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RE: The IKEA effect - 2/18/2013 1:57:35 AM   
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RE: The IKEA effect - 2/18/2013 1:58:39 AM   
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No base required.

Prep points uncertain, but seem to go with the highest %, then prorated down to reflect only the percentage that is prepping for that target.



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RE: The IKEA effect - 2/18/2013 2:01:30 AM   
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RE: The IKEA effect - 2/18/2013 2:12:14 AM   
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Must have same HQ to combine.

No base required.

Prep points uncertain, but seem to go with the highest %, then prorated down to reflect only the percentage that is prepping for that target.





Sensibile rule. I guess I could reattach I Amphib Corps directly to Pacific Ocean Areas and runite 2nd Marine with fewer points that way.

This is complicated. I am pretty sure Lucy could not have done this. Maybe Homo ergaster but I sure wouldn't one of those knuckleheads sitting on my leather office chair in his loincloth.

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RE: The IKEA effect - 2/18/2013 2:34:36 AM   
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Must have same HQ to combine.

No base required.

Prep points uncertain, but seem to go with the highest %, then prorated down to reflect only the percentage that is prepping for that target.





Sensibile rule. I guess I could reattach I Amphib Corps directly to Pacific Ocean Areas and runite 2nd Marine with fewer points that way.

This is complicated. I am pretty sure Lucy could not have done this. Maybe Homo ergaster but I sure wouldn't one of those knuckleheads sitting on my leather office chair in his loincloth.

Huh? No - not ultimately reporting to the same HQ; directly reporting to the same HQ.

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RE: The IKEA effect - 2/18/2013 4:52:28 AM   
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No, what I meant was:

1) Reattach I US Ampib Corps to Pacifc

2) Reattach 6th Marine and Engr Regt to 1st US Amphib now WITHIN THE SAME COMMAND...thusly saving PP's

3) Reform the division (after they are physically united)

Would that not work?

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RE: The IKEA effect - 2/18/2013 5:19:30 AM   
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RE: The IKEA effect - 2/18/2013 6:14:18 AM   
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RE: The IKEA effect - 2/18/2013 11:41:24 AM   
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RE: The IKEA effect - 2/18/2013 11:43:50 AM   
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RE: The IKEA effect - 2/18/2013 11:44:39 AM   
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RE: The IKEA effect - 2/18/2013 11:52:52 AM   
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RE: The IKEA effect - 2/18/2013 12:01:06 PM   
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Me going to slops for issue of tropical kit:

Wren behind counter: What size trousers?
Me: (being slim trim and triffic): 34 inside leg and 34 in waist please.
Wren: You can have 34in waist and 30in inside leg or 34inside leg and 42in waist, what'll it be?

I took the 42in waist and had to pay the chinky sew-sew on board to take them apart and re-stitch them. For reasons I don't understand he laso sold boxer shorts in the most hideous pailsey patterns. I think the worst I bought were lime-green and pink.

We had a chink dhoby on board too who cleaned shirts, trousers and overall (uniform and civvy) but of course they charged for it. They wouldn't do socks or underpants though, you had to wash and dry them yourself.

Two chinese laundrymen were killed in the Falklands.

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RE: The IKEA effect - 2/18/2013 1:30:20 PM   
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Sure. I mean no. 'Would that not work' = no. Yes, that would work. How much wood would a wood chuck chuck if a wood chuck could chuck wood?



OK, that fixes it. 2nd Marine Div can land as regiments. They can have a reunion when the war is over.

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RE: The IKEA effect - 2/18/2013 1:32:42 PM   
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Which reminds me of my deployment out to the Fez in 1980.

Me going to slops for issue of tropical kit:

Wren behind counter: What size trousers?
Me: (being slim trim and triffic): 34 inside leg and 34 in waist please.
Wren: You can have 34in waist and 30in inside leg or 34inside leg and 42in waist, what'll it be?

I took the 42in waist and had to pay the chinky sew-sew on board to take them apart and re-stitch them. For reasons I don't understand he laso sold boxer shorts in the most hideous pailsey patterns. I think the worst I bought were lime-green and pink.

We had a chink dhoby on board too who cleaned shirts, trousers and overall (uniform and civvy) but of course they charged for it. They wouldn't do socks or underpants though, you had to wash and dry them yourself.

Two chinese laundrymen were killed in the Falklands.



You can't say "chinky sew sew". There are certain standards to uphold.

I think they prefer "chinaman sew sew".

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RE: The IKEA effect - 2/18/2013 1:34:03 PM   
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Unpacking bombs, looks like it's stand easy.








Maybe I had a rudimentary understanding of how the militray works but it almost seems the officers aren't doing any of the work.

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RE: The IKEA effect - 2/18/2013 1:38:15 PM   
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Fine examples of the British matelot somewhere in the Far Flung






Guy middle center has evidently been stealing the cheesy-hammy-eggs rations from some of the other fellows. Is that their ID tags under their armpits in back??? Perhaps they should have given an "introduction to anatomy" course before the fire drill.

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RE: The IKEA effect - 2/18/2013 1:43:12 PM   
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To quote FAM, "Madre de Dios!"








See, I see what's going on here. Whoever printed this really wanted to save Malta but he figured he would get more action if he added England. It's called "cloud praying".

You would have to say it worked. The Iteys had a plan to invade Malta with airborne troops. Maybe the Pope got to them.

Did Uncle Oscar give that to you?

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RE: The IKEA effect - 2/18/2013 1:44:48 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Itdepends

If you're recombining them- pick what you want them to be prepped for (which of the three regiments) and change the target for the other units to your choice. Under the more recent versions of the beta the units will retain some prep points towards their new target and you'll lose less when recombining them.



Thanks.

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RE: The IKEA effect - 2/18/2013 1:55:57 PM   
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Which reminds me of my deployment out to the Fez in 1980.

Me going to slops for issue of tropical kit:

Wren behind counter: What size trousers?
Me: (being slim trim and triffic): 34 inside leg and 34 in waist please.
Wren: You can have 34in waist and 30in inside leg or 34inside leg and 42in waist, what'll it be?

I took the 42in waist and had to pay the chinky sew-sew on board to take them apart and re-stitch them. For reasons I don't understand he laso sold boxer shorts in the most hideous pailsey patterns. I think the worst I bought were lime-green and pink.

We had a chink dhoby on board too who cleaned shirts, trousers and overall (uniform and civvy) but of course they charged for it. They wouldn't do socks or underpants though, you had to wash and dry them yourself.

Two chinese laundrymen were killed in the Falklands.



You can't say "chinky sew sew". There are certain standards to uphold.

I think they prefer "chinaman sew sew".


"Ex-Arried RYB sew-sew."

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RE: The IKEA effect - 2/18/2013 2:06:22 PM   
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Elvia didn't speak a word of Engrish and my mom can't even say "chile relleno". She can say "chile"..sort of..."chill-lee" like a Texan but she can't say "relleno". Funniest damn thing.

Anyway, we go over there once and the 30 year old drapes have been washed and they look pretty damn good. We complement her.

Us: Wow, how did you do that?

Madre de FAM: Elvia helped me.

Us: How did you explain it to her?

Madre de FAM: Oh, easy. I went over to the drapes and moved my hands like this <scrubbing motion> and said "washy-washy"

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RE: The IKEA effect - 2/18/2013 2:22:37 PM   
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Status: offline 		OK, sorry to shift gears but here is a strategy question. JJ risks 8-10 AK's with NO escort and no LRCAP landing a 600 strong unit at Naga. Might be a recon unit with the 10 AFV's. Anyway, this seems rather desperate to count on a 600 strong garrison for the best port in Southern Luzon.

What learnings can be drawn from this. I have my own idea.





EDIT: I left the "f" out of "shift"

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RE: The IKEA effect - 2/18/2013 2:28:46 PM   
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To quote FAM, "Madre de Dios!"








See, I see what's going on here. Whoever printed this really wanted to save Malta but he figured he would get more action if he added England. It's called "cloud praying".

You would have to say it worked. The Iteys had a plan to invade Malta with airborne troops. Maybe the Pope got to them.

Did Uncle Oscar give that to you?

I dont know about Blighty, ALSP, but over here a "Consolation Prize" is considered a sign of being a loser. Shouldn't they have commissioned prayer cards to the "Mother of All Aces", or "Mother of Accurate Ack-Ack", or something along those lines?

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RE: The IKEA effect - 2/18/2013 2:31:06 PM   
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OK, sorry to shift gears but here is a strategy question. JJ risks 8-10 AK's with NO escort and no LRCAP landing a 600 strong unit at Naga. Might be a recon unit with the 10 AFV's. Anyway, this seems rather desperate to count on a 600 strong garrison for the best port in Southern Luzon.

What learnings can be drawn from this. I have my own idea.

Maybe there are more units coming down to Naga overland that he plans to lift to Mindanao?

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RE: The IKEA effect - 2/18/2013 2:32:46 PM   
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Maybe I had a rudimentary understanding of how the militray works but it almost seems the officers aren't doing any of the work.


Nope, sounds like you have a very firm grasp.

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RE: The IKEA effect - 2/18/2013 2:37:56 PM   
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Did Uncle Oscar give that to you?


No but he did get a papal blessing on my marriage to the mem-sahib. Even if I was divorced and she was single mum/mom.

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RE: The IKEA effect - 2/18/2013 2:44:02 PM   
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Shouldn't they have commissioned prayer cards to the "Mother of All Aces", or "Mother of Accurate Ack-Ack", or something along those lines?


I guess when you live in the most bombed place on earth you need all the consoling you can get.

The last air raid over Malta occurred on 20 July 1943. It was the 3,340th alert since 11 June 1940 and 1300 civilians killed.

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RE: The IKEA effect - 2/18/2013 2:55:25 PM   
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Did Uncle Oscar give that to you?


No but he did get a papal blessing on my marriage to the mem-sahib. Even if I was divorced and she was single mum/mom.



I think they are still jumpy about the Henry VIII thing so there is a bit more flexibility.

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RE: The IKEA effect - 2/18/2013 2:57:35 PM   
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OK, sorry to shift gears but here is a strategy question. JJ risks 8-10 AK's with NO escort and no LRCAP landing a 600 strong unit at Naga. Might be a recon unit with the 10 AFV's. Anyway, this seems rather desperate to count on a 600 strong garrison for the best port in Southern Luzon.

What learnings can be drawn from this. I have my own idea.

Maybe there are more units coming down to Naga overland that he plans to lift to Mindanao?



I just notice the unit at Naga in moving NW. I conclude they don't have enough **** on Luzon. Maybe we should do a snap landing in SE Luzon.

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RE: The IKEA effect - 2/18/2013 3:00:02 PM   
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