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Book Recommendations - 1/11/2003 2:30:45 PM   
mlomax

 

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Status: offline 		Anyone have any good book recommendations?

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- 1/11/2003 2:47:22 PM   
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Any particular topic? You should also search for other "book" threads in the forums. There have been some great lists posted.

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- 1/11/2003 3:22:32 PM   
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Status: offline 		Although it has been debunked quite recently as a work of non fiction, I would recomend Guy Sajer's autobiography "Forgotten Soldier" because it got me started in wargaming as a kid.... I guess I should have read "Treasure Island" instead... I also like Keegans "Face of Battle" and Charles B. Mc Donald's "Company Commander" . There's more but I can't think of them right now!

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- 1/11/2003 9:11:11 PM   
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Status: offline 		"Enemy at the gates", by Craig, very well done book on the Stalingrad battle. Also "A time for trumpets", by MacDonald, on Battle of the Bulge. "Das Reich", by James Lucas, "Hitler Moves East", and "Scorched Earth", both by Paul Carrell, on east front action, but hard to find, unfortunately, just a few, can you tell I'm a used book dealer?!:D

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- 1/11/2003 9:36:23 PM   
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Status: offline 		I've got a shipment of six books coming in next week, I'll see if any of those are worth recommending. ;) :D

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- 1/11/2003 10:40:39 PM   
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Status: offline 		Antony Beevor: Stalingrad
Antony Beevor: The Downfall of Berlin, 1945

[URL=http://www.antonybeevor.com/]Antony Beevor[/URL]

I love those books.

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Re: Book Recommendations - 1/11/2003 10:45:16 PM   
Bing

 

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Status: offline 		[QUOTE]Originally posted by mlomax
[B]Anyone have any good book recommendations? [/B][/QUOTE]

Please be specific. Many of us have extensive libraries concerning war and warfare. If its the Red Army WW2, I'm your man. If its the Wehrmacht, there are dozens of others who can recommend books.

I will make one general rec: Richard Franks "Guadacanal", which is I feel a "must read" book. It is one of those books that when you finish it you may very well feel it would be next to impossible to do a better job of documenting the campaign.

Especially good are the sections devoted to the terrible, agonizing struggle the IJA had with the jungle. This material might be available elsehwere, but you also might spend years finding it. Five out of five stars.

Otherwise, let us know your area of interest and you will get lots of recs.

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World war II - 1/12/2003 12:36:23 AM   
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Status: offline 		The books I was thinking about were from the World War II era. I have recently started reading military history and have enjoyed it alot.

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- 1/12/2003 2:40:41 AM   
Bing

 

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Status: offline 		WW2 was a VERY large undertaking. Be specific. You will get better recs that way.

If its general WW2, pick a history at random - you could do worse than the Churchill series. Costello (IIRC) did a good single volume on the PTO. Gordon Prange for Pearl Harbor and Midway. Eisenhower's Crusade in Europe is interesting.

But you do have to narrow the field to get specific recommendations.

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confession - 1/12/2003 9:54:07 AM   
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Status: offline 		I've read Anthony Beevor's "Stalingrad", and it's very good! It covers both the campaign and the battle itself as well as Operation Saturn - the Russian encirclement of the city. Good Stuff. :)

In the pipeline, I've got - "Achtung Panzer" and "Panzer Heroes" by Gen. Guderian on it's way, as well as the assembled "The Rommel Papers" (by Rommel et al.) and "the Road to Stalingrad" by Erickson and "Kursk" in some fancy print that I haven't seen before.

Have someone already read this? (as for the Guderian works, I assume that's the case :p ) Are they worth the money?

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- 1/12/2003 11:25:59 AM   
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Status: offline 		If you're fishing, here's the books I received for Christmas (all autobigraphies/memoirs):

-Panzer Commander by Colonel Hans von Luck
-Soldat by Siefried Knappe
-Panzer Battles by Gen. F.W. von Mellenthin
-Panzer Leader by Gen. Heinz Guderian

The only one I haven't opened yet is Guderian's.
Of the others I thought von Luck's was the best, but they were all very good.

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- 1/12/2003 11:27:44 AM   
Bing

 

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Status: offline 		The Guderian entries are of course classics in their own right, I suppose we can't say we have studied much about armor and armor development unless we HAVE read Guderian.

The Rommel papers are good to have, I've had them for years. For a balanced and thorough Rommel biography, however, I will take the David Fraser "Kinght's Cross". Fraser at times almost goes too far in being "fair", but I like him allowing readers to draw their own conclusions.

Erickson I don't know, the other reference escapes me. Depends upon whether you want to be entertained by a bio or dig into some heavy professional historian's material. a few writers, such as Franks and Hastings, can follow a pretty even line between the two.

For a fine selection of books on war and warfare, get yourself over to Articles of War: http://209.204.189.49/cgi-bin/foxweb.exe/articles/home -- there are other specialty stores, but I've done business with this fellow for years, back when he had a store in Skokie, Illinois. Bob will never tell you he can get a book when he doesn't have it - other booksellers certainly do, I have had to cancel more than one OP order from Barnes & Noble becuase the vendor simply could not deliver.

Why they say they can when they can't I don't know, but Bob never does this.

A very few books can be said to be definitive. I can't imagine anything on the subject of the Pearl Harbor attack or the battle of Midway that is not covered in the respective books by Gordon Prange - the P.H. book is rather amazing in this respect, until you realize he worked on it over a fifteen year period.

For an excellent introduction to everything about Operation Overlord it is hard to beat the book by Max Hastings - I reread this book annually, its that good. Caveat: If you are a fan of General Montgomery, you are not going to like this book. Everything Hastings has to say about Montie is true, it just isn't particularly flattering to his image.

A fine book on the IJN during WW2? Dr. Paul Dull, without question. If you can find it.

We could go on and on and we haven't even mentioned technical reference sources.

Bing

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- 1/12/2003 11:47:42 AM   
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Status: offline 		Chuck yeagers autobiography was very good. The man has certainly lived a full life.

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- 1/12/2003 5:03:25 PM   
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Status: offline 		My recommendations join further suggestions:
- "The forgotten soldier", by Guy Sajer, perhaps it's basied on german side, but the feelings it gave to me are unforgettable, I remember again the assault by t-34.... or the soviet barrages...
- "Stalingrad & The Downfall of Berlin, 1945" by Anthony Beevor, excellent if you search a mix of historic references and interwievs with survivors of the battles.

Regards.

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Re: confession - 1/12/2003 8:00:58 PM   
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Status: offline 		[QUOTE]Originally posted by Belisarius
[B]I've read Anthony Beevor's "Stalingrad", and it's very good! It covers both the campaign and the battle itself as well as Operation Saturn - the Russian encirclement of the city. Good Stuff.
I believe the operation was called Uranus:) I highly recommend Russ Schnieder's"Gotterdammerung 1945 germany's last stand in the east"I've alway's been interested in the last month's of the war and this document's it admirably.As for the pacific Bill Ross's "Iwo Jima"and "Peleilu"are riveting.

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- 1/12/2003 8:41:30 PM   
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Status: offline 		If you're into armor tactics, you must read also "Armored Warfare", by Major General J.F.C. Fuller, it may be hard to get a hold of, but well worth it, it was first published in 1932, but was unpopular with the British, if they had heeded Fullers work...who knows, Guderian, Russia, Czechoslovakia and others did, especially Guderian...The Blitzkrieg was based on fullers teachings, ironic, no?!

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- 1/12/2003 9:11:01 PM   
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For an excellent introduction to everything about Operation Overlord it is hard to beat the book by Max Hastings - I reread this book annually, its that good. Caveat: If you are a fan of General Montgomery, you are not going to like this book. Everything Hastings has to say about Montie is true, it just isn't particularly flattering to his image.
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I'll second that; I got that book last summer after Bing (pretty sure it was him) recommended it in a thread. Hastings' writing style and frequent use of anecdotes make his books very entertaining.

John Erickson's two-book series on Barbarossa (Road to Stalingrad & Road to Berlin) is also a favorite of mine, but reads more like a dry history text.

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Book Recommdations - 1/12/2003 9:40:17 PM   
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Status: offline 		Most of my WWII library is made up of naval titles. Two notable exceptions are:

"The Patton Papers: 1940-1945" by Martin Blumenson (which includes some of Patton's own observations, and is more comprehensive than the popular "Patton: Ordeal and Triumph" by Ladislas Farago), and...

"Death Traps" by Belton Y. Cooper (which documents the misery of the Sherman).

Prefer to read titles that cover specialty or obscure topics not covered by more common titles. Find biographies particularly interesting. Occasionally pickup a title on a specific battle when using a game to study tactics.

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- 1/13/2003 12:20:40 PM   
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Status: offline 		If it is the Pacific theater, I would recommend the following (in no particular order):

* Destroyer Squadron 23: Combat Exploits of Arleigh Burke's Gallant Force, Ken Jones

* US Army in WWII Series: Victory in Papua, Samuel Milner

* US Army in WWII Series: CARTWHEEL - The Reduction of Rabaul, John Miller

* US Army in WWII: Guadalcanal - The First Offensive

* The Shame of Savo, Bruce Loxton w/Chris Coulthard-Clark

* Disaster in the Pacific - New Light on the Battle of Savo Island, Denis and Peggy Warner w/ Sadao Seno

* A Battle History of The Imperial Japanese Navy, Paul S. Dull

* The Naval Battle of Guadalcanal, James W. Grace

* The Battle of Cape Esperance, Charles Cook

* The Battle of Tassafaronga, Capt. (Ret) Rusell Crenshaw

* Guadalcanal: Starvation Island, Eric Hammel

*Guadalcanal: The Carrier Battles, Eric Hammel

* Guadalcanal: Decision at Sea, Eric Hammel

* Guadalcanal: The Definitive Account, Richard B. Frank (my personal favorite on the subject)

* Into the Shadows Furious : The Brutal Battle for New Georgia, Brian Altobello

* No Bended Knee: The Battle for Guadalcanal, Gen. Merrill B. Twining, USMC

* Guadalcanal, Edwin P. Hoyt

* The Glory of the Solomons, Edwin P. Hoyt (A good 1 volume of campaign up the chain after Guadalcanal)

* Savo, Richard Newcomb

* Bloody Ridge: The Battle that Saved Guadalcanal, Michael S. Smith

* South Pacific Destroyer: The Battle for the Solomons from Savo Island to Vella Gulf, Russell S. Crenshaw Jr.

* The Battle of Guadalcanal, Samuel B. Griffith

* Once A Marine, Gen. A. Vandergrift

* Several volumes from S. E. Morison's USN WWII history series.

* Empire in the Balance, H.P. Willmott

* The Barrier and the Javelin, H.P. Willmott

* The Second World War in the Far East, H.P. Willmott


Lord knows, there are hundreds more.

Good luck!

RayM

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Some of my fav:s.. - 1/13/2003 8:23:46 PM   
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Status: offline 		[U]Prisoners of Hope[/U] - Chindits in Burma, written by the commander of 77. Indian Brigade.. cool.

[U]The Rock of Anzio[/U] - Division history of the US 45th Infantry Division... cool.

[U]In Deadly Combat[/U] - Eastern Front through the eyes of a German Pak-gunner, later infanteryman... good one, not the SS or FJ again :)


and for my scandinavian brothers, check out:

[U]17. Divisionen[/U] - The story of the Finnish 17th Div 1941 through -44... it included JR 13 and 61, upcoming movies, need I say more... :D

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- 1/13/2003 10:19:35 PM   
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Status: offline 		RayM"s list of books on PTO is quite good I think. I would add that the Dr. Paul Dull book is unique.

Other books have been writtin on the IJN from the IJN standpoint. But so far as I know only Dull's book was compiled directly from offical IJN records - very few Occidentals can read Jpanaese, even those who were born to it have difficulty with the manguage mode used by the Jpanese military.

Dull ws a Japanese language specialist, also a USMC reserve officer - you get one guess where he was on 12/7/41. After the war he had access to thousands of pages of IJN documents - you would have a difficult time finding anything more "authentic" than his book. I consider it the prime source for info on IJN WW2 Ops.

Jentschura et al is the best IJN technical reference for fighting shps and auxiliaries. Conway's is good, Jentschura is better in most areas, Jane's is fine but usually so overpriced the non-professional can't afford it.

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My personal faves -ground pounding - 1/14/2003 12:42:35 AM   
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Status: offline 		[B]18 Platoon -Sidney Jary MC[/B]. This is THE required reading text at Sandhurst and is about Mr Jary's exploits in NW Europe 1944 as a platton commander and the only PC in his battalion not to be killed or wounded. i've had the privilege to be lectured by Mr Jary and his skills and drills are spot on!!! Absolute cracker!

[B]Quartered Safe Out Here -George MacDonald Fraser. [/B]Once you get past the dialogue, it's a great account of life as an infantryman in the Forgotten Army (14th Burma) as they inflicted the greatest defeat ever suffered by the Japanese armed forces.

[B] Fighting Mad -'Mad' Mike Calvert[/B] OMG! Who da boy?!?! Calvert was a Chindit Brigade Commander who did just about everything. His story is just remarkable-and it doesn't even cover the absolutely sensational stuff he did after the war!

The [B]Tank! series by Ken Tout, director of the Bovington Tank museum -very very funny and very grim account of being a tankie in NW Europe 1944.

[B]The Shirt of Nessus -Constantine Fitzgibbon is a must for anyone interested in the July 6 plot against Hitler

Next on my reading list is [B] Samurai! -Saburo Sakai[/B] and a re-reading of [B] The Scars of War-Hugh McManners[/B]

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Add a few more to the PTO list - 1/14/2003 9:39:18 AM   
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Status: offline 		* Guadalcanal Remembered, Herbert Merillat

* The Navy at Guadalcanal, Stan Smith (from 1963)

* Bloody Friday Off Guadalcanal, Lawerence Cortesi

* The Pacific War, Saburo Ienaga (1978)

* The Rising Sun, John Toland

* The End of The Imperial Japanese Navy, Masanori Ito (English translation, 1962)

* The First South Pacific Campaign: Pacific Fleet Staregy December 1941-June 1942, John B. Lundstrom

* The First Team: Naval Air Combat from Pearl harbor to Midway, John B. Lundstrom

* The First Team and the Guadalacnal Campaign, John B. Lundstrom

* Rising Sun Victorious: The Alternative History of How the Japanese Won the Pacific War (Interesting 'What If' book. There is also a similar book for the ETO and Eastern Front)

* Japan's War: The Great Pacific Conflict, Edwin P. Hoyt

*How They Won the War in the Pacific: Nimitz and His Admirals, Edwin P. Hoyt

* The Fighting Ships of the Rising Sun: The Drama of the Imperial Japanese Navy 1895-1945, Stephen Howarth

* The War with Japan:The Period in the Balance May 1942-October 1943, H.P. Willmott

* The Ghost that Died at Sunda Strait (Story of the USS Houston), W.G. Winslow

Really old stuff:

* Battle Report, Volumes I-V, Commander Walter Karig, et al, published 1944-1949. (Great photos and battle maps)

Vol I: Pearl Harbor to Coral Sea
Vol II: The Atlantic War
Vol III: Pacific War - Middle Phase
Vol IV: The End of an Empire
Vol V: Victory in the Pacific

* The Pacific Campaign - WWII - The US-Japanese Naval War 1941-1945, Dan van der Vat

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- 1/14/2003 10:37:42 AM   
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Status: offline 		I'm almost done with Eric Bergerud's "Fire in the Sky: The Air War in the South Pacific".

It has provided very informative as to the this theater of the Pacific War.

I would recommend it to all of you [U]Uncommon Valor[/U] fans.

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- 1/14/2003 10:43:46 AM   
RayM

 

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- 1/14/2003 11:25:55 PM   
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Status: offline 		RayM - Have you ever been able to locate a copy of the biography of Raizo Tanaka - the IJN Admiral, not the army Tanaka.

Raizo's bio had a limited circulation and as far as I know the the Institute never reprinted it, as they did with the Dr. Paul Dull IJN book.

One can always have a OP - Used bookseller look for it, the problem is they tend to set prices that are way out of line. I made an exception with the 1984 Zaloga book on Red Army WW2 armor, won't be doing that very often.

I check Articles of War pretty regularly, but they never seem to turn up the Tanaka bio.

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- 1/15/2003 8:02:47 AM   
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One can always have a OP - Used bookseller look for it, the problem is they tend to set prices that are way out of line.
Bing [/B][/QUOTE]

Hmm, careful there Bing, I'm a used bookseller!! It's not a question of being out of line, it's just a trade thing, if it's out of print, you either get it from us, or by chance, or not at all, we are just trying to make a living, and I can honestly tell you, you DON'T get rich doing it... We are having a run of the worst years in all of our 22 years in business, we have to sell a hell of a lot of books in a weeks time to make ends meet, so please don't be too hard on us!!!:D :)

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- 1/15/2003 8:36:39 AM   
RayM

 

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Status: offline 		Hello Bing,

Have you got the title? I would be happy to keep a lookout for one.

Warhorse: Never fear, I'm a big used bookstore supporter. My latest finds were hardcopies of first two NIP Willmott books and Lunstrom's The First South Pacific Campaign: Pacific Fleet Staregy December 1941-June 1942. Let the vein healing begin...
Ray

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More suggestions - 1/15/2003 8:56:36 AM   
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Status: offline 		For the Russian Front , my five all-time favorites. They gave me alot of insight before playing AH's Russian Campaign:

* Barbarossa: The Russian-German Conflict 1941-1945

* The Russo-German War 1941-45, Albert Seaton

* Russia at War 1941-1945, Alexander Werth

* The Road to Stalingrad, John Erickson

* The Road to Berlin, John Erickson

For a global perspective:

* A World at War: A Global History of WWII, Gerhard L. Weinberg (1000+ pages)

* The Second World War: A Complete History, Martin Gilbert (800+ pages)

* Total War: Causes and Courses of the Second World War, P. Calvocoressi, G. Wint, and J. Pritchard (1200+ pages) One of my favorites.

* Hitler and Stalin: Parallel Lives, Alan Bullock (1000+ pages) Very interesting concept.

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- 1/15/2003 11:46:38 AM   
Bing

 

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Status: offline 		RayM - I don't know if it has a title other than Raizo Tanaka's name - I think it had a short run, most people not interested in a IJN officer. I meank he wasn't exactly the John Wayne type per Halsey.

He was by all accounts a great naval commander who showed fleet command he could do what they said was impossible. After the defeat at Guadacanal, during which Tanaka led a destroyer command briliantly, he was rewarded with a desk job. The old service maladay: Don't make your superiors look bad, they don't like it and will even up the score when the time is ripe.

Bing

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