Slitherine

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ORIGINAL: Panzerjaeger Hortlund

Yeah, bring in 5k AV from Manchuria.

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ORIGINAL: 1EyedJacks

regarding allied shock attack - that came from across the river?

Wow...

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Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 52428 troops, 465 guns, 84 vehicles, Assault Value = 1618

Defending force 31326 troops, 235 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 976

Japanese adjusted assault: 1628

Allied adjusted defense: 1235

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 4)

Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 3

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), leaders(+), experience(-)
Attacker: shock(+)

Japanese ground losses:
9087 casualties reported
Squads: 57 destroyed, 511 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 73 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 52 disabled
Guns lost 55 (4 destroyed, 51 disabled)


Allied ground losses:
1085 casualties reported
Squads: 7 destroyed, 92 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 14 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 21 disabled
Guns lost 29 (1 destroyed, 28 disabled)



Ground combat at 81,53 (near Changsha)

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 54533 troops, 455 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 4541

Defending force 50419 troops, 420 guns, 153 vehicles, Assault Value = 1851

Allied adjusted assault: 996

Japanese adjusted defense: 1953

Allied assault odds: 1 to 2

Combat modifiers
Defender: experience(-)
Attacker: shock(+)

Japanese ground losses:
1061 casualties reported
Squads: 6 destroyed, 258 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 8 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 28 disabled
Guns lost 17 (1 destroyed, 16 disabled)


Allied ground losses:
13067 casualties reported
Squads: 379 destroyed, 793 disabled
Non Combat: 248 destroyed, 55 disabled
Engineers: 16 destroyed, 33 disabled
Guns lost 82 (55 destroyed, 27 disabled)

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ORIGINAL: Capt. Harlock

That may just set the record for the bloodiest turn yet in an AAR.

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Ground combat at Hengyang (80,53)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 56186 troops, 583 guns, 245 vehicles, Assault Value = 1371

Defending force 106437 troops, 624 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 2072

Japanese adjusted assault: 993

Allied adjusted defense: 255

Japanese assault odds: 3 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Hengyang !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: disruption(-), preparation(-), experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
6369 casualties reported
Squads: 119 destroyed, 294 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 73 disabled
Engineers: 3 destroyed, 44 disabled
Guns lost 53 (1 destroyed, 52 disabled)


Allied ground losses:
38754 casualties reported
Squads: 1422 destroyed, 12 disabled
Non Combat: 1247 destroyed, 45 disabled
Engineers: 127 destroyed, 2 disabled
Guns lost 178 (151 destroyed, 27 disabled)
Units retreated 18


Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
22nd/A Division
39th Division
15th/C Division
116th/B Division
19th Ind.Mixed Brigade
5th Armored Car Co
12th Indpt Infantry Regiment
15th/A Division
6th Division
12th Tank Regiment
32nd/A Division
22nd/B Division
116th/C Division
2nd Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
3rd Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
2nd Mortar Battalion
10th Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment
20th Ind. Mtn Gun Battalion

Defending units:
56th Chinese Corps
70th Chinese Corps
100th Chinese Corps
14th Chinese Corps
50th Chinese Corps
10th Chinese Corps
74th Chinese Corps
8th New Chinese Corps
63rd Chinese Corps
49th Chinese Division
84th Chinese Corps
25th Chinese Corps
28th New Chinese Division
18th Chinese Corps
39th New Chinese Division
10th Group Army
7th War Area
12th Group Army

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ORIGINAL: crsutton

Just no way at this point in the game that the Chinese units will have the experience or morale to take on 1st line Japanese troops. People seem to get fixated on total AV but you have better experience, guns, more MMG squads and your squads have higher firepower. Not to mention control of the air. Even Indian division have trouble at this stage.