Charles22
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Joined: 5/17/2000 From: Dallas, Texas, USA Status: offline
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DELTA32: Come on dude, let's not get snippy. Your point is being lost on your tone. Let the stats tell the story. From what I'm thinking, either the Tiger and KTiger are not as accurate as they should be, or the Shermans have too many APCRs as compared to what the guys got in the field (Why Tigers aren't experiencing something close to a 5-to-1 kill ratio to Shermans). As well, other nations calling some of their stuff 'Ronsons' doesn't detract from that such a title stuck to one tank 'famously' in WWII (not a point you made, but someone else). If there are other Ronsons out there, then make them Ronsons too, who cares? Do we want pampered tanks or accurate reflection? If the Tiger, PZIV, Panther, Matilda II, or whatever, were Ronsons just as bad as the Shermans, then make them Ronsons too, but the American troops didn't call them that for no reason, they knew there was other American equipment that didn't brew up like that (it probably was just the Shermans that had the 75L38 gun).
I recall on FPrados site that they talked about either the Tiger or KTiger hitting up to 2000m on the second if not the first round. If giving Tigers special crews is what it takes or upping their accuracy, then let's do it. They are pretty good nonetheless, but if they were so good as to be unfair to T34s and Shermans, then so be it.
Of course the point made about availability of Tigers, in order to reflect combat accurately, is a major point to consider, but as things are, nobody gives anything close to the protection the Germans gave these machines, I suspect, and on the other hand they don't seem to be accurate enough. Also, a point was made earlier about the KTiger superstructure, that being that the side is sloped at 25 degrees, not zero. See top picture: http://www.fprado.com/armorsite/tiger2_2.htm and if this works, here's that picture
BTW, as far as our original complaint went, something about the Sherman taking way too many hits to destroy, I would also beg to know 'where' these hits were being laid, and also what model. The M4E8A3 SHOULD be taking multiple hits, more than likely. The base Sherman will not take the same amount and survive. If the German gun penetrates at +50, it'll do a lot more damage than one that's only a +10 hit.
[This message has been edited by Charles22 (edited February 17, 2001).]
[This message has been edited by Charles22 (edited February 17, 2001).]
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