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RE: The Clash of Titans...another allied victory? - 6/10/2013 8:33:43 PM

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Lots of interesting thoughts guys. Thanks a lot!

i think that those who believe that the uncoordinated striking attitudes are related to the extreme long range of my Attacks are more on point than Others.

Probably all of the mentioned circumstances concurr to the effect we're seeing but it's clear that, so far, i have Always attacked at extreme ranges (Always at 8 hexes with my CVs) and that may have played, under the new beta, a major role in the coordination absence.

However... i'm back from Valencia.
The city is nice, even if it's crowded by tourists. Lots of italians and, surprisingly, lots of americans!
I didn't have much time to visit the city unfortunately. The "City of Science" by Santiago Calatrava is really impressing (altough i must say that i hate the "abort" he's done in Vencie)... And so it is the Harbour area (the one done for the America's Cup 2007). They have a wonderfull beach and the climate is excellent.
Not so much the city center, even if i've seen some very beautifull corners.

I did expect a bit better by the women inhabitants... should't they supposed to be "easy" ??

...i can tell you: not that much!...but that's probably because they do already see too many tourists every day and they are quite used to see strangers hunting in their city.

I've visited two clubs...drank a lot and went out without a single prey in my pocket...oh well, at least i didn't spend a single euro of mine! ;-)

another good thing is that life doesn't cost that much there...i'd say 30% less than in northern Italy... with 7� you can have a mojito in a disco!!!!

Ok, now back to war... the KB retires to Babeldolap, while the allied DS gets back to Darwin...a quite turn, finally... time to lick my wounds

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RE: The Clash of Titans...another allied victory? - 6/10/2013 9:09:31 PM

obvert

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Maybe the easy ones are all in Barcelona and Ibiza for the summer? Or maybe you didn't shell out for enough �7 cocktails for them?

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RE: The Clash of Titans...another allied victory? - 6/11/2013 11:34:57 AM

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6th Dec 1943

A quiet turn. While the enemy's CVs are parked at Darwin replenishing, my KB is moving back to Bab in order to fullfill its depleted air groups and tanks.
Usual enemy bombings over Sarmi and Vanimo, Rabaul and PM...in order to keep suppressed all my AFs...this also answers to Chickenboy's question about the chance of harassing his lanes with sort of kamikaze air groups moved to bypassed bases...they are all kept suppressed...every day... no chance to do that.

I've moved the Yamato's group to Kendari. We'll replenish and then will move back to Ambon area. For sure he will try to reinforce Babo, recently conquered by his paras.

My forces are Kai-Enlanded are getti crushed every day...they won't last much longer.

In Burma everything is quiet... the quiet before the storm?

He also started to reduce my HIs in China. He's reconning my bases at Sian, Chengtu (already attacked and destroyed all the HIs there), Lanchow etc... i'm doing my best to keep a decent fighter cover there...but I know i'll soon lose all those HIs...he just needs enough bombers

So, What's next on his list?

I bet he will advance to Babo, Sarmi and Woletai (south of Tinian). I'm prepped to slow him down...let's see what I can do.

4 Brigades are moving to Menado as we speak, and 2 more are moving to Thailand, while several base forces are being committed to Mindanao. 50,000 supplies and 50,000 fuel are getting sent to Manila and Davao.

Just few days before the production of the P1Y2, D4Y4 and KI-49T begins. In Feb 44 we should have the Grace and the J3M5 (which will be the last late war navy fighters before the SAM, cause i'm not R&Ding the N1K5).

The first R&D factory of 1x30 SAM should be all repaired within the next week (only one point left)... but won't get the engine bonus anytime before October 44.

Waiting for the upcoming next battles, we're regrouping and refilling my shattered air groups... lost 2300 planes in 10 days of fighting, along with 1100 pilots... won't be easy nor fast to recover

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RE: The Clash of Titans...another allied victory? - 6/13/2013 6:19:11 AM

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GreyJoy....wonderful AAR. First thing I do when I log on is read your AAR. You are doing a masterful job against Brad.....Stay the course and extract maximum danage against the AFB....

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RE: The Clash of Titans...another allied victory? - 6/17/2013 4:48:44 PM

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Sorry for the lack of updates guys. Busy days.
Many things happened in the last days. Some good, some bad.

Don't have time to write a comprehensive update now, just to let all the JFBs know that the IJN just got a major victory at sea. In exchange of 900 planes shot down (basically the whole KB attacking force, plus a good bunch of my very last reserves) we sunk 2 Essex Class CVs (damaging badly 2 more CVs), 2 CVEs and 1 CVL. Not a single one of my ships suffered any hit. Also 4/5k men of the 1st USMC Division sunk aboard their transports

Hope to be able to update tonight with some screenshots

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RE: The Clash of Titans...another allied victory? - 6/17/2013 5:08:51 PM

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That's a great event!! Looking forward for the update!!

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RE: The Clash of Titans...another allied victory? - 6/17/2013 5:09:48 PM

obvert

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quote:

ORIGINAL: GreyJoy

Sorry for the lack of updates guys. Busy days.
Many things happened in the last days. Some good, some bad.

Don't have time to write a comprehensive update now, just to let all the JFBs know that the IJN just got a major victory at sea. In exchange of 900 planes shot down (basically the whole KB attacking force, plus a good bunch of my very last reserves) we sunk 2 Essex Class CVs (damaging badly 2 more CVs), 2 CVEs and 1 CVL. Not a single one of my ships suffered any hit. Also 4/5k men of the 1st USMC Division sunk aboard their transports

Hope to be able to update tonight with some screenshots

Congrats! Well done at this point. All of your efforts and losses pay off with one like that.

Every CV you sink now (not losing your own) pushes him back 1-2 months on his timeline, especially if you get troops in the bargain.

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RE: The Clash of Titans...another allied victory? - 6/17/2013 6:17:47 PM

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quote:

Sorry for the lack of updates guys. Busy days.
Many things happened in the last days. Some good, some bad.

Don't have time to write a comprehensive update now, just to let all the JFBs know that the IJN just got a major victory at sea. In exchange of 900 planes shot down (basically the whole KB attacking force, plus a good bunch of my very last reserves) we sunk 2 Essex Class CVs (damaging badly 2 more CVs), 2 CVEs and 1 CVL. Not a single one of my ships suffered any hit. Also 4/5k men of the 1st USMC Division sunk aboard their transports

Hope to be able to update tonight with some screenshots

If I recall, and it was from your Japan invasion AAR, the pilot pools for the IJN are not limited. As some point you just run out. Your opponent was close to that point when the game broke down. How many times do you think you can reload the KB before you just run out of pilots? BTW, good to hear you had a good day at sea. The Allied steamroller was beginning to build up some momentum.

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RE: The Clash of Titans...another allied victory? - 6/17/2013 9:53:49 PM

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Dec 14, 43

So the enemy conquered Akyab, after one week of hard fights, completely destroying the 33rd Division and a mortar regiment... i had hoped the division would have retreated eastwards...no joy. Even if i occupy and hold the hex (the enemy is present but only has one hexside) the division didn't retreat and remained there to die...:-(
Now Burma is in danger... with Akyab in his hands... gotta think about something here...

But let's come to the good news..

In the last week QBAll has conquered Bolo, Gorong (where he already has a level 3 AF) and succesfully landed, Yesterday, the 1st Marine Division at Kaimana.... my units were weak there...but Brad didn't come with the usual steamroller here...only one unit (the USMC Division) and not a single APA/AKA...only xAPs and AKs... so slow unloading....

I have kept my KB lurking between Sorong and Bab...avoiding all his subs infesting those waters.... waiting...waiting...waiting....

Then i decided to move in.
This time i avoided the 8 hexes strike... i had hoped Brad would have kept his striking range a bit off in order to avoid unintentional Attacks at Nomemfor... and i was right (for once!)

Here's what happened...

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Invasion Support action off Kaimana (83,113)

35 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Allied Ships
AM Tumult
AM Token
AK Situla

Allied ground losses:
73 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

AM Tumult fired at enemy troops
AM Token fired at enemy troops
Defensive Guns fire at approaching troops in landing craft at 1,000 yards

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Taberfane at 82,116

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 95 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 28 minutes

Japanese aircraft
P1Y1 Frances x 21
Ki-43-IIb Oscar x 45

Allied aircraft
Spitfire Vc Trop x 1
P-38G Lightning x 1
P-40K Warhawk x 2
FM-1 Wildcat x 14
F4U-1 Corsair x 1
F4U-1A Corsair x 56
F6F-3 Hellcat x 322

Japanese aircraft losses
P1Y1 Frances: 14 destroyed
Ki-43-IIb Oscar: 17 destroyed

No Allied losses

Not a single plane on CAP at Kaimana....
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Morning Air attack on TF, near Kaimana at 83,113

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid spotted at 2 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 0 minutes

Japanese aircraft
B6N2 Jill x 44
J2M3 Jack x 9
N1K1-J George x 99
N1K2-J George x 27
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 78

Japanese aircraft losses
B6N2 Jill: 1 damaged
N1K1-J George: 1 damaged

Allied Ships
xAP Mungana, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
xAP Clan Macfadyen
AK Situla, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
xAP Lydia M. Child, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
xAP Waiotapu, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk
AM Tumult, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
xAP Clan Macgillivray
AK Celeno, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

Allied ground losses:
5288 casualties reported
Squads: 45 destroyed, 29 disabled
Non Combat: 246 destroyed, 99 disabled
Engineers: 20 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 78 (71 destroyed, 7 disabled)
Vehicles lost 33 (29 destroyed, 4 disabled)

then the KB finally attacked... and finally a good coordinated strike

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Taberfane at 82,116

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 120 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 40 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 10
A6M3a Zero x 7
A6M5 Zero x 198
B6N2 Jill x 203
D4Y3 Judy x 138

Allied aircraft
Spitfire Vc Trop x 1
P-38G Lightning x 1
P-40K Warhawk x 2
FM-1 Wildcat x 13
F4U-1 Corsair x 1
F4U-1A Corsair x 54
F6F-3 Hellcat x 312

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 2 destroyed
A6M5 Zero: 15 destroyed
B6N2 Jill: 40 destroyed, 40 damaged
B6N2 Jill: 11 destroyed by flak
D4Y3 Judy: 19 destroyed, 30 damaged
D4Y3 Judy: 5 destroyed by flak

Allied aircraft losses
F6F-3 Hellcat: 2 destroyed

Allied Ships
CV Saratoga
CVL Monterey
CV Congress, Bomb hits 3, Torpedo hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
CV Constellation, Bomb hits 5, Torpedo hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
CV Hornet, Bomb hits 3, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
CA Louisville
CV Lexington
DD Radford
DD DeHaven
CLAA Atlanta
DD Hutchins
DD Jenkins

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x B6N2 Jill launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 45cm Type 91 Torp
7 x B6N2 Jill launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 45cm Type 91 Torp
7 x D4Y3 Judy releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 500 kg SAP Bomb
14 x B6N2 Jill launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 45cm Type 91 Torp
9 x D4Y3 Judy releasing from 1000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 500 kg SAP Bomb
10 x B6N2 Jill launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 45cm Type 91 Torp
4 x D4Y3 Judy releasing from 1000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 500 kg SAP Bomb
15 x B6N2 Jill launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 45cm Type 91 Torp
21 x B6N2 Jill launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 45cm Type 91 Torp
11 x B6N2 Jill launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 45cm Type 91 Torp
1 x D4Y3 Judy releasing from 10000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 500 kg SAP Bomb
6 x B6N2 Jill launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 45cm Type 91 Torp
6 x B6N2 Jill launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 45cm Type 91 Torp
9 x B6N2 Jill launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 45cm Type 91 Torp
8 x D4Y3 Judy releasing from 1000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 500 kg SAP Bomb
11 x B6N2 Jill launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 45cm Type 91 Torp
5 x D4Y3 Judy releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 500 kg SAP Bomb
5 x B6N2 Jill launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 45cm Type 91 Torp
7 x D4Y3 Judy releasing from 1000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 500 kg SAP Bomb
4 x D4Y3 Judy releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 500 kg SAP Bomb
5 x D4Y3 Judy releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 500 kg SAP Bomb
6 x D4Y3 Judy releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 500 kg SAP Bomb
7 x D4Y3 Judy releasing from 1000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 500 kg SAP Bomb
6 x B6N2 Jill launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 45cm Type 91 Torp
5 x D4Y3 Judy releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 500 kg SAP Bomb
10 x D4Y3 Judy releasing from 1000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 500 kg SAP Bomb
4 x B6N2 Jill launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 45cm Type 91 Torp
8 x D4Y3 Judy releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 500 kg SAP Bomb
3 x D4Y3 Judy releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 500 kg SAP Bomb
3 x D4Y3 Judy releasing from 1000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 500 kg SAP Bomb
8 x D4Y3 Judy releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 500 kg SAP Bomb
4 x D4Y3 Judy releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 500 kg SAP Bomb

CAP engaged:
VF-1 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 4 scrambling)
4 plane(s) not yet engaged, 22 being recalled, 6 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 10000 and 19000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 45 minutes
VF-2 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 5 scrambling)
4 plane(s) not yet engaged, 19 being recalled, 6 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 9000 and 18000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 37 minutes
1 planes vectored on to bombers
VF-3 with F6F-3 Hellcat (4 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
9 plane(s) not yet engaged, 22 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 10000 and 18000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 23 minutes
7 planes vectored on to bombers
VF-8 with F4U-1A Corsair (7 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
7 plane(s) intercepting now.
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 15 being recalled, 4 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 11000 and 17110.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 40 minutes
4 planes vectored on to bombers
VF-9 with F6F-3 Hellcat (6 airborne, 4 on standby, 0 scrambling)
6 plane(s) intercepting now.
2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 19 being recalled, 4 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 11000 and 17000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 34 minutes
6 planes vectored on to bombers
VF-71 with F4U-1A Corsair (4 airborne, 0 on standby, 4 scrambling)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 14 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 6000 and 18000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 40 minutes
3 planes vectored on to bombers
VF-22 with F6F-3 Hellcat (8 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
8 plane(s) intercepting now.
7 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 8 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 4000 and 20000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 38 minutes
VF-23 with F6F-3 Hellcat (3 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
4 plane(s) not yet engaged, 11 being recalled, 4 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 10000 and 12000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 36 minutes
VF-24 with F6F-3 Hellcat (4 airborne, 0 on standby, 4 scrambling)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 7 being recalled, 4 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 5000 and 18000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 42 minutes
4 planes vectored on to bombers
VF-30 with F6F-3 Hellcat (4 airborne, 4 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 11 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 10000 and 14000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 18 minutes
2 planes vectored on to bombers
VF-35 with FM-1 Wildcat (4 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 4 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 10000 and 17000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 32 minutes
VC(F)-63 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 5 being recalled, 5 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 4000 and 16000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 38 minutes
2 planes vectored on to bombers
VRF-4F with F6F-3 Hellcat (3 airborne, 0 on standby, 1 scrambling)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 7 being recalled, 4 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 6000 and 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 34 minutes
VRF-7F with F6F-3 Hellcat (6 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
6 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 7 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 11 minutes
2 planes vectored on to bombers
VMF-113 with F6F-3 Hellcat (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 20000
Raid is overhead
VMF-214 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters to 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 16 minutes
VMF-216 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 15 minutes
VMF-225 with F6F-3 Hellcat (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 3 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 7 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 5000 and 16000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 34 minutes
1 planes vectored on to bombers
VMF-441 with F4U-1 Corsair (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 20000
Raid is overhead
No.452 Sqn RAF with Spitfire Vc Trop (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters to 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 15 minutes
1 planes vectored on to bombers

Fuel storage explosion on CV Congress
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring CV Congress
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring CV Hornet
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring CV Constellation

None of them sunk at this moment....

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Taberfane at 82,116

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 118 NM, estimated altitude 17,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 35 minutes

Japanese aircraft
P1Y1 Frances x 6
Ki-43-IIb Oscar x 9

Allied aircraft
Spitfire Vc Trop x 1
P-38G Lightning x 1
P-40K Warhawk x 2
FM-1 Wildcat x 9
F4U-1 Corsair x 1
F4U-1A Corsair x 48
F6F-3 Hellcat x 232

Japanese aircraft losses
P1Y1 Frances: 6 damaged
P1Y1 Frances: 1 destroyed by flak
Ki-43-IIb Oscar: 5 destroyed

No Allied losses

Allied Ships
CV Lexington
CV Saratoga

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Taberfane at 82,116

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 113 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 37 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 13
B6N1 Jill x 27

Allied aircraft
Spitfire Vc Trop x 1
P-38G Lightning x 1
P-40K Warhawk x 2
FM-1 Wildcat x 7
F4U-1 Corsair x 1
F4U-1A Corsair x 24
F6F-3 Hellcat x 163

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 6 destroyed
B6N1 Jill: 14 destroyed, 1 damaged
B6N1 Jill: 1 destroyed by flak

No Allied losses

Allied Ships
CVL Princeton, Torpedo hits 1

CV Wasp

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Taberfane at 82,116

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 116 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 38 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 9
B6N2 Jill x 17
D4Y3 Judy x 50

Allied aircraft
P-38G Lightning x 1
P-40K Warhawk x 2
FM-1 Wildcat x 5
F4U-1 Corsair x 1
F4U-1A Corsair x 23
F6F-3 Hellcat x 152

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 3 destroyed
B6N2 Jill: 8 destroyed, 2 damaged
D4Y3 Judy: 22 destroyed, 4 damaged
D4Y3 Judy: 2 destroyed by flak

No Allied losses

Allied Ships
CV Constellation, Torpedo hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage
CV Congress, heavy fires, heavy damage
DD Hutchins
DD Jenkins
CV Hornet, on fire, heavy damage
CA Louisville
DD Harrison
CA Baltimore

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x B6N2 Jill launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 45cm Type 91 Torp
1 x D4Y3 Judy releasing from 1000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 500 kg SAP Bomb
8 x D4Y3 Judy releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 500 kg SAP Bomb
4 x D4Y3 Judy releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 500 kg SAP Bomb
1 x D4Y3 Judy releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 500 kg SAP Bomb
1 x D4Y3 Judy releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 500 kg SAP Bomb
2 x D4Y3 Judy releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 500 kg SAP Bomb
1 x D4Y3 Judy releasing from 1000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 500 kg SAP Bomb

Heavy smoke from fires obscuring CV Constellation
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring CV Hornet

The Judys were particularly uneffective throughout the Whole day... thanks god the Jills did do great

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Taberfane at 82,116

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 119 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 39 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 25
B6N2 Jill x 25
D4Y3 Judy x 47

Allied aircraft
P-38G Lightning x 1
P-40K Warhawk x 2
FM-1 Wildcat x 5
F4U-1 Corsair x 1
F4U-1A Corsair x 23
F6F-3 Hellcat x 130

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 6 destroyed
B6N2 Jill: 13 destroyed
D4Y3 Judy: 30 destroyed, 1 damaged
D4Y3 Judy: 1 destroyed by flak

Allied aircraft losses
F6F-3 Hellcat: 2 destroyed

Allied Ships
CA Baltimore
CV Constellation, heavy fires, heavy damage
CA Louisville
CV Hornet, on fire, heavy damage
CV Congress, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x D4Y3 Judy releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 500 kg SAP Bomb
5 x D4Y3 Judy releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 500 kg SAP Bomb
3 x B6N2 Jill launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 45cm Type 91 Torp

Heavy smoke from fires obscuring CV Constellation
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring CV Congress

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Taberfane at 82,116

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 108 NM, estimated altitude 17,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 32 minutes

Japanese aircraft
P1Y1 Frances x 9

Allied aircraft
P-38G Lightning x 1
P-40K Warhawk x 2
FM-1 Wildcat x 4
F4U-1 Corsair x 1
F4U-1A Corsair x 17
F6F-3 Hellcat x 102

Japanese aircraft losses
P1Y1 Frances: 6 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F6F-3 Hellcat: 2 destroyed

Allied Ships
CV Constellation, and is sunk

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Taberfane at 82,116

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 17 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
P1Y1 Frances x 9
Ki-43-IIb Oscar x 27

Allied aircraft
P-38G Lightning x 1
P-40K Warhawk x 2
FM-1 Wildcat x 4
F4U-1 Corsair x 1
F4U-1A Corsair x 13
F6F-3 Hellcat x 86

Japanese aircraft losses
P1Y1 Frances: 6 destroyed
Ki-43-IIb Oscar: 7 destroyed

No Allied losses

Allied Ships
CVL Princeton
CVL Monterey

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Taberfane at 82,116

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 30 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Japanese aircraft
P1Y1 Frances x 6
Ki-43-IIb Oscar x 38

Allied aircraft
P-38G Lightning x 1
P-40K Warhawk x 1
FM-1 Wildcat x 4
F4U-1A Corsair x 10
F6F-3 Hellcat x 75

Japanese aircraft losses
P1Y1 Frances: 1 destroyed
Ki-43-IIb Oscar: 11 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
FM-1 Wildcat: 1 destroyed
F4U-1A Corsair: 1 destroyed

Allied Ships
CV Congress, heavy fires, heavy damage
CV Hornet, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk

Aircraft Attacking:
5 x P1Y1 Frances launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 45cm Type 91 Torp

CAP engaged:
VF-3 with F6F-3 Hellcat (5 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
5 plane(s) intercepting now.
2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 10000 and 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 14 minutes
3 planes vectored on to bombers
VF-8 with F4U-1A Corsair (6 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
6 plane(s) intercepting now.
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 10000 and 12000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 12 minutes
2 planes vectored on to bombers
VF-71 with F4U-1A Corsair (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 17 minutes
1 planes vectored on to bombers
VF-22 with F6F-3 Hellcat (5 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
5 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 15000
Raid is overhead
2 planes vectored on to bombers
VF-23 with F6F-3 Hellcat (5 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
5 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 15000
Raid is overhead
2 planes vectored on to bombers
VF-24 with F6F-3 Hellcat (5 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
5 plane(s) intercepting now.
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 10000 and 18000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 9 minutes
3 planes vectored on to bombers
VF-30 with F6F-3 Hellcat (6 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
6 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 15000
Raid is overhead
1 planes vectored on to bombers
VF-35 with FM-1 Wildcat (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 10000 and 20000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 16 minutes
1 planes vectored on to bombers
VC(F)-63 with F6F-3 Hellcat (3 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 14 minutes
1 planes vectored on to bombers
VRF-4F with F6F-3 Hellcat (4 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 15000
Raid is overhead
VMF-214 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters to 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 14 minutes
1 planes vectored on to bombers
VMF-225 with F6F-3 Hellcat (4 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 15000
Raid is overhead
1 planes vectored on to bombers
347th FG/68th FS with P-40K Warhawk (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters to 20000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 17 minutes
18th FG/78th FS with P-38G Lightning (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 20000
Raid is overhead
VF-1 with F6F-3 Hellcat (4 airborne, 0 on standby, 1 scrambling)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 10000 and 19000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 35 minutes
4 planes vectored on to bombers
VF-2 with F6F-3 Hellcat (7 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
7 plane(s) intercepting now.
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 10000 and 12000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 10 minutes
5 planes vectored on to bombers
VF-9 with F6F-3 Hellcat (7 airborne, 0 on standby, 1 scrambling)
7 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 5000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 32 minutes
2 planes vectored on to bombers
VF-16 with F6F-3 Hellcat (6 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
6 plane(s) intercepting now.
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 12000 and 18000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 19 minutes
VRF-7F with F6F-3 Hellcat (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 15000
Raid is overhead

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He's now starting to clear my air dominion over Central China...

Morning Air attack on Chengtu , at 75,41

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 35 NM, estimated altitude 35,800 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 34

Allied aircraft
P-38H Lightning x 21

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-45 KAIa Nick: 10 destroyed

No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x P-38H Lightning sweeping at 31800 feet

CAP engaged:
67th Sentai with Ki-45 KAIa Nick (0 airborne, 18 on standby, 7 scrambling)
9 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 12000 , scrambling fighters between 12000 and 34000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 29 minutes

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Taberfane at 82,116

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 24 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K2-J George x 9
P1Y1 Frances x 9
Ki-43-IIb Oscar x 9

Allied aircraft
Spitfire Vc Trop x 1
P-38G Lightning x 1
P-40K Warhawk x 2
FM-1 Wildcat x 13
F4U-1 Corsair x 1
F4U-1A Corsair x 24
F6F-3 Hellcat x 209

Japanese aircraft losses
N1K2-J George: 3 destroyed
P1Y1 Frances: 3 destroyed, 4 damaged
Ki-43-IIb Oscar: 5 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F6F-3 Hellcat: 3 destroyed

Allied Ships
CVL Princeton, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x P1Y1 Frances launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 45cm Type 91 Torp

CAP
Ammo storage explosion on CVL Princeton

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Kaimana at 83,113

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid spotted at 14 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
B6N2 Jill x 43
N1K1-J George x 107
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 141
Ki-84r Frank x 27

Japanese aircraft losses
N1K2-J George: 2 damaged

Allied Ships
xAP Silverbeech, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
AK Celeno, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
xAP Clan Macfadyen
AM Token
AK Situla, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
xAP Clan Macgillivray, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
xAP Montoro, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

Allied ground losses:
1918 casualties reported
Squads: 5 destroyed, 19 disabled
Non Combat: 117 destroyed, 126 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Vehicles lost 24 (21 destroyed, 3 disabled)

Aircraft Attacking:
43 x B6N2 Jill launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 45cm Type 91 Torp

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Taberfane at 82,116

The enemy's CAP was strongly reduced in the afternoon...

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 120 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 40 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 5
A6M3a Zero x 7
A6M5 Zero x 189
B6N2 Jill x 131
D4Y3 Judy x 52

Allied aircraft
Spitfire Vc Trop x 1
P-38G Lightning x 1
P-40K Warhawk x 2
FM-1 Wildcat x 10
F4U-1 Corsair x 1
F4U-1A Corsair x 20
F6F-3 Hellcat x 172

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M3a Zero: 2 destroyed
A6M5 Zero: 11 destroyed
B6N2 Jill: 39 destroyed, 24 damaged
B6N2 Jill: 5 destroyed by flak
D4Y3 Judy: 5 destroyed, 21 damaged
D4Y3 Judy: 5 destroyed by flak

Allied aircraft losses
F6F-3 Hellcat: 5 destroyed

Allied Ships
CV Wasp, Torpedo hits 2, on fire
CV Lexington
CVE Prince William, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
CVE Breton, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
CVE Chenango
CVE Casablanca, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
CVE Natoma Bay
CV Saratoga
CLAA San Juan
CLAA San Diego
CVL Monterey

Ammo storage explosion on CVE Breton

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Ground combat at Kaimana (83,113)

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 6284 troops, 53 guns, 13 vehicles, Assault Value = 203

Defending force 5788 troops, 150 guns, 50 vehicles, Assault Value = 341

Japanese ground losses:
33 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Assaulting units:
16th Naval Guard Unit
20th/B Division

Defending units:
1st Marine Division

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Ground combat at Akyab (54,45)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 39597 troops, 525 guns, 955 vehicles, Assault Value = 1377

Defending force 8470 troops, 53 guns, 1 vehicles, Assault Value = 24

Allied adjusted assault: 1447

Japanese adjusted defense: 13

Allied assault odds: 111 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), disruption(-), fatigue(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
1942 casualties reported
Squads: 166 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 19 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Guns lost 21 (21 destroyed, 0 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
60 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 14 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled

Assaulting units:
7th Indian Division
20th Indian Division
18th British Division
255th Armoured Brigade
Provisionl Tank Brigade
XV Corps Engineer Battalion

Defending units:
33rd Division

Japanese Unit(s) surrounded at Akyab

Lost 870 planes today, but i think 2 CVs immediately Sunk (Hornet and Congress), with the CV Constellation severly damaged and the Wasp eating 2 torps. 1 CVL is down, along with 2 CVEs for sure and 2 more damaged. a good harvest...finally.

My pilots pool? Yes, they are almost dry... only left with 300 IJN reserve pilots...i am now forced to use to fill the KB those pilots at the moment Flying in the reserve groups.... but hey, if i don't use my pilots to sink his ships...what should i use them for?

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RE: The Clash of Titans...another allied victory? - 6/17/2013 9:54:28 PM

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RE: The Clash of Titans...another allied victory? - 6/17/2013 11:18:47 PM

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Banzai!! About time your KB came through! That's quite a haul. What were the Allied losses in CV aircraft? I assume many diverted, but did anything go down with the ship?

Also, devastating strike on the landing force. That's a lot of losses for the USMC.

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RE: The Clash of Titans...another allied victory? - 6/17/2013 11:34:03 PM

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Banzai!! About time your KB came through! That's quite a haul. What were the Allied losses in CV aircraft? I assume many diverted, but did anything go down with the ship?

Also, devastating strike on the landing force. That's a lot of losses for the USMC.

I followed CRSutton's advice and decided to avoid the dreaded "8-hexes-strike"...and the punch was finally a decent one.

Yes, nearly 200 enemy planes went down with the ships. I think it's 2 CVs, 2 CVEs and 1 CVL. One more CV is in sinking conditions, along with 1 more CVEs.

It wasn't a mortal blow...but probably enough to re-estabilish the parity in terms of CVs.

The Marines drowned was a mistake of overconfident i guess. Not a single artillery, Engineer or support unit along with that Division... also not a single APA/AKA...so it took him more than one day to unload...and that gave me the time to come into action.

However now i badly need to replenish FAST my air groups.... basically i've lost 210 Jills and 190 Judys, along with 80 Frances and countless number of Oscars and Zeros.

Hopefully for the next time i'll be able to get some D4Y4s and their 800kg bombs with me

Really tired now...going to bed.

Night guys

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RE: The Clash of Titans...another allied victory? - 6/18/2013 1:01:26 AM

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Nice shootin' Tex!

Doin' Hideki proud.

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RE: The Clash of Titans...another allied victory? - 6/18/2013 6:27:23 AM

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here's a screenshot of the air losses of the day

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RE: The Clash of Titans...another allied victory? - 6/18/2013 8:38:44 AM

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This is a masterpiece of strategy!

I had never thought that you would have attacked again with KB so little time after those two slaughters that crushed your former air attacks.
I thought you had to recover and reorganize your forces and to rethink your strategy... Instead you risked all your remained assets and gave your opponent a real
Devastating blow! I'm sure your attack came completely inaspected and this could be the reason you found all his xAP without CAP and out position.
I'm glad to see that the coordination problem was only due to 8 hexes distance, it really sucks that you had to lose so many planes in your former attacks to discover it.
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RE: The Clash of Titans...another allied victory? - 6/18/2013 8:53:07 AM

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Took a look at my pools. The last month of battles north of Darwin has really put a toll on my pools. I'm short of Dive Bombers and cannon-fodder fighters (A6M3a), while I completely emptied the pool of A6M2s (lost nearly 1800 of them by now) and of the earlier model of the Judy (the D4Y1)

However we're now building a steady number of late war fighters and I hope to be able to stockpile them pretty quickly.
The KI-84R is being produced at a rate of 322 monthly, while 250 N1K2s are added every month. From March 1944 i'll also be able to produce 190 J2M5s.
Now, with the conversion of the P1Y1 factory to the P1Y2, i'll be producing 140 of them every month.
From Jan 1944 270 D4Y4s will be in production.

The final figures for 1944 should so be:

ARMY:

350 KI-84-r
251 KI-44-c
160 KI-43 IIIa (later becoming 250 KI-43 IV)

60 KI-45a (then switch from august 1944 to 120 KI-102c)

180 KI-67-T (probably will add more factories here)
140 KI-49-IIb

NAVY:

250 N1K2
190 J2M5
140 A6M5
40 A6M3a

140 P1Y2
40 G4M2
60 G3N3

270 D4Y4
160 B6N2
150 B7A2

In late 1944/1945 we will add to these numbers:

110 Ki-84-b
110 KI-83

160/180 A7M2
100 J7W1

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RE: The Clash of Titans...another allied victory? - 6/18/2013 8:57:08 AM

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This is a masterpiece of strategy!
I had never thought that you would have attacked again with KB so little time after those two slaughters that crushed your former air attacks.
I thought you had to recover and reorganize your forces and to rethink your strategy... Instead you risked all your remained assets and gave your opponent a real
Devastating blow! I'm sure your attack came completely inaspected and this could be the reason you found all his xAP without CAP and out position.
I'm glad to see that the coordination problem was only due to 8 hexes distance, it really sucks that you had to lose so many planes in your former attacks to discover it.
BANZAIII

It took me nearly 10 days to recover from the previous battle. I had to do some HEAVY micromanagement to be able to get all my pilots and planes ready for today.
Gotta say that I was lucky here. Everything went in my favour.
However I don't think it was a unexpected attack...Brad saw my CVs with his search planes... probably he simply thought I didn't dare to attack him again...don't really know.
But I knew that this was my line in the sand...I had to do whatever I could to slow him down here.... every day the allies get stronger and the later you attack, the weaker you will be as Japan

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RE: The Clash of Titans...another allied victory? - 6/18/2013 8:57:53 AM

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Hi,

finally the luck on your side. I was afraid that KB is cursed in your game

So far I have seen your opponent to make many and grave mistakes, and often he was saved just by a bad luck on your side.

While his overall strategy is sound, he really is lacking in operational and tactical spheres of the game. His deceptions are very interesting to watch, but he uses them on tactical scale mainly, where they have little to no impact.

Barb

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RE: The Clash of Titans...another allied victory? - 6/18/2013 9:16:24 AM

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Hi,

finally the luck on your side. I was afraid that KB is cursed in your game
So far I have seen your opponent to make many and grave mistakes, and often he was saved just by a bad luck on your side.

While his overall strategy is sound, he really is lacking in operational and tactical spheres of the game. His deceptions are very interesting to watch, but he uses them on tactical scale mainly, where they have little to no impact.

Barb

Thanks Barb for the kind words.
However I think you're too harsh on QBall here. Luck is always a twisting lady and Brad had his bad luck moments too, as I had mine.
And it's very easy to commit operational mistakes after 739 turns!. He has done well in the DEI so far. If this battle didn't go that well, we now would be saying that the allies are marching towards Mindanao and glory.
It's been a while since Brad hasn't pull any deception. In 1942 he drove me mad attacking the Aleutinas, Gilberts and NW OZ at the very same time...but then he stopped (don't know why).

Anyway, QBall has been doing just fine imho and the fact that he breached my perimeter and now has many bases (possible level 8 AFs) in range of my oil fields is the demonstration that his path is the right one.

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RE: The Clash of Titans...another allied victory? - 6/18/2013 9:46:34 AM

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That is actually, what I am saying

His strategy is sound (putting a knife on your neck), but he had suffered unnecessary losses due to operational and tactical mistakes (we all made some from time to time either) in the process ...

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RE: The Clash of Titans...another allied victory? - 6/18/2013 10:23:53 AM

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It took 10 whole days to recover from your previous losses!!!

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RE: The Clash of Titans...another allied victory? - 6/18/2013 11:00:26 AM

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It took 10 whole days to recover from your previous losses!!!

Blame the game for that Jeff, not me. It's not historical accurate. I know. You know. We all know it. It would take him the very same time to recover if he had suffered my same losses, provided he has enough planes in the pools...and the USN in late 1943 has plenty of DBs, TBs and Hellcats to completely fullfill 500 a/c lost within a week.

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RE: The Clash of Titans...another allied victory? - 6/18/2013 11:35:02 AM

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It took 10 whole days to recover from your previous losses!!!

Blame the game for that Jeff, not me. It's not historical accurate. I know. You know. We all know it. It would take him the very same time to recover if he had suffered my same losses, provided he has enough planes in the pools...and the USN in late 1943 has plenty of DBs, TBs and Hellcats to completely fullfill 500 a/c lost within a week.

And it's this ability that makes this a great game. Focusing too much on reality takes away from the enjoyment of what is a great match-up. The very fact that Japan can keep coming back from losses in this game keeps the stakes high for both players. If they can't come back then the Japanese players just quit from the boredom of inevitability.... I know what I prefer.

An no, I'm not a JFB.... I'm a A&JFB

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RE: The Clash of Titans...another allied victory? - 6/18/2013 2:30:30 PM

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I told ya GJ would be fighting just as hard come the end of 1943! :)

Q-Ball and GJ are too of my favorite players. GJ has done exceedingly well in this match. He'd be doing exceedingly well even if he was a long-time veteran Japanese player....but this is his first game as Japan (and second overall) for heaven's sake! Well done.

But for some people in here to attribute things that have happened to "bad luck" is ridiculous.

And it's fun to see the 20/20 hindsight pontifications of certain people posting.

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RE: The Clash of Titans...another allied victory? - 6/18/2013 3:03:52 PM

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Well Done Sir.

I have an AAR question. How is it that you can take multiple screenshots of the turn? I take one for Posting into mine but don't know how to get several without re-running the turn several times.

Thanks and CONGRATS!

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RE: The Clash of Titans...another allied victory? - 6/18/2013 4:35:54 PM

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Well Done Sir.

I have an AAR question. How is it that you can take multiple screenshots of the turn? I take one for Posting into mine but don't know how to get several without re-running the turn several times.

Thanks and CONGRATS!

Hi all.
1. assume f8 key is on.
2. hit the screen print button
3. hit the windowsbutton which will bring up the desktop screen
4. keep your paint button open while playing AE then just switch back and forth.
I hope I am answering the question correctly.

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RE: The Clash of Titans...another allied victory? - 6/18/2013 5:33:39 PM

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ORIGINAL: GreyJoy

Took a look at my pools. The last month of battles north of Darwin has really put a toll on my pools. I'm short of Dive Bombers and cannon-fodder fighters (A6M3a), while I completely emptied the pool of A6M2s (lost nearly 1800 of them by now) and of the earlier model of the Judy (the D4Y1)

However we're now building a steady number of late war fighters and I hope to be able to stockpile them pretty quickly.
The KI-84R is being produced at a rate of 322 monthly, while 250 N1K2s are added every month. From March 1944 i'll also be able to produce 190 J2M5s.
Now, with the conversion of the P1Y1 factory to the P1Y2, i'll be producing 140 of them every month.
From Jan 1944 270 D4Y4s will be in production.

The final figures for 1944 should so be:

ARMY:

350 KI-84-r
251 KI-44-c
160 KI-43 IIIa (later becoming 250 KI-43 IV)

60 KI-45a (then switch from august 1944 to 120 KI-102c)

180 KI-67-T (probably will add more factories here)
140 KI-49-IIb

NAVY:

250 N1K2
190 J2M5
140 A6M5
40 A6M3a

140 P1Y2
40 G4M2
60 G3N3

270 D4Y4
160 B6N2
150 B7A2

In late 1944/1945 we will add to these numbers:

110 Ki-84-b
110 KI-83

160/180 A7M2
100 J7W1

It's interesting to see how quickly our ideas change when playing the Japanese side. I completely understand and this is not a criticism by the way, just an observation.

You started the game talking about not pushing planes more than (if I recall correctly) 4 months ahead. During a discussion about jrcar's numbers you advised me to be careful of producing so many Ki-84 (he was producing 300 at the time).

Now your numbers are staggering!! it's competitiveness I know. You know now what it takes to fight the better equipment and bigger numbers of Allied groups and CVs. It takes HUGE numbers. This is a 'scenario 2' type of OOB so you should inflate those numbers. He knows what he's in for. It just astounds me what you are able to produce compared to what I've got going a whole 6 months later.

I'm sure you're doing this but make sure you have big nodes for LBA from several 8/9 level bases nearby to hit him when he gets into the Moluccas from several angles; Borneo, Mindanao and Babeldaob.

< Message edited by obvert -- 6/18/2013 5:35:31 PM >

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