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Scale ? Less is More - 8/3/2013 3:14:31 PM   
Wolfe1759


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Status: offline 		Is SC3 going to be the scale (size of map, number of units)of Storm Over Europe or the original SC2/WaW/SOE Fast Play.

Personally I much prefer the scale of the latter but I know I might be in the minority.

If it is the scale of the former ais there any chance of a Fast Play scale campaign as well ?

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RE: Scale ? Less is More - 8/3/2013 3:32:29 PM   
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Status: offline 		What's the matter with a Global scale and then separate theaters? One could play the present global war or choose to play Europe, Pacific, maybe a Med scenario and then there are the fast play campaigns, like East front, DDay, Bulge, etc.

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RE: Scale ? Less is More - 8/3/2013 4:10:30 PM   
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Status: offline 		The hell of scale, is you must make Russia dauntingly hard to invade and occupy, and you must preserve the ability to make vital geographical locations genuinely valid like Gibraltar Malta and Iceland. You need to be able wage a desperate marine assault on a piece of real estate barely worth mention and be able to possess two wretched pieces of land in one hex and for them to actually be different locations able to be held by opponents like as was the case in the South Pacific.

How big the map is, is not my problem, and the last thing I want to be told, is we couldn't have such and such vital piece of terrain, because the map was too small. If the map needs 1000 hexes across to be done right, then I am not willing to indulge a 750 hex wide map.

The key detail in SC3 will be, 'why do I need this game, when I have this other game already and it does the same over all simulation?'. The market has a selection of games out there, they all have their own stumbling blocks the trick will be to make a game that finally gets rid of the stumbling blocks, and be worth the purchase. No one needs yet another not quite there game.

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RE: Scale ? Less is More - 8/3/2013 4:15:24 PM   
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Status: offline 		i buy sc3 only then, when it have a global map. i'll hope with ALL countries and colonies!

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RE: Scale ? Less is More - 8/3/2013 4:34:03 PM   
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Status: offline 		Agreed DSW, it's almost like we need a different map scale to depict the Pacific or any of those notorious island bastions. Perhaps we move our naval forces around in an array of seazones and then when the actual conflict develops we move to a zoomed in smaller operational map for the combat maneuvers? Could you not make it an option for the players to resolve the zonal battle with a quick computer outcome with the comparison of forces or they can choose to fight it out in the time frame of turns within a turn, ie operational turns inside one strategic turn?

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RE: Scale ? Less is More - 8/3/2013 5:57:10 PM   
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Status: offline 		or the countries and colonies have provinces, occupation of province by province, but a global map must have sc3...or additional smaller maps for small map fans (europe, pacific etc.).

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RE: Scale ? Less is More - 8/3/2013 7:48:47 PM   
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Status: offline 		I was under the impression that SC3 will be ETO rather than Global as per SC1 and SC2.

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RE: Scale ? Less is More - 8/3/2013 8:21:05 PM   
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Status: offline 		if it's so, then i'll not buy the game, i hate games only with eto...

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RE: Scale ? Less is More - 8/3/2013 8:47:07 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Wolfe

I was under the impression that SC3 will be ETO rather than Global as per SC1 and SC2.


I think I read that also; just ETO. But, that may be the initial plan and then expand into the PTO and Global.
-Robert

< Message edited by Robert24 -- 8/3/2013 8:50:59 PM >

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RE: Scale ? Less is More - 8/3/2013 10:43:59 PM   
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Status: offline 		have sc3 a global map or not?

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RE: Scale ? Less is More - 8/4/2013 2:19:44 PM   
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Status: offline 		It is going to be the ETO.

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RE: Scale ? Less is More - 8/4/2013 2:46:23 PM   
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Status: offline 		If they do make global, I hope the they can make the map much bigger than the SC2 global map. Twice the size would be nice, if it's feasible.

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RE: Scale ? Less is More - 8/4/2013 3:41:36 PM   
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Status: offline 		This would make sense, as this is the way SC started. We get ETO and work out the glitches and then the expansions come later. It's a timely exercise of success. Been there done that!

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RE: Scale ? Less is More - 8/4/2013 6:19:20 PM   
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ORIGINAL: TR

If they do make global, I hope the they can make the map much bigger than the SC2 global map. Twice the size would be nice, if it's feasible.


SC WW2: Assault on Democracy (for SC Global Gold) has "New Global Map with 5X (!!!) more playing tiles (484X200)"

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