Slitherine

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ORIGINAL: werwolf

"I'm respectfully asking" Matrix "to put forward sensible arguments" abouut the REAL date of the release.

England expects that every man will do his duty. Horatio Nelson October 1805

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ORIGINAL: werwolf

I said Matrix not Steve, and you said practically that they encountered probelms over the "last year". And before?.....
Last but not least are you sure I do not "understand the commercial relationships that exist"?

England expects that every man will do his duty. Horatio Nelson October 1805

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ORIGINAL: CrusssDaddy

"Everyone who does not own a software company, develop software, or work in software development business management, do not post to this forum -- your opinion is not valid." That is your argument. Is that really what you wish to stand by? Is that a position of integrity?

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ORIGINAL: CrusssDaddy

Extraneous, your post is not very helpful. It contradicts Steve's reply in places and cites posts dating back to 2006 as supposed proof of what is happening in 2012. Additionally, I am not interested in what Matrixster's marketing department has to say on any topic: they have **** the bed so thoroughly as to be considered unreliable commenting in any capacity.

Steve, the list of scenarios is more extensive than I had thought. That these are completed and tested is good news. Additionally, the list of included options and add-ons appears essentially complete, if these are indeed completed and currently working (aside from minor bugs, if any). I withdraw my complaints that those critical components are missing. A.I. appears as yet to be a dream.

Re: graphics and user's manual and pace of development, there's a lot of having cake and a lot of eating it too. When I make complaints about the relative lack of need for these things, I am greeted with choruses of "But what about the noobs? All the people who buy this who have never played WiF before need extensive tutorials and graphics and shiny things," as if Matrix is counting on widespread support from the computer war gaming community and broad appeal along with brisk sales. Then when I make complaints that development has taken unreasonably long and that Matrash has not allocated the proper amount of resources and support, the chorus changes to, "Oh but WiF is a specialty game, it's not like it's this big project with broad appeal that is going to sell like gangbusters and justify a proper development team." Well, which is it? I am actually in the glass-half-full camp that believes WiF has the capacity to shine in a marketplace loaded with crappy Grigsby-spam and dopey HOI games, but I am consistently told that I am wrong and the only road to development is one guy and a handful of part-time volunteers.

The only one that matters at this point dwarfs any concerns: your health. You are the only option for completion. There is no Plan B. And let's be real here: reports of your demise may be greatly exaggerated, but the trajectory of your health is not encouraging. Are you at an age where a vigorous rebound is more likely, or less likely? Your own stubbornness in accepting volunteer help with the coding/programming up until last year was very much at the root of the problem. So even if we grant that you can hang in to get a reduced MWiF out the door, the optimism required to believe you can also hang in to implement additional scenarios and add-ons and the A.I. is a bridge too far.

One other question: can the Edit Mode be retained for MWiF, allowing for DIY scenario building and flights of speculative fancy?

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ORIGINAL: werwolf

You are right is "not good advertising for Matrix"
And after all no one has not answered yet about a probable release date.

England expects that every man will do his duty. Horatio Nelson October 1805

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ORIGINAL: Extraneous

It's not all about you.

England expects that every man will do his duty. Horatio Nelson October 1805

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ORIGINAL: warspite1

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ORIGINAL: Extraneous

It's not all about you.

warspite1

Yes it is - he is a child. He wants it and he wants it now!

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ORIGINAL: werwolf

You are right is "not good advertising for Matrix"
And after all no one has not answered yet about a probable release date.

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ORIGINAL: CrusssDaddy

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ORIGINAL: warspite1

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ORIGINAL: Extraneous

It's not all about you.

warspite1

Yes it is - he is a child. He wants it and he wants it now!

Actually I might be a child, comparatively. Informal show of hands please: who here is an AARP member, or of an equivalent non-U.S. organization? Steve, Bo, I see your hands up. Raise them higher everyone else, so I can count...

England expects that every man will do his duty. Horatio Nelson October 1805

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ORIGINAL: CrusssDaddy

"How do they do it?!?!?!?" you lot must ask yourselves of these other developers and publishers who routinely team up to churn out new titles on a yearly basis. "It must be black magic!" How else to explain Paradox cranking out three HOIs, two Victorias, and a rabble of Dark Ages and Medieval-themed strategic titles since MWiF was announced.

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ORIGINAL: abj9562
With that said. The stress heaped upon Steve by all this can not be good for his health.
Therefore I am stepping back and asking all sides to step back and consider what we may have done.

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ORIGINAL: warspite1
He is a child. He wants it and he wants it now!

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ORIGINAL: yvesp

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ORIGINAL: abj9562
With that said. The stress heaped upon Steve by all this can not be good for his health.
Therefore I am stepping back and asking all sides to step back and consider what we may have done.

As for me, I have already stated that Steve's health is infinitely more important than the game.
So the game will get released when it's ready. No need to hurry!
Just keep reading the monthly reports and write positive (i.e. constructive) feedback.

But it's likely that the real source of stress is out of this thread, namely within his contract.
Who knows how he gets paid as long as the game is not finished ?

Still, no need to add to this here, I fully agree.

Yves

England expects that every man will do his duty. Horatio Nelson October 1805

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ORIGINAL: CrusssDaddy

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ORIGINAL: warspite1

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ORIGINAL: Extraneous

It's not all about you.

warspite1

Yes it is - he is a child. He wants it and he wants it now!

Actually I might be a child, comparatively. Informal show of hands please: who here is an AARP member, or of an equivalent non-U.S. organization? Steve, Bo, I see your hands up. Raise them higher everyone else, so I can count...

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ORIGINAL: abj9562

As another old man I too raise my hand.

Yes Bo has definitely turned over a new leaf and has boldly gone where no man .... Oops that senility thing again.
Our thanks to Bo for maintaining a calm and serene pace.
(smileys just for you Bo)

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ORIGINAL: Patton_71

As we all have shared the agony of this development process for this game, I feel that the only real ability for us to influence the powers that be is to use the power of the consumer: buy somewhere else.

I have stated in previous posts my conviction of not purchasing any products from Matrix until after MWIF is released. I will continue to do so, as this may be the only way left we have to open Matrix's eyes and get the job done.

I encourage others to do so, as this will (possibly) motivate Matrix. So far I have spent about $100 on gaming software and supplies ( I also do F2F boardgaming still), including Convoys in Flames. I know this may seem like a drop in a bucket, but if just 100 of us were to do the same, that would equal $10000 in lost Matrix revenue. Maybe that would get their attention. There are products that Matrix has that I am definitely interested in. But, I will not consider a purchase any of those titles until after MWIF is released, maybe.

So please, other readers of the forum, let Matrix know that you will take your dollars, pounds, yen, kroner, etc. and spend them elsewhere, and let them know this. Hopefully, matrix will see that their actions (or lack thereof) here are not only costing them business, but helping the competition.

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ORIGINAL: warspite1


On hearing of Steve's continued health concerns, any normal human being would react the way the Beta testers and the well wishers generally on the forum have reacted; with a bit of compassion, concern for Steve, and with a bit of perspective - MWIF is a GAME.

Those that can't see that? Well, best left unsaid.

Although Steve monitors every thread, hopefully on seeing the nonsense stirred up by that inadequate individual, he will have switched off and gone and done something more useful - like recuperate.

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ORIGINAL: Empire101

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ORIGINAL: warspite1


On hearing of Steve's continued health concerns, any normal human being would react the way the Beta testers and the well wishers generally on the forum have reacted; with a bit of compassion, concern for Steve, and with a bit of perspective - MWIF is a GAME.

Those that can't see that? Well, best left unsaid.

Although Steve monitors every thread, hopefully on seeing the nonsense stirred up by that inadequate individual, he will have switched off and gone and done something more useful - like recuperate.

+1 Mr.W

I have'nt visited this Forum for a couple of weeks, because of Real Life, CTGW, WitP AE etc and I am surprised at some of the vitriolic posts. ( yes you know who you are ).

As Warspite and others have pointed out many times, MWiF will be the greatest game when it is completed, but it is just that; A GAME.

Gentleman, may I remind you all, certain members need to have the 'Green Button' employed against them to retain your humour and your sense of perspective.

Some posters do not warrant a reply, their posts are just to inflame others under the pretence of 'my voice must be heard', or they are seriously misinformed.

Use your green button. You know it makes sense.

And Steve...best wishes again. I hope your health is improving.