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That time of the year again - Books Needed - 11/12/2012 12:23:36 AM   
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Status: offline 		Last year I asked for and got some good suggestions to start my book collection. I got Shattered Sword and The Rising Sun - thanks to your suggestions. Now the time has come again to add a couple more books - so what would you guys recommend ? I enjoyed them both. So fire away and I will give your suggestions to my wife for a couple more additions. Thanks alot.

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RE: That time of the year again - Books Needed - 11/12/2012 1:23:33 AM   
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aces of the pacific manual

if you can open it that is


a comprehensive overview of the entire pacific war

300 pages of battle summaries, aircraft specs, air tactics and more



http://www.old-games.com/getfree/6538

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RE: That time of the year again - Books Needed - 11/12/2012 8:28:03 AM   
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An excellent book on Khalkin Gol.
I thoroughly recommend it.






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RE: That time of the year again - Books Needed - 11/12/2012 9:55:01 AM   
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RE: That time of the year again - Books Needed - 11/12/2012 12:09:31 PM   
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Status: offline 		Does your wife fully support your hobby or is this book list a kind of "no xmas gift hassle" deal?

If you enjoy full support, then Bergerud's "Fire in the Sky" and "Touched with Fire" should make the list.

But if there is need to raise your wife's "support levels" for your hobby, this may work: "All This Hell: U.S. Nurses Imprisoned by the Japanese" by Evelyn M. Monahan and Rosemary Neidel-Greenlee




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RE: That time of the year again - Books Needed - 11/12/2012 12:24:55 PM   
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RE: That time of the year again - Books Needed - 11/12/2012 12:33:10 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Xargun

Last year I asked for and got some good suggestions to start my book collection. I got Shattered Sword and The Rising Sun - thanks to your suggestions. Now the time has come again to add a couple more books - so what would you guys recommend ? I enjoyed them both. So fire away and I will give your suggestions to my wife for a couple more additions. Thanks alot.

Xargun

warspite1

Any preference for subject matter i.e. does it have to be Pacific War or what?


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RE: That time of the year again - Books Needed - 11/12/2012 1:22:25 PM   
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H. P. Willmott's three volume history
Empires in the Balance: Japanese and Allied Pacific Strategies to April 1942
Barrier and the Javelin: Japanese and Allied Strategies, February to June 1942
The War with Japan: The Period of Balance, May 1942-October 1943


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RE: That time of the year again - Books Needed - 11/12/2012 2:45:27 PM   
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RE: That time of the year again - Books Needed - 11/12/2012 4:53:36 PM   
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ORIGINAL: LargeSlowTarget

Does your wife fully support your hobby or is this book list a kind of "no xmas gift hassle" deal?

If you enjoy full support, then Bergerud's "Fire in the Sky" and "Touched with Fire" should make the list.

But if there is need to raise your wife's "support levels" for your hobby, this may work: "All This Hell: U.S. Nurses Imprisoned by the Japanese" by Evelyn M. Monahan and Rosemary Neidel-Greenlee


I wouldn't say she supports my hobby - but she definately has no problems with it. Have spent hundreds of hours (if not thousands) playing WitP (all versions) and catch very little flak for it.

Xargun

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RE: That time of the year again - Books Needed - 11/12/2012 4:56:29 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Empire101

Nomonhan, 1939 by Stuart Goldman.

An excellent book on Khalkin Gol.
I thoroughly recommend it.







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RE: That time of the year again - Books Needed - 11/12/2012 4:56:30 PM   
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[/quote]warspite1

Any preference for subject matter i.e. does it have to be Pacific War or what?

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I prefer Pacific War, but a good European book would be fine too. I read a book comparing Rommel, Patton and Monty and it was good - learned alot about them - like how Patton and Rommel died.. Did not know that.

Xargun

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RE: That time of the year again - Books Needed - 11/12/2012 5:21:43 PM   
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RE: That time of the year again - Books Needed - 11/12/2012 5:47:30 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Xargun


warspite1

Any preference for subject matter i.e. does it have to be Pacific War or what?



I prefer Pacific War, but a good European book would be fine too. I read a book comparing Rommel, Patton and Monty and it was good - learned alot about them - like how Patton and Rommel died.. Did not know that.

Xargun

warspite1

Books you haven't mentioned and that I've read in the last 2 years and will definitely read again (indeed Guadalcanal I have already started for the 2nd time):

Guadalcanal (Frank)
The German Invasion of Norway (Haarr)
The Battle For Norway (Haarr)
Ostkrieg (Fritz)
Carrier Glorious (Winston)
Nomonhan 1939 (Goldman)

Absolute quality books - very well written, well researched and very interesting subject matter.

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RE: That time of the year again - Books Needed - 11/12/2012 5:53:07 PM   
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Status: offline 		We were Soldiers One and Young by Hal Moore and Joe Galloway. Seriously, is there a finer work of military non fiction? I don't see how there can be. Written by one of the commanding officers who went to great lengths to interview the men of his command, their families, and some of the opposing officers. This is the finest work of nonfiction I've ever read. (That sound like hyperbole, but it isn't.)

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RE: That time of the year again - Books Needed - 11/12/2012 6:01:22 PM   
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We were Soldiers One and Young by Hal Moore and Joe Galloway. Seriously, is there a finer work of military non fiction? I don't see how there can be. Written by one of the commanding officers who went to great lengths to interview the men of his command, their families, and some of the opposing officers. This is the finest work of nonfiction I've ever read. (That sound like hyperbole, but it isn't.)


Read that a while ago when Gibson made the movie. I must admit I did get a bit lost with all the names, but I liked how he used their real names throughout the book.

Xargun

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RE: That time of the year again - Books Needed - 11/13/2012 6:53:10 AM   
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ORIGINAL: LargeSlowTarget

Does your wife fully support your hobby or is this book list a kind of "no xmas gift hassle" deal?

If you enjoy full support, then Bergerud's "Fire in the Sky" and "Touched with Fire" should make the list.

But if there is need to raise your wife's "support levels" for your hobby, this may work: "All This Hell: U.S. Nurses Imprisoned by the Japanese" by Evelyn M. Monahan and Rosemary Neidel-Greenlee


I wouldn't say she supports my hobby - but she definately has no problems with it. Have spent hundreds of hours (if not thousands) playing WitP (all versions) and catch very little flak for it.

Xargun



Lucky you. My wife can't stand video games at all - and I work for a PC games distributor...

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RE: That time of the year again - Books Needed - 11/13/2012 2:13:31 PM   
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Status: offline 		I feel this is an excellent companion to Frank's Guadalcanal and an underated book. The maps which for my money was better than Frank's Guadalcanal assisted in the visualzation and being a squid it really helped.

Bloody Ridge: The Battle That Saved Guadalcanal


Check the reviews on Amazon they are spot on.




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RE: That time of the year again - Books Needed - 11/13/2012 2:54:16 PM   
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RE: That time of the year again - Books Needed - 11/13/2012 10:27:33 PM   
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Status: offline 		Decision At Sea: The Naval Battle of Guadalcanal by Eric Hamel...had to recommend that one since it is the 70th Anniversary of the first night of battle today. The book is part of a trilogy: Starvation Island and The Carrier Battles being the other two.

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RE: That time of the year again - Books Needed - 11/14/2012 12:11:12 AM   
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ORIGINAL: SuluSea

I feel this is an excellent companion to Frank's Guadalcanal and an underated book. The maps which for my money was better than Frank's Guadalcanal assisted in the visualzation and being a squid it really helped.

Bloody Ridge: The Battle That Saved Guadalcanal


Check the reviews on Amazon they are spot on.



I wasn't asking but thanks for the suggestion! I just ordered a copy.

Bloody Ridge is a battle I've been fascinated with ever since I first heard of it. I've read Frank's book at least a couple times: great book all in all but its coverage of Bloody Ridge seemed incomplete somehow. I learned details I hadn't known before about Bloody Ridge but Frank's coverage of Tenaru, for example, seemed more complete even if he maybe spent fewer words on it. More maps would help for sure.

Hopefully your recommendation will fill in the pieces I've been wanting. If not I'll be asking you for my $11 back!

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RE: That time of the year again - Books Needed - 11/14/2012 12:14:39 AM   
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RE: That time of the year again - Books Needed - 11/14/2012 6:31:35 AM   
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This *snickers* book is a must read for ya hun.

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RE: That time of the year again - Books Needed - 11/14/2012 7:10:54 AM   
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This *snickers* book is a must read for ya hun.

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warspite1

Great - thanks Gräfin Zeppelin. Its on my Christmas list!! Got the DVD, now getting the book, life is good

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RE: That time of the year again - Books Needed - 11/14/2012 7:53:49 AM   
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Status: offline 		Am reading Hornfischer's "Neptune's Inferno" right now, which covers Guadalcanal. Everything he writes is gold. "Wages of Destruction" is an excellent treatise on the German economy, starting in the 20s, which really explains why Hitler made the decisions he did (essentially his economic choices made in 1933 made war inevitable). Also, just finished "Japanese Destroyer Captain" and "South Pacific Destroyer," which are quite good. The latter was written by the gunnery officer cum XO of the USS Maury.

The Korean War is a bit off topic, but a good mate of mine, Andy Salmon, wrote "To the Last Round," an excellent book on the UK 29th Infantry Brigade's stand on the Imjin River in April 1951. It reads like a novel. It helps that I've been to the battle site a few times and met some of the gentlemen in the book. Here it is at Amazon. The reviews are quite accurate.

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RE: That time of the year again - Books Needed - 11/14/2012 9:11:26 AM   
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"Fire in the Sky" for sure


x2.... rate it with Shattered Sword.

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RE: That time of the year again - Books Needed - 11/14/2012 8:26:30 PM   
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Status: offline 		So you got Toland's Rising Sun, i.e. the Pacific War from the Japanese point of view.

You might try John Costello, The Pacific War - same as above but from the British point of view...
or Ronald Spector, Eagle Against The Sun - same as above but from the American perspective (my current read).

2 books by Gordon W. Prange, At Dawn We Slept and Pearl Harbor - The Verdict of History are both about the prelude to the actual attack.

Clay Blair Jr., Silent Victory - about the U.S. submarine campaign...

Eric Bergerund, Touched With Fire - about the land war in the Solomon/New Guinea area. This book I'd highly recommend. It's less a history book per se but deals more with how they fought, the weapons and tactics both sides used, the terrain they had to fight in, the diseases, etc etc. It even mentiones the.... troubles the involved soldiers had with simple questions on how to... defecate in battlefield conditions. This book is a real eye-opener, especially for people - like me - without any military background. If you want to get some idea what it is like to fight in the jungle, get this book.

Richard B. Frank, Guadalcanal - in my opinion the best book about Guadalcanal, as it deals with all three aspects of the campaign, land, air, and naval warfare.

John Prados, Combined Fleet Decoded - as the title says, about the impact of code-breaking by the Allied side.



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RE: That time of the year again - Books Needed - 11/16/2012 11:47:37 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Xargun

Last year I asked for and got some good suggestions to start my book collection. I got Shattered Sword and The Rising Sun - thanks to your suggestions. Now the time has come again to add a couple more books - so what would you guys recommend ? I enjoyed them both. So fire away and I will give your suggestions to my wife for a couple more additions. Thanks alot.

Xargun




Books I've got for my kindle:

  • Pacific Crucible: War at Sea in the Pacific, 1941-1942 by Ian W. Toll
  • How They Won the War in the Pacific: Nimitz and His Admirals by Edwin P. Hoyt
  • Japan's War: The Great Pacific Conflict by Edwin P. Hoyt
  • The War in the Pacific: From Pearl Harbor to Tokyo Bay by Harry A. Gailey
  • Escort Carriers in the Pacific by Walter E. Skeldon
  • The Pacific War: The Strategy, Politics and Playwers that Won the War by William B. Hopkins
  • The Pacific War: From Pearl Harbor to Hiroshima editied by Daniel Marston
  • The Pacific War, 1931-1945: A Critical Perspective on Japan's Role in World War II by Saburo Ienaga
  • The Bloody Battle for Buribachi by RIchard Wheeler
  • Humble Heroes: How the USS Nashville CL43 Fought WWII by Steven George Bustin


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RE: That time of the year again - Books Needed - 11/18/2012 5:37:46 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Xargun

Last year I asked for and got some good suggestions to start my book collection. I got Shattered Sword and The Rising Sun - thanks to your suggestions. Now the time has come again to add a couple more books - so what would you guys recommend ? I enjoyed them both. So fire away and I will give your suggestions to my wife for a couple more additions. Thanks alot.

Xargun




Books I've got for my kindle:

  • Pacific Crucible: War at Sea in the Pacific, 1941-1942 by Ian W. Toll
  • How They Won the War in the Pacific: Nimitz and His Admirals by Edwin P. Hoyt
  • Japan's War: The Great Pacific Conflict by Edwin P. Hoyt
  • The War in the Pacific: From Pearl Harbor to Tokyo Bay by Harry A. Gailey
  • Escort Carriers in the Pacific by Walter E. Skeldon
  • The Pacific War: The Strategy, Politics and Playwers that Won the War by William B. Hopkins
  • The Pacific War: From Pearl Harbor to Hiroshima editied by Daniel Marston
  • The Pacific War, 1931-1945: A Critical Perspective on Japan's Role in World War II by Saburo Ienaga
  • The Bloody Battle for Buribachi by RIchard Wheeler
  • Humble Heroes: How the USS Nashville CL43 Fought WWII by Steven George Bustin



I'm a Hoyt fan too. I liked Blue Skies and Blood, Glory of the Solomons , The lonely ships:
the life and death of the U.S. Asiatic Fleet and The men of the Gambier Bay if you haven't read them.

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RE: That time of the year again - Books Needed - 11/18/2012 5:39:56 PM   
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Clay Blair Jr., Silent Victory - about the U.S. submarine campaign...



I may get this book for Christmas. I got 300 pages in before returning it to the library and found it deep, entertaining and informative.

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