "Der Fuhrer".It does'nt get bogged down with minutia like Lehman's book,a very good read.I also have read "tragedy of the Faithfull"which is a history of the III[germanishes]SS-Korp which was composed of the 4th SS-Panzergrenadier Brigade Nederland,formed by volunteer's from the Netherland's and the 11th SS-Freiwilligan-Panzergrenadier-Division Nordland,made up of scandinavian's.The tragedy was the fact that these guy's fought for Germany until the end,remnant's fighting in Berlin next to the frenchmen of the "Charlemagne Div.

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- 12/7/2002 3:42:48 AM

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i have a book called "panzertechnik" from franz kurowski.

it´s a really fat book almost 400 sides
and NICE pics.

sadly it only focuses on german panzers
and campaigns.

i thought there were allied tanks described,too.

if anyone wants this book i would sell or swap it
in exchange for a book about US + british tanks
and equipment e.t.c.

only to european people because of high shipping
costs overseas....

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- 12/9/2002 8:27:31 PM

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I have both in hardcover, one of the perks of my bookclub which also allows me to buy books like this routinely from my livingroom.:)

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- 12/10/2002 7:07:18 AM

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Frank...I believe the title is "Panzertactiks" and the sub-title is "German small unit armor tactic's"Federowicz press specializes in translation's of german language book's not available anywhere else.I wish I could trade but once I buy a book it becomes one of my children and I can't part with them[my ex-wife could'nt understand it]

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- 12/10/2002 10:15:29 PM

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i today saw some good books in the book store.

esp. one named "wolfschanze" about hitlers headquarter
with very good photosf rom adolf + some other criminals.

but also some good pics from german officers as rommel,
manstein etc.

and a sad photo about wounded and hungry russian POW
and one other from freezing german troops in stalingrad!

i always get angry on the nazis when i see such pics..

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- 12/10/2002 11:00:35 PM

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When I was compiling the photos for Lost Victories I found a large number of photos of Russian prisoners from the Uman and Kiev battles, some depicting huge columns trudging through the rain and some of being herded into open pens in the snow and mud with no shelter. In one photo alone there was a column of prisoners that was 15-16 wide and stretched all the way to the horizon. Curzio Malaparte gives a chilling description of the treatment of the prisoners from Uman in his books "Kaputt" and "The Volga Rises in Europe"

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- 12/10/2002 11:33:39 PM

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Makes you wonder though eh, how many Russians would NOT be in those lines if Stalin had not been such an efficient butcher of his own people.

Hitler will never rank with Stalin for gross waste of human life.

Russia is lucky all those purges didn't cost them their country.

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- 12/10/2002 11:46:55 PM

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i would say neither hitler or stalin gave a penny (to not write ****) for their people or soldiers. both were criminals and slaughterers. that´s it. but nazi germany had started the war so it must be more to blame (not forgeting of course the holocaust)

i think the allied (in most cases) did care more for their soldiers than germans or russians. okay, let´s say perhaps in the pacific the GI had to pay much blood in storming those japanese occupied islands and in the hurtgenwald battles (which was IIRC quite useless), too....

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- 12/11/2002 12:57:33 AM

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Hmmm bit risky there Frank saying the allies were careless with the leathernecks, those guys had it rough to be sure, but it was just that it was a rotten business.

Which makes it all the more clearer why we resorted to nuclear weapons.

As for Hitler starting the war in Europe, sure I guess he gets the credit. But no one is even remotely likely to credit Stalin with restraint.
He would have pushed first if that pleasure had not been taken from him. Communism had every intention of forcing it's agenda eventually as well.

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- 12/11/2002 2:55:58 AM

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les, i agree once more with you :)

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- 12/11/2002 4:02:23 AM

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Don't say things like that to loudly Frank hehe I am not sure your armour rating is up to what you might get into being a known Les agreer:)

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- 12/11/2002 4:30:52 AM

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In the battle for Peleliu the commanding General of the Ist Marine Division,General Rupertus,came under some sharp criticism for refusing to land additional troop's to support his men because he believed they could do it alone and put them through a meat grinder untill they were in such poor shape that he had to send in the army troop's.Bill D.Ross's book "Peleliu-Tragic Triumph"cover's it pretty well and is a very good book.The fact that the island did not have to be taken at all show's some disdain for the troop's involved.The reason given to take the island was to protect MacAurthur's flank against an air attack from the airfield on the island when he invaded the Phillipines,but the airfield was basically neutralized before the attack and there was no way the Japanese could reenforce the island,not with the U.S.fleet having control of the surrounding sea's

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- 12/11/2002 5:12:05 AM

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Hindsight is mainly annoying for how well it makes the past look in retrospect.

Patton slaps a soldier, bad judgement George.
Society flips out bad judgment people.

Patton doesn't get to fight in Italy, lucky for him and us I think.

Patton pisses off Russians in England, shut up George.
People want him fired because of it, stupid people, they are fighting a war to the death, they can't sack one of their best generals because he has a loud mouth.

Patton sits in the dog house during D Day. Lucky for us, because the Germans were afraid of George. They sure didn't think Normandy was genuine till it was to late.
Patton though is a break out General, he wanted to attack Calais himself. That would have been a bad judgement call too.
Lucky for us he had a big mouth.

I wouldn't want to have to walk in Rupertus's shoes. You don't always make good choices, and they never forgive the bad ones.

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- 12/11/2002 5:58:12 AM

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I agree,even "Chesty"Puller himeself criticised Rupertus after the battle.To say the least Rupertus was relieved after the battle.The Marines on Iwo Jima were likewise ground down to shadow's of their former selves.

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