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RE: How could anything Sorong... be so right? - 3/14/2013 10:31:48 PM   
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*****Tech Supprt at HP*****

Me: The printer won't print
HP Plonker: Is it plugged in at the outlet?
Me: I'm third line support, can we cut to the techie bit please?
HP Plonker: Is it plugged in at the outlet?



Oh, THAT'S what those guys are called.

....after some debate the call is transfered...


"HEL-lo <very brief non-native Anglophone pause> MY name EES CHREES-tee-un. how MAY I help you?

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RE: How could anything Sorong... be so right? - 3/15/2013 2:25:39 AM   
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*****Tech Supprt at HP*****

Me: The printer won't print
HP Plonker: Is it plugged in at the outlet?
Me: I'm third line support, can we cut to the techie bit please?
HP Plonker: Is it plugged in at the outlet?



Oh, THAT'S what those guys are called.

....after some debate the call is transfered...


"HEL-lo <very brief non-native Anglophone pause> MY name EES CHREES-tee-un. how MAY I help you?



Ran into a new one today

Unsolicited call: "Hello, my name is Pahnda (that's really what he said). I work for your Internet Service Provider (note generic, name not supplied). Our server is sending messages that you have a virus. Our Virus Cleaner needs to see your computer immediately. Can I have your credit card number so we can schedule the visit as soon as possible".

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RE: How could anything Sorong... be so right? - 3/15/2013 1:22:38 PM   
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The naughty end of a 22,000lb Grand Slam bomb:






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RE: How could anything Sorong... be so right? - 3/15/2013 1:25:39 PM   
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A Mossie




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RE: How could anything Sorong... be so right? - 3/15/2013 1:27:03 PM   
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The interior of a DC3




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RE: How could anything Sorong... be so right? - 3/15/2013 2:36:04 PM   
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The interior of a DC3






Nice of them to put those big community urinals in like that but where were they supposed to sit?

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RE: How could anything Sorong... be so right? - 3/15/2013 2:38:05 PM   
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The naughty end of a 22,000lb Grand Slam bomb:








It almost looks like the front end is armored. Was it designed to penetrate before going off?

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RE: How could anything Sorong... be so right? - 3/15/2013 3:41:21 PM   
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Another day of invasion interruptis. I'm not sure I have the strength.


So...I'm sitting in my office yesterday trying to do my 214 electronic tasks...and they are STILL going up. New tasks appear faster than I can do them. A yong guy with a clipboard is going around the suite looking in the rooms. I assume he is one of the IT hardware guys so I try to get him to fix something....


Earnest young man: Oh no, I'm with the "Zero Waste" project. I see you have two bins, one standard and one recycle.

Me: Well, actually, this one is for shredding.

Earnest young man: Oh no, we recycle it after we shred it?

Me: Seems like a lot of work.

Earnest young man: Well zero waste, you know. <said with genuine enthusiasm>

Me: <I am tempted to check the back of his neck and see if he has a data port> So let me get this straight. The ZERO WASTE project has you drive around to the various sites and inventory the trash cans?

Earnest young man: We call them "bins" now.

Me: Ah, how progressive!



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RE: How could anything Sorong... be so right? - 3/15/2013 3:49:20 PM   
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Was it designed to penetrate before going off?


Yep.

the Grand Slam would reach near-supersonic speed, approaching 320 m/s, and penetrate deep underground, with the explosion causing a camouflet (cavern) and shifting the ground to undermine a target's foundation.

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RE: How could anything Sorong... be so right? - 3/15/2013 3:55:44 PM   
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Me: <I am tempted to check the back of his neck and see if he has a data port> So let me get this straight. The ZERO WASTE project has you drive around to the various sites and inventory the trash cans?


Thats like Al Gore flying around the world in a G5 touting the virtures of reducing our carbon footprint, and that we are all going to die of global warming .. Its the intent not the results that are important ..

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RE: How could anything Sorong... be so right? - 3/15/2013 5:32:10 PM   
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Me: <I am tempted to check the back of his neck and see if he has a data port> So let me get this straight. The ZERO WASTE project has you drive around to the various sites and inventory the trash cans?


Thats like Al Gore flying around the world in a G5 touting the virtures of reducing our carbon footprint, and that we are all going to die of global warming .. Its the intent not the results that are important ..


That is quite an apt analogy....<gets idea>

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RE: How could anything Sorong... be so right? - 3/15/2013 6:15:22 PM   
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Was it designed to penetrate before going off?


Yep.

the Grand Slam would reach near-supersonic speed, approaching 320 m/s, and penetrate deep underground, with the explosion causing a camouflet (cavern) and shifting the ground to undermine a target's foundation.

You used 'camouflet' in a sentence!

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RE: How could anything Sorong... be so right? - 3/15/2013 8:18:07 PM   
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They're Knights of the Round Table.
They dance whene'er they're able.
They do routines and chorus scenes
With footwork impeccable.
They use words like camouflet.
They drink gin, whiskey and sherry I bet.

They're Knights of the Round Table.
They're forces are formidable,
But many times they're given rhymes
That are quite unsingable.


In war they're tough and able,
Quite indefatigable.
Between our quests we sequin vests and impersonate Clark Gable.
It's a busy life when you use the word camouflet

I have to push the pram a lot.


(with apologies to talented folks and all due notice of misused copyrighted material...)

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RE: How could anything Sorong... be so right? - 3/15/2013 8:40:38 PM   
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quote:

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Was it designed to penetrate before going off?


Yep.

the Grand Slam would reach near-supersonic speed, approaching 320 m/s, and penetrate deep underground, with the explosion causing a camouflet (cavern) and shifting the ground to undermine a target's foundation.

You used 'camouflet' in a sentence!


I tried using it to clean the dishes but that didn't work.

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RE: How could anything Sorong... be so right? - 3/15/2013 9:12:54 PM   
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Was it designed to penetrate before going off?


Yep.

the Grand Slam would reach near-supersonic speed, approaching 320 m/s, and penetrate deep underground, with the explosion causing a camouflet (cavern) and shifting the ground to undermine a target's foundation.

You used 'camouflet' in a sentence!


That is a lot better than the Cap using it in a sentinece "Yes were are going to create a small camouflet under your child's skin" ..

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RE: How could anything Sorong... be so right? - 3/15/2013 9:20:14 PM   
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Anyone using a word like "camouflet" is just blowing smoke.

Here is the more important question. Can you create a camouflet with a trebouchet?

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RE: How could anything Sorong... be so right? - 3/15/2013 10:57:27 PM   
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Anyone using a word like "camouflet" is just blowing smoke.

Here is the more important question. Can you create a camouflet with a trebouchet?

And if you camouflet a trebouchet, does that mean it's hidden from view?

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RE: How could anything Sorong... be so right? - 3/15/2013 11:08:16 PM   
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Anyone using a word like "camouflet" is just blowing smoke.

Here is the more important question. Can you create a camouflet with a trebouchet?

And if you camouflet a trebouchet, does that mean it's hidden from view?


Only if you create the camouflet with a trebouchet slinging a big wooden trojan rabbitt ....

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RE: How could anything Sorong... be so right? - 3/16/2013 1:26:00 AM   
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You can't reach supersonic speed with a trebouchet, unless you attach a rocket assist package to the projectile. Then it might be possible

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RE: How could anything Sorong... be so right? - 3/16/2013 3:42:51 PM   
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The things you can learn on this forum are amazing!

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RE: How could anything Sorong... be so right? - 3/16/2013 3:56:13 PM   
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You can't reach supersonic speed with a trebouchet, unless you attach a rocket assist package to the projectile. Then it might be possible

What if you built a trebouchet that was large enough? It could be disassembled and air transported by swallows.

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RE: How could anything Sorong... be so right? - 3/16/2013 4:02:36 PM   
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OK, I'll bite. European Swallows?


I'm thinking an invasion of Northern Luzon is so early March 1943(c)




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RE: How could anything Sorong... be so right? - 3/16/2013 4:06:42 PM   
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Of course, first we have to get a turn back. How much can you overbuild a nominal level 4 airfield?

Pretend I didnt read the manual.

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RE: How could anything Sorong... be so right? - 3/16/2013 4:14:56 PM   
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One thing for sure. An attack on Miyako-jima would pretty much stop the annoying attacks on San Jose.

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RE: How could anything Sorong... be so right? - 3/16/2013 4:17:19 PM   
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Of course, first we have to get a turn back. How much can you overbuild a nominal level 4 airfield?

Pretend I didnt read the manual.


A 0(4) airfield can be built up to a 7(4) or three levels higher than the figure in the paren's (X) .. level 7 airfields are magical because that is what is needed to support the B-29's if this game gets that far [Given North PI is under assault ] Not quite as Magical as level 9 airfields but something of note as you count hexes to the Home Islands ..

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RE: How could anything Sorong... be so right? - 3/16/2013 4:20:00 PM   
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Both airfield and port can be over-built by 3 levels (so a 4 could build to a 7). Construction gets progressively more difficult (takes more engineer-time and therefore supplies) as a port or airfield gets larger. IIRC there is another parameter that appears in the editor (scenario files) concerning the difficulty of building at the site in question. Presumably (but I don't know) the terrain affects the difficulty of building, and the 'difficulty' parameter influences the effort required to build. AFAIK that difficulty parameter is not displayed in-game.

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RE: How could anything Sorong... be so right? - 3/16/2013 4:27:52 PM   
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I suspect we will never reach April '44 and will never see a B-29

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RE: How could anything Sorong... be so right? - 3/16/2013 4:34:51 PM   
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Miyako-jima is clear terrain with unlimited stacking.

Ishigaki is "Wd", whatever that means.

Maybe "Watery Deathrap" or "Walt Disney (Resort)"

Note that I found the "terrain" key on my own.

Wonder what they have at Taihoku on NE Formosa.

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RE: How could anything Sorong... be so right? - 3/16/2013 4:41:12 PM   
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Both airfield and port can be over-built by 3 levels (so a 4 could build to a 7). Construction gets progressively more difficult (takes more engineer-time and therefore supplies) as a port or airfield gets larger. IIRC there is another parameter that appears in the editor (scenario files) concerning the difficulty of building at the site in question. Presumably (but I don't know) the terrain affects the difficulty of building, and the 'difficulty' parameter influences the effort required to build. AFAIK that difficulty parameter is not displayed in-game.


Interesting! I checked The scenario editor and I did not see any parameters on any of the locations besides where troops begin the game for a particular scenario ...Maybe this information is a part of the 'pwhex' file? I used an old editor and did not find any parameters indicating "difficulty of build" .. I would assume terrain alters the code somehow but that would be speculating ..

Anyway the Allies get those huge engineering units and they build stuff like lightning anyway

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RE: How could anything Sorong... be so right? - 3/16/2013 5:02:28 PM   
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OK I looked it up in the Sceanrio 2 starting OOB (first time I ever looked at the Japanese side).

Ishigaki and Taihoku have static fortresses. The one at Taihoku has some pretty nasty 28 cm guns.

Maybe just Batan Is. (existing level 2) then Iriomote and Miyako-jima.

We would need something of level 5 or greater to suppress the airfields on Formosa (perhaps Altimonan on Luzon)

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