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Empire Deluxe and The perfect General enhanced editions - 12/28/2002 3:22:12 PM   
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Status: offline 		Mark Kinkead have bought the copyrights and source codes for those two old but classical games (I'm still playing the Windows version of Empire Deluxe) that were bestsellers in the beginning of the 90's.
He plans to realise for both an "ancient version", and an "enhanced" one; making both games playable on the modern platforms.
More information available on his site:

http://killerbeesoftware.com

To can play TPG2 with Windows XP is a real dream...

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- 12/28/2002 3:32:09 PM   
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how things are going?



sounds interesting.

i played empire back in amiga days..

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- 12/28/2002 3:41:55 PM   
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Status: offline 		[QUOTE]Originally posted by Frank W.
[B]hi scimitar

how things are going?



sounds interesting.

i played empire back in amiga days.. [/B][/QUOTE]

Hello Frank,

All is OK for me; hope it's the same for you!

I also played Empire originally on my Amiga; it was the first game I've found so addictive... Hopefully the Windows PC version is still running under XP! It's a game I'm still playing PBEM.
I also played TPG on my Amiga; and later bought TPII for my 486DX2/66. I was really disappointed when I discovered that the game didn't run on later, more powerful machines...

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- 12/28/2002 8:33:48 PM   
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Status: offline 		I remember "the Perfect General", it looked ok.

It had the user friendly basic game look that made Panzer General user friendly for the average gamer.

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- 12/28/2002 10:36:43 PM   
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Status: offline 		Yes Les, TPG was a basic tanks game (no comparrison with SPWAW) but it was funny and quick to play. It was realised long before the first Steel Panthers...

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- 12/28/2002 11:09:16 PM   
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Status: offline 		Well I like to play the occasional "basic" looking game occasionally. There is after all life outside of ASL.

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- 12/28/2002 11:10:56 PM   
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[B]Well I like to play the occasional "basic" looking game occasionally. There is after all life outside of ASL. [/B][/QUOTE]

You're right, Les!:D

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Re: Empire Deluxe and The perfect General enhanced edit... - 12/29/2002 1:06:22 AM   
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Status: offline 		[QUOTE]Originally posted by scimitar
[B]He plans to realise for both an "ancient version", ...[/B][/QUOTE] Now that sounds interesting. I will be looking for this.

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- 12/31/2002 12:03:29 AM   
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Status: offline 		I loved TPG. I can't wait to see it work in Windows. SPWAW is to chess, as TPG is to checkers. Completely different games but both fun in their own way. Sometimes you just want a simple game of checkers.

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- 12/31/2002 3:18:43 AM   
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Status: offline 		[QUOTE]Originally posted by rbrunsman
[B]I loved TPG. I can't wait to see it work in Windows. SPWAW is to chess, as TPG is to checkers. Completely different games but both fun in their own way. Sometimes you just want a simple game of checkers. [/B][/QUOTE]

It's exactly my opinion!:)

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- 12/31/2002 4:45:27 AM   
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Status: offline 		[QUOTE]Originally posted by scimitar
[B]It's exactly my opinion!:) [/B][/QUOTE]

Thanks for posting the notice about this. I've already signed up for email notification for when it is ready for sale. Can't wait!:D

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- 12/31/2002 5:22:44 AM   
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Status: offline 		There is always room for a straight forward simple wargame eh.

But the guy is thinking in terms of 25-30 bucks.

I think he better set the ceiling at 10 or accept that no one will be sufficiently interested.

After all I like simple, but I am not that interested in simple.

35 bucks, I might as well buy a real game.

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- 12/31/2002 10:23:20 AM   
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Status: offline 		[QUOTE]Originally posted by Les the Sarge 9-1
[B]There is always room for a straight forward simple wargame eh.

But the guy is thinking in terms of 25-30 bucks.

I think he better set the ceiling at 10 or accept that no one will be sufficiently interested.

After all I like simple, but I am not that interested in simple.

35 bucks, I might as well buy a real game. [/B][/QUOTE]

Since these games a faithful "cult" following, I think the pricing makes sense. People who loved the DOS version and still play them (and I hear many people do still play them both) would be pretty happy to fork over 30 bucks for an updated version of their favorite game. That's the taget audience.

But for someone like me, who has never played them, they won't generate much interest. Different strokes for different folks.

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- 12/31/2002 12:27:22 PM   
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I wished them well on their venture (it was genuine).

But I also mentioned, I would not spend in excess of 10 bucks to get it.

Yesterdays news is yesterdays news. About all I would get out of the game, is a small face lift and XP capable.

Now frankly an approx. 10 year old game, that only offers a face lift and capacity to play on XP, is not worth 30 bucks to me.

30 bucks will get me a modern game like Strategic Command, or a Mega Campaign for Steel Panthers.
It will also buy me any of oodles of aftermarket games with a substantial amount more polish that The Perfect General offers.

I am serious when I say I like some old fashioned games. I love Galaga for instance. But then again it was also a free download.

I would myself not produce a revamped The Perfect General unless I was doing it for fun. I would offer it for a humble price merely to recoup a few bucks.
I certainly would not release it in the manner of a serious competitive product. It has no realistic chance.

But the owner intends to release it as a serious product all the same.

Recently on reflection, I have concluded that the option to play board games via a program called Hexwar is ludicruous. They expect to achieve a 12 dollar (approx.) monthly fee so that you can play a board game online.

Some ideas are good, some are not.

Think about it, Hexwar is anticipating your willingness to ship out more than 100 dollars a year to play board games online (maybe, because we all know how regular online gaming can be).

100 bucks so I can play board games, I don't think so. I would rather invest the effort to get a local to play in person, and spend the 100 bucks on a new game (board or computer version).

It's the same with the Perfect General. Given the choice of a barely modified old dos game, or a brand new game, I am picking the brand new game.

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