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Greatest Japanese Achievements? - 6/5/2013 4:59:06 PM   
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Status: offline 		I'm enjoying re-immersing myself in all things WiTP but was curious about long term Japanese Success in the campaign game. We all know Japanese is behind the 8 ball but what are some of the greatest victories you folks have pulled off as the Japanese? Has anyone successfully invaded the Hawaii Islands or the US Homeland or some other amazing feat?
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RE: Greatest Japanese Achievements? - 6/5/2013 5:36:02 PM   
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ORIGINAL: buckaroo13

I'm enjoying re-immersing myself in all things WiTP but was curious about long term Japanese Success in the campaign game. We all know Japanese is behind the 8 ball but what are some of the greatest victories you folks have pulled off as the Japanese? Has anyone successfully invaded the Hawaii Islands or the US Homeland or some other amazing feat?


AFAIK PzB basically managed to win the match against AndyMac, repeatetly destroying several allied attempts to break his perimeter.
Rader, against me, managed to conquer the whole China and the whole of India but Karachi.
John III managed to conquer the whole Australia in one of his present games.
Afaik none has managed to conquer the Hawaii or Canada.


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RE: Greatest Japanese Achievements? - 6/5/2013 5:37:53 PM   
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RE: Greatest Japanese Achievements? - 6/6/2013 1:41:51 AM   
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Status: offline 		I think one has to distinguish between Scen 1 and then the uber Japanese scenarios (scen 2 or RA).

A Japanese victory in Scenario is incredibly impressive.

A Japanese victory in the uber scenarios is an achievement, but should not be that shocking.

Also much depends on HR (for certain things like land war in China...not so much for CV combat)

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RE: Greatest Japanese Achievements? - 6/6/2013 1:47:49 AM   
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A. The Japanese uber games make much better "games" in the sense that scenario still favors the allies, it is certainly not a shock that
Japan can win.

B. Winning as the Japanese in the uber games is still not a piece of cake. Just not the truly shocking event it would be in scenario 1 (or the dababes version
of scenario 1).

C. HRs can have a huge effect on play by
A. Allowing really gamey stuff (ie, nuking all of Chinese light industry so the China gets zero supply)
B. Disallowing realistic things so as to favor one side (not allowing strategic bombing at night (even past 1944) or below 20,000 feet.

Kudos to the Japanese victories mentioned above.

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RE: Greatest Japanese Achievements? - 6/6/2013 1:55:40 AM   
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RE: Greatest Japanese Achievements? - 6/7/2013 12:15:11 AM   
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Status: offline 		Completing the "Day 2" Japanese force dispositions. Everything after that has been cake.

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RE: Greatest Japanese Achievements? - 6/7/2013 12:47:05 AM   
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I all seriousness pzb handed me my arse on a plate

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RE: Greatest Japanese Achievements? - 6/7/2013 12:54:39 AM   
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ORIGINAL: GreyJoy


quote:

ORIGINAL: buckaroo13

I'm enjoying re-immersing myself in all things WiTP but was curious about long term Japanese Success in the campaign game. We all know Japanese is behind the 8 ball but what are some of the greatest victories you folks have pulled off as the Japanese? Has anyone successfully invaded the Hawaii Islands or the US Homeland or some other amazing feat?


AFAIK PzB basically managed to win the match against AndyMac, repeatetly destroying several allied attempts to break his perimeter.
Rader, against me, managed to conquer the whole China and the whole of India but Karachi.
John III managed to conquer the whole Australia in one of his present games.
Afaik none has managed to conquer the Hawaii or Canada.





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RE: Greatest Japanese Achievements? - 6/7/2013 12:55:54 AM   
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Completing the "Day 2" Japanese force dispositions. Everything after that has been cake.



THAT made me laugh. I feel that pain Sir.


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RE: Greatest Japanese Achievements? - 6/7/2013 1:18:24 AM   
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ORIGINAL: John 3rd


quote:

ORIGINAL: Kull

Completing the "Day 2" Japanese force dispositions. Everything after that has been cake.



THAT made me laugh. I fell that pain Sir.



I was wondering how long it was going to take.

What about the December 6 orders phase? If anything is worse than December 7, it's that one.

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RE: Greatest Japanese Achievements? - 6/7/2013 11:32:27 AM   
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RE: Greatest Japanese Achievements? - 6/7/2013 4:28:37 PM   
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Status: offline 		While Strategically ill advised have the Hawaii islands ever been taken? Can they?

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RE: Greatest Japanese Achievements? - 6/7/2013 4:42:08 PM   
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While Strategically ill advised have the Hawaii islands ever been taken? Can they?

as with anything, if they devote the resources to it, they can do it. however the price will be high. not so much in the Hawaian area but elsewhere where they will not have the those resources.

rms/pa

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RE: Greatest Japanese Achievements? - 6/9/2013 8:43:54 AM   
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scene 1
I have sunk 5 of the original allied CVs, put holes into the last one, sunk 8 BBs (at sea, no pearl harbour strike), 2 CVL and 2 essex class now, still holds the moulmien line, hollandia, and is still (just) fighting for timor. And its almost mid july 44

Still ahead on points as well.

I have been lucky though.

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RE: Greatest Japanese Achievements? - 6/9/2013 9:26:29 AM   
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ORIGINAL: rms1pa


quote:

ORIGINAL: buckaroo13

While Strategically ill advised have the Hawaii islands ever been taken? Can they?

as with anything, if they devote the resources to it, they can do it. however the price will be high. not so much in the Hawaian area but elsewhere where they will not have the those resources.

rms/pa


I seem to remember someone testing this out recently? They put EVERYTHING into a PH assault but still failed miserable. They did a lot of testing and came to the conclusion it actually was impossible.

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RE: Greatest Japanese Achievements? - 6/9/2013 2:42:18 PM   
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ORIGINAL: 1275psi

herbiean feels pretty good at the moment

scene 1
I have sunk 5 of the original allied CVs, put holes into the last one, sunk 8 BBs (at sea, no pearl harbour strike), 2 CVL and 2 essex class now, still holds the moulmien line, hollandia, and is still (just) fighting for timor. And its almost mid july 44

Still ahead on points as well.

I have been lucky though.



Can I rub your tummy for luck Sir? Cannot find ANY in my match with the Southern Paddler!

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RE: Greatest Japanese Achievements? - 6/10/2013 8:10:57 AM   
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RE: Greatest Japanese Achievements? - 6/10/2013 10:42:07 AM   
morejeffs

 

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How have you been.

Actually, I am early in an RA campaign....
Very worried about the long term and suffering the usually early Allied tortures....And there are plenty...
Am trying my best to attrit transports and pilots. (yeah, I know I can not outright beat the Japanese in the air now,
but if I can suffer 1.25 losses to 1 loss (or even 1.5) then it is probably worth it to kill pilots).

UV was a blast...Could do 3-4 games at once...Not with AE...

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RE: Greatest Japanese Achievements? - 6/10/2013 12:14:21 PM   
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Status: offline 		Welcome back. I am fine thanks. Not an entrepeneur anymore. Tried to reach you a couple of times once a year or so. ;-)

Still in Japan?

As of AE remember the basics of strategy. Time, space, force and information. As you have too many places to defend (and you cannot defend them all) keep as much distance from KB as much possible.

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RE: Greatest Japanese Achievements? - 6/11/2013 2:22:28 AM   
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Status: offline 		I thought that was you morejeffs!

Ursa Major? I remember your old moniker from those days. Good to have you back in action.

I'm trying to get my UV up and running because my 10 year-old wants to learn how to play it. Be a lot of fun watching him play. He is fixated on Midway and Pearl Harbor right now and reads everything he can find on it.


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RE: Greatest Japanese Achievements? - 6/11/2013 5:48:24 AM   
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Status: offline 		I am still running my small business....My 15 yr old son sadly has little interest in military history...UV was so much fun.
I also think because you could play so many games, the sting of losing a game was much less...

I am trying to stay away from the KB, but sadly some transport TFs have yet to get the warp engines I am working on



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RE: Greatest Japanese Achievements? - 6/11/2013 7:20:52 AM   
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I play War at Sea minis with my son, he is 10, hoping it would raise his interest. Used to play World Of tanks, but he was so hooked up I had delete the game.

Still flirting with the idea of playing a GC in WitP AE, yet my wife has a say too since this means an second life (with all the bookkeping, planning, executing and stuff).

And back to topic, my glorious moment was back in UV, when I managed to surprise jeffs, by landing in Noumea (or where was that) instead of Guadalcanal. Still lost the game though :D

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RE: Greatest Japanese Achievements? - 6/11/2013 7:56:51 AM   
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