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RE: AAR Waiting the SPM I Play the oldie - 6/21/2013 2:58:37 PM   
kokubokan25


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Any possibility of manned lunar landing is far...very far, in both sides. No money no honey. The desertions between astronauts are increasing; Stafford, Borman, Gordon, Anders, Schweickart....
With such amount of abandons is necessary recruit the Group IV in spite the few budget. Other money was spent researching the Apollo to first flight.

In the URSS no bad news this season so the only fail was in the Luna probe and no Luna Probes to future missions. Belyayev announced retirement as ordered by the Kremlin. Excessive use of vodka I guess.
The soviets, with slightly more budget as USA had good omens to a future lunar mission because they had almost done the development of the N1 Rocket.
Both sides make a attempt to reach orbit with a three person capsule this season.

-May 1968: Launching of the Soyuz I, with the cosmonauts Gorbatko, Rukavishnikov and Kubasov, the first manned three person capsule in orbit in Human History. Besides, the missions was a simple duration A to testing ship. The first part of the mission was done without notice but, once again, ignoring the 83% safety of the Soyuz, the program decides killing the crew during descent with a total parachute failure. This mark the end of the URSS space program.

-May 1968: The USA launch the Apollo II with Cunningham, Aldrin and Gordon aboard. Hopefully, the rocket denies to flight. Negative ignition, rocket shuts down safely and the craft is evacuated safely. Another great season in BARIS.



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RE: AAR Waiting the SPM I Play the oldie - 6/21/2013 6:38:29 PM   
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Status: offline 		The new game has to make things easier (more enjoyable) as regards flight failures. This great AAR will put people off buying the game on release unless the developers give us some indication that their incarnation won`t be all doom and gloom.

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RE: AAR Waiting the SPM I Play the oldie - 6/21/2013 7:21:48 PM   
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The new game has to make things easier (more enjoyable) as regards flight failures.


Uhm...not easy to balance a game like this, I guess that if after few attempts you can reach the moon the game would became quickly boring for the most part of the players.

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This great AAR will put people off buying the game on release unless the developers give us some indication that their incarnation won`t be all doom and gloom.


For me is exactly the opposite, more challenge more fun.
Then you have read only this AAR and he has taken several risks trying to win the race, I would not say this game is too difficult only for Fremen's report, surely is not easy and you need some luck but hey..this is the life


Edit: maybe just reduce a bit the penalty after a critical failure...

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RE: AAR Waiting the SPM I Play the oldie - 6/21/2013 10:20:44 PM   
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The new game has to make things easier (more enjoyable) as regards flight failures. This great AAR will put people off buying the game on release unless the developers give us some indication that their incarnation won`t be all doom and gloom.


Yes, don't worry about this. I'm building the game in such a way that it's very easy for me as a designer to tune the game parameters, so I'm confident that during the beta testing process we'll quickly hit the "sweet spot" regarding the difficulty level.

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RE: AAR Waiting the SPM I Play the oldie - 6/22/2013 12:55:05 PM   
kokubokan25


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Status: offline 		Anyway, the first disasters in both agencies cause the tipical snowball effect, cutting the budget and I,m forced to take more risks which in turn causes more disasters....

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RE: AAR Waiting the SPM I Play the oldie - 6/23/2013 11:53:04 AM   
kokubokan25


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The moral is down and down and this causes a lower productivity in R/D for one year. And in desertion news...Graveline and Cunningham go away.
With the soviets almost out of the race, the USA focus the program in Apollo and Surveyor again, to raise the prestige and get money to research the Saturn. If the programmed launches had success, may be will possible start with the rocket.

The soviets must scrub the manned flights. Soyuz safety factor down to 43%. Cosmonauts are now a small group between desertions and deaths so is necessary recruit the Group IV.

-October 1968: Launching of the Surveyor VII, another lunar probe landing craft only to get prestige, if possible. And finally, a success!!! Get nine points.

-December 1968: The Apollo III with Armstrong, Scott and Collins is in the Pad to second attempt to orbit and, to general frustration and surprise, another last second countdown abort because a major problem in the boosters!!! That’s amazing. This ship simply denies to flight.

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RE: AAR Waiting the SPM I Play the oldie - 6/25/2013 11:27:35 AM   
kokubokan25


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The president of the USA has insisted that the next space launch will be a manned mission. He has authorized an increase of 10 MB to support this effort. James Webb’s answer is simple: “We try it mister president, we try it”.
The moral in the crews is down and down...Anders retire and Engle, Gibson and Schmitt are a physical washout and unable to finish the basic training.
The situation is now critical. No astronauts to fulfilled two crews! Spent the money in Saturn so no near future flights.

In the URSS Shonin and Gurragchaa are the new desertions. The Soyuz is now at 77% safety....too risky. Moreover, the soviets only had three crews to control the Soyuz missions. Decide scrub second Soyuz flight and focus in N1. May be can schedule a lunar flyby manned after the first Soyuz safe mission.

No flights this season.

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RE: AAR Waiting the SPM I Play the oldie - 6/27/2013 9:27:35 PM   
kokubokan25


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In the NASA the moral crews are at dead point. Lovell, Chafee, Williams and McCandless announced retirement! No pilots available to any flight!!! I will carry on with only the Group IV green astronauts, it’s a complete disaster.
At once transfer the green astronauts to Apollo program and planned a new mission next season.

In the URSS a lot of new desertions and forced transfers to Siberia gulag. However, the Politburo decide send three top fighter Pilots to the Space Program.

Again, no flights this season.

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RE: AAR Waiting the SPM I Play the oldie - 6/28/2013 1:11:49 PM   
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RE: AAR Waiting the SPM I Play the oldie - 7/1/2013 1:32:25 PM   
kokubokan25


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ORIGINAL: Swedewolf

Congratz to 1000 views(hits) :o)


Thanks.


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RE: AAR Waiting the SPM I Play the oldie - 7/1/2013 1:33:42 PM   
kokubokan25


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The first season without desertions or abandons, may be because no astronauts left to quit the NASA agency. It’s a hard time to agency and serious decisions will occur. Saturn rocket is ready. Apollo is ready also but no success single flight to date...
Will be planned a duration orbit with the Apollo and next a Lunar Pass.

The soviets receive the new recruits and go at once to Soyuz. No time to advanced training. However, so no actually pilots in Soyuz, is not possible flights next season. The first manned Soyuz mission will be in 1971 at early.

-May 1970: The soviets launch the Soyuz V, a unmanned capsule to orbit the moon and return to earth. The mission was a failure again when primary parachute and emergency parachutes become tangled.

-May 1970: Launching of the Apollo V, the third attempt to three person craft orbit. Armstrong, Collins and Scott make a perfect mission and return safe to earth after a couple of orbits.

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RE: AAR Waiting the SPM I Play the oldie - 7/4/2013 8:38:56 PM   
kokubokan25


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The unexpected success of the Apollo V causes the agency take a very risk mission to be completed this season, a manned Lunar Pass. The moon landing is at this moment impossible because the LM is yet in the R&D.

The soviets had a different kind of problems. They had a almost ready LM but no crews avail.

-November 1970: The russians launch the Cosmos VI, a Mercury probe to get prestige. The mission was a success and gets 5 points.

-November 1970: The Apollo VI, in the first flight of the Saturn V rocket is ready to reach de moon. The former flights of the Apollo program were carried by the Titan rocket and boosters. In the capsule are Duke, Freeman and Evans. The countdown reaches the zero and suddenly, a huge explosion on pad disintegrates the rocket, pad and capsule. The crew was dead.

Well, it's possible get worst result in a single game? Nope.

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RE: AAR Waiting the SPM I Play the oldie - 7/5/2013 7:22:15 PM   
kokubokan25


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The NASA program to reach the moon is almost done between continuous disasters. After a investigation on Saturn rocket, a major engine test failure was detected. This will result in a loss of Safety down to 30%.
The last disaster was a huge setback to budget. NASA focus now in repair Saturn and flight to de moon orbit in Titan+boosters. Only four crews to manage Apollo program.
Soviets now had Soyuz+LM+N1 rocket ready to flight, but, it’s very risky try to reach moon without a single success three person orbit mission.

-May 1971: Launching of the Soyuz VI from Baikonur. Cosmonauts Strekalov, Glazkov and Solovyev make a success duration C mission and return safe to earth. May be the Soyuz program is now ready?

-May 1971: In spite the last disaster with the first flight of the Saturn, NASA decides launch the Apollo VII with Titan+boosters to make a very risky Lunar Pass. The rocket abandon surface and Apollo reaches orbit to general joy, specially between Garriott, England and Carr, the crew aboard. The Apollo complete a trans lunar injection and is the first human craft to abandon LEO. After seven days, Apollo makes a perfect splashdown in middle Pacific ocean. A outstanding success after a total disaster.

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RE: AAR Waiting the SPM I Play the oldie - 7/8/2013 4:16:32 PM   
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Great AAR... I think there's hardly any hard coded catastrophe that either NASA or the Soviets didn't get in this game... Is there any more room for more catastrophes at all?

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RE: AAR Waiting the SPM I Play the oldie - 7/8/2013 9:35:14 PM   
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Status: offline 		It's always more room for catastrophe in BARIS. :D Great AAR btw.

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RE: AAR Waiting the SPM I Play the oldie - 7/9/2013 9:27:38 AM   
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The NASA had now a capable capsule to reach moon, however, no money to R&D LM yet. With so small number of crews available scrub future missions it’s a wrong decision and may be causes another down of moral. Apollo VIII will flight this season in another Lunar Pass.

In the soviet side, western agents have penetrated security and damaged the N1 Rocket program. Repairs will cost 15 MB’s or a 20% Loss in safety will result.


-November 1971: Launching of the Soyuz VII with the first LK Module aboard. The crew was Atkov, Lebedev and Serebrov. It’s a LEO test LM mission. The voyage was running ok but, unfortunately, all attempts to docking Soyuz with LK fail.

-December 1971: Launching of the Apollo VIII in the second Lunar Pass with Titan+boosters. Saturn rocket continues with problems aka no money. The crew was Brand, Bean and Bull and the mission is accomplished with total success. It’s sad anyway, with enough money it’s sure the USA will win this race.

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RE: AAR Waiting the SPM I Play the oldie - 7/21/2013 3:27:44 PM   
kokubokan25


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Astronaut Carr was killed in a automobile crash. Moreover, Collins announced retirement for dissatisfaction with the Space program. Finally, the NASA had money to start with the R&D of the Eagle Module. Other money was spent in recruit the Group V.

In the URSS, the Chief minister of flight operations has reported that the first mission will be delayed for one season due to hairline cracks in the fuel tanks.

No flights this season.

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RE: AAR Waiting the SPM I Play the oldie - 7/25/2013 4:46:23 AM   
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Status: offline 		Thanks Fremen. Makes me want to fish out my BARIS game CD and play. I would assume you are using an emulator to run it.

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RE: AAR Waiting the SPM I Play the oldie - 7/27/2013 10:19:22 PM   
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www . raceintospace . org


no need for emulator.

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RE: AAR Waiting the SPM I Play the oldie - 7/29/2013 3:00:12 PM   
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RE: AAR Waiting the SPM I Play the oldie - 7/29/2013 6:18:34 PM   
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