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Character system need a kind of overhaul - 5/27/2013 11:52:35 PM   
Speeder

 

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Status: offline 		I mean, in general it is really nice...

But some things are HORRIBLE.

First, managing spy missions and other characters from the same screen can get maddenly crazy when you have too much characters.

Second, managing governors from that screen suck too, it would be nice if you could manage them from colonies screen.

Third, managing researchers also suck (But less), would be nice if you could manage them from research stations screen (screen that by the way is mostly empty anyway... :P)

And... so on.


Also, the stats are TOO random, and this combinated with some how things work is really annoying, for example you have to dismiss several leaders in a row before getting one that is not bad...

And if you have a empire with non-dictatorship government types, then you are screwed, you will get frequently elections (or if you are a pirate, frequent coups) and lots of bad leaders.

The "academies" did improve those stuff a lot though...

But the thing that most annoy me: training spies is TOO HARD depending on their stats (ie: all missions you can give them to improve a certain skill, will fail... specially bad for the psyops skill that only applies to a certain mission that is too hard to do anyway), and training "counterintelligence" spies is impossible it seems, I frequently get spies that are "untested" and ahs only counter as possible skill, if I leave them as counterintelligence mission, they remain untested forever, the only way to remove the "untested" is send them to a couple missions...
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RE: Character system need a kind of overhaul - 5/28/2013 12:59:15 AM   
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Status: offline 		Would being able to filter characters by type so that only the type you want to see would be displayed help? Like the ship and bases menus are done?

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RE: Character system need a kind of overhaul - 5/28/2013 1:15:29 AM   
PWOFalcon

 

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Status: offline 		I agree. I like the idea of having characters. Adds a little Rp fun to it. But a filter system would be nice.

What also would be cool if you could create and design your own leader (and maybe other members cabin members.)

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RE: Character system need a kind of overhaul - 5/28/2013 11:00:46 AM   
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Status: offline 		You can order the characters by role (or at least, you could in Legends) so you will have an overseeable group of governors, spies or admirals together.

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RE: Character system need a kind of overhaul - 5/28/2013 11:20:16 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Sirian

You can order the characters by role (or at least, you could in Legends) so you will have an overseeable group of governors, spies or admirals together.

You can still do that, and that is the only way to make it manageable.
I have to agree though, the vast majority of characters are anything but a boon to your empire. Once the Leader has just started getting some experience you get a new one. "Oh Look! Here comes President Drunken Gambler Xenophobe!"

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RE: Character system need a kind of overhaul - 5/28/2013 11:22:39 AM   
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Status: offline 		I like that characters have faults as well as bonus traits.It gives them some flavour rather than +10 farming MOO2 leader with a race picture.

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RE: Character system need a kind of overhaul - 5/28/2013 11:24:10 AM   
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Status: offline 		I always jokingly name my leader "Zaphod Beeblebrox" and he always gets ousted as 'incompetent'. Figures.

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RE: Character system need a kind of overhaul - 5/28/2013 11:50:58 AM   
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Status: offline 		If every character was a winner there wouldn't be much point to the system. Bit like the weather, you need the variety.

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RE: Character system need a kind of overhaul - 5/28/2013 3:57:36 PM   
Speeder

 

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Status: offline 		The problem is I usually get losers... Loads of them.

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RE: Character system need a kind of overhaul - 5/28/2013 5:15:48 PM   
Fideach

 

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Status: offline 		I'll be happy if I have the ability to assassinate those "losers". Arrange their death, frame an enemy empire... rally my people against them, reduce war weariness, etc. ...Or someone gets word of it, lets it known what I'm planning and causes a civil war cause I wanted to get rid of a bad leader lol.

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RE: Character system need a kind of overhaul - 5/28/2013 6:45:22 PM   
MartialDoctor


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Status: offline 		Well, I agree with the fact that characters may get to be a hassle late game as there are so many. Also, for spies, it would be nice if they could accumulate some, but not too much, experience through performing counterintelligence... however, other than that, I agree with the others. I enjoy the way that characters are in this game. It's great to have some characters who are good, some who are bad, and some who are ugly

And I haven't had the problem you say of not gaining experience with spies. Simply sending them on constant missions accumulates good experience.

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RE: Character system need a kind of overhaul - 5/29/2013 12:35:55 AM   
necaradan666

 

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Status: offline 		I just played a game where an agent went hardcore, over +60% in every spy skill, he was cruising round the galaxy blowing up pirate bases and assasinating scientists without breaking a sweat.


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ORIGINAL: CyclopsSlayer
Once the Leader has just started getting some experience you get a new one. "Oh Look! Here comes President Drunken Gambler Xenophobe!"



You only get new leaders regularly if you're playing with a government that take elections, if you play as a monarchy or whatever it's not often you lose your leader, unless they get killed and have their throne taken of course

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RE: Character system need a kind of overhaul - 5/29/2013 1:41:45 AM   
Shark7


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ORIGINAL: Mesthione

I always jokingly name my leader "Zaphod Beeblebrox" and he always gets ousted as 'incompetent'. Figures.


LOL

Does he get replaced with Arthur Dent?

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RE: Character system need a kind of overhaul - 5/29/2013 1:42:46 AM   
Shark7


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ORIGINAL: Speeder

The problem is I usually get losers... Loads of them.


You can dismiss them...even the leader. The leader will always be replaced.

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RE: Character system need a kind of overhaul - 5/29/2013 2:15:28 AM   
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Watch out for those demoralizer traits. Those cause skill degeneration to other chars at the same location... ugh. Dismiss or re-locate to a lone starbase if possible.

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RE: Character system need a kind of overhaul - 5/29/2013 6:28:33 AM   
Shark7


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ORIGINAL: TrooperCooper


Watch out for those demoralizer traits. Those cause skill degeneration to other chars at the same location... ugh. Dismiss or re-locate to a lone starbase if possible.



And the opposite is true of a character with the inspiring presence trait...you want to gather the flock around those guys.

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