parusski
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ORIGINAL: Dragoon
Of course I'm going to support PzC on Greenlight even when I think it's beneath you. I have no doubt you will be Greenlight fast. Just don't sell yourself short. Steam is about quick cash, but I don't need to tell you strategy games tend to sell steady. Rather than COD like games that sell high first and then fall flat. I recommend to avoid pimping yourself out on the first Steam sale.
May I recommend that you create a Official Steam group soon for Panzer Corps and or Slitherine Games. Fill it out with all kind of information about your studio, person behind it, website, importand links and community manager contacts. If you do it, than do it right. I checked out the 3 Steam profiles of the entities that created the PzC Greenlight entry and all profiles are just blank. This doesn't look very professional. If the game get greenlight most Steam user will communicate to you via Steam forums and never come here or to the Slitherine forums. So give VPaulus an extra paycheck because we will have a field day answering question, posting stickies for FAQ, common issues, etc. . :)
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ORIGINAL: parusski
Dear Lord, I never do understand the anti-Steam crowd. I have been using Steam for years and I have never had a problem Just what is your problem with steam??
I'm a heavy Steam user. I got hundredths of games on Steam but I amm not a fan of Steam either. The internet is unreliable and so is every service that relies on it. The requirement to have internet connection to install games and from time to time update subscriptions otherwise games start to fail in offline mode is annoying. I hate if my ability to use things depends on others. And god have mercy on you if you don't have a broadband connection. I found out on a boot that even in offline mode you need go eventually online to verify your subscription license or the games fail to start. Let me tell you maritime satellite internet does not come cheap or fast for this matter. Steam really need a lite mode for this cases and a toggle to turn off automatic updates for all games at once.
But the biggest issue for me is online-DRM. I grew up in a time where you bought a game at the store in a box and you owned it. Of course the game itself was still a license but the physical goods are yours forever.
If I want to play it, I just take out the box, install the game and there I go. No internet required, no login, no subscriptions, no authorization, no services, no install limits. Just play and have fun. Nowadays I feel patronized by all this online services as if it's a privilege to give them my money.
All this restriction that came with online DRM I lost respect for games. I no longer feel I own them, and thus I no longer willing to pay full price. Which is funny because I'm no longer a teenager or kid. The times where I was struggling for money are long gone and yet I got stingy buying games online.
Today I think most games are not worth more than 20 bucks, especially if they require account binding like Steamwork games. I completely avoid games with install limits or single player games with permanent online requirement. I only buy titles on sales or discounts. There are only a very few exceptions to this like Matrix games, a few Paradox titles and Skyrim.
The twist is I spend the last year more money on Kickstarter games than I would ever pay for a major publisher title. In average I invested 120 bucks per project that I backed and I am now at 8 projects. I can't explain it, but it feels so easy and right to give them my money and I have no regrets about it.
So in conclusion Steam is good by saving me money with all it sales( daily deals, midweek sale, weekend sale, week long sale, spring sale, summer sale, black Friday sale, Christmas sale...), bad side is I lost respect for games. I no longer buy games at launch day instead I wait usually 6 month or longer if buy them at all. Exceptions prove the rule. WITP-AE :D
Well! You sure shut me down. Very cogent and persuasive argument Dragoon.
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