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Matrix, a suggestion for the "Ships Sunk" screen - 1/6/2003 11:55:29 AM

Feinder

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If you add a "Date Sunk" to the intel screen that lists each ship that has been sunk, I think that would add a bit the enjoyment of the game; in same way that the trivial knowledge of how many kills each pilot has is actually gratifying (*grin*).

You already have the type of weapon that killed the ship (and that's amusing more than anything else), but a column that gives the date the ship was sunk (or scuttled) would be nice.

I check that ships sunk screen every turn. Seeing the date sunk of each ship (and then being able to sort by it), gives you an idea of when the major battles were.

Oh, and while I'm suggesting, it would also be useful to list the class of the ship that was sunk beside the name of the actual ship.

Regards,
-F-

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- 1/6/2003 2:35:00 PM

Owl

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I'd like a full FOW effect where you don't know what ships are sunk! Personally it'd be rather fun to wonder if that carrier got away and will be returning from Pearl or Tokyo in a few months to avenge itself on me. I do that now by simply not checking but the temptation... the temptation...!

I bet Yamamoto wished he had that database...

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Date of sinking - 1/6/2003 4:46:43 PM

entemedor

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Yes Feinder! YES YES YES!!!

I absolutely agree that we need the date of loss in that screen. I too am checking the losses every turn (and keeping a printed list), the only way I have now to know what enemy ship has been added is to keep and check that list.

OWL, Yamamoto (and several other countries) DID HAVE that database. Please remember that next-of-kin of crewmen on sunken ships had to be informed of the deaths of their loved ones. Also, in Allied countries just a few things could really be kept secret (Manhattan project etc). The public HAD to know! Only the loss of a few big ships was kept secret for a considerable lenght of time. Usually, in a few weeks/months you could read in the Press 'The Admiralty (or the Navy Dpt) regrets to inform that the ship...' etc etc. Usually by that time the enemy Intelligence services already knew that (the Abwehr knew of every British ship which entered dock for repairs and even the estimated time of repairing; surely the other Services managed the same or more.)

Have you ever seen a wartime Weyers Taschenbuch der Kriegsflotten? It's the German equivalent of today Jane's Fighting Ships. I own a copy of the 1941/42 edition. Alongside every British ship class, there is a remark Kriegsverlust (war losses) with the names of the ships the Admiralty had acknowledged as lost. And believe me, the list is quite complete... Just for the S-class submarines, they list three units still afloat (SUNFISH, SEAWOLF, SNAPPER) and 8 Kriegsverlust: STERLET, SALMON, SHARK, SEAHORSE, STARFISH, SPEARFISH, SEALION, SWORDFISH. Germany was more cautious when announcing losses, but even so ULTRA decoding allowed enough information.
Then there were the local newspapers were appeared obituaries of men lost with the ships. I truly believe few things could be kept really secret...

Cheers,
Entemedor

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- 1/6/2003 5:10:39 PM

Admiral Scott

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I would like to have a list of ships and tonnage each sub sinks.

It would be great if each ship recorded how many planes it shot down, and maybe even ships and subs sunk also.

Each ship can have a log we can read.

And how about a profile on each leader, (maybe with real photos), telling us more about each leader and his good and bad qualities.

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