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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 7/22/2013 3:38:55 PM   
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Status: offline 		Moose, I think in today's legal environment that some random judge would just make up a new section of the Constitution regarding secession.

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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 7/22/2013 3:58:01 PM   
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Moose, I think in today's legal environment that some random judge would just make up a new section of the Constitution regarding secession.


Well, I don't see a smiley. I hope that's not what you really believe. Despite my own sometime frustration with the Supreme Court it continues to be far and away the most solid and functional piece of the federal government.

Judges do all sorts of squirrelly things, for awhile. Just last week a Michigan judge in the Detroit bankruptcy matter "ordered" the federal Bankruptcy Court to do something (or not do something as I believe it was a simple TRO without memorandum of law attached.) Some are arguing that the judge's statement was mere dicta; others that she vastly overstepped into the swamps of federal subject matter jurisdiction. What is likely to happen is the Bankruptcy Court will just ignore her, as one does a buzzing mosquito.

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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 7/22/2013 4:08:10 PM   
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Moose, I think in today's legal environment that some random judge would just make up a new section of the Constitution regarding secession.


Well, I don't see a smiley. I hope that's not what you really believe. Despite my own sometime frustration with the Supreme Court it continues to be far and away the most solid and functional piece of the federal government.

Judges do all sorts of squirrelly things, for awhile. Just last week a Michigan judge in the Detroit bankruptcy matter "ordered" the federal Bankruptcy Court to do something (or not do something as I believe it was a simple TRO without memorandum of law attached.) Some are arguing that the judge's statement was mere dicta; others that she vastly overstepped into the swamps of federal subject matter jurisdiction. What is likely to happen is the Bankruptcy Court will just ignore her, as one does a buzzing mosquito.

No smiley, as it's only half tongue in cheek. Not speaking specifically about the Supreme Court, either, although as you say they've had their moments.

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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 7/22/2013 6:12:19 PM   
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... the Supreme Court it continues to be far and away the most solid and functional piece of the federal government.


Even better than the Post Office?

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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 7/22/2013 6:56:36 PM   
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... the Supreme Court it continues to be far and away the most solid and functional piece of the federal government.


Even better than the Post Office?


They're independent and have been for decades. I know they're the butt of a lot of jokes, but my interactions with them for many years has been great. They have some of the best-trained and helpful counter people of any business I see. Transit times for mail are a fraction of what I saw as a kid. Anything over two days is pretty rare, even to rural Montana.

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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 7/22/2013 7:46:24 PM   
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Status: offline 		A good article making the battle real through personal stories Dan. I like this manner of teaching history, to supplement the dry facts of the military maneuvers. The poetry ain't half bad neither!

BTW, is the typo the missing "m" in the line "As if old Scratch had been after the" ? If not, I think I found one for you!

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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 7/22/2013 7:47:30 PM   
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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 7/23/2013 1:08:25 AM   
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Status: offline 		Very interesting info Moose, I suppose that if it happened now lee would march with 100,000 men and 200,000 Lawyers!

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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 7/23/2013 11:46:32 PM   
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Great song, and still true today.

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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 8/1/2013 5:08:44 AM   
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We're in the midst of John's four week sabbatical from the game, but he decided to do the turn I sent him about 18 days ago. So this may be the only update until sometime in mid August, unless John finds himself pining for the game in a big way. That's possible.

KB: The Japanese carriers are at Padang, a level one port, and I think flew a fourth-straight day of Kate missions vs. the Allied troops at Medan. This is important analysis time - I don't think John can replenish sorites at Padang no matter what units and ships he has there, but I could be wrong. If he can't, KB is down to about 60% sorties or so, I'd guestimate.

Allied Carriers: The Allied carriers are 13 hexes north of Sabang (while the KB is 15 hexes south), escorting a massive supply and reinforcement convoy inbound to Sabang. I'm not sure what to do: Option A (my preferred option) is to send all the ships closer to Sabang, but I'm leery of the proximity of the KB. Do I chance a sprint towards Sabang knowing that Allied LBA fighters will lend a hand? Option B (fairly low on the list) is to raid Port Blair, which is 12 hexes to the east, in order to apply the coup de grace to BB Mutsu. Port Blair has alot of enemy LBA, but has also been repeatedly hit by Allied 4EB. I think the airfield can still support offensive missions, so why take a chance on a few Betties clearing the CAP and putting a fish into one or more carriers? Option C is to hang back a bit to see if John is aggressive with KB (possibily indicating sorties are replenished). It's possible John will retire KB to Batavia to replenish, opening all kinds of doors. This is a major decision. Not sure what I'll do yet.

Sumatra on the Ground: The Allies (Indians and Americans) finally take Medan. The sadly depleted 27th USA Div. will remain there (she's highly prepped for the target). 1st Marines and the Indian Div. will advance one hex towards Tandjoen to get into the jungle terrain, which should help dampen enemy bombardment runs. 32nd Div., which is highly prepped for Langsa, will retire to that basse to begin rest and recovery. 10th IJA Div. brushed aside weak opposition and will move into Sibolga, joining the weakened 2nd IJA Div. I hope these units will have a tough time trying to evict the three RCT of 37th USA Div.

Sumatra at Sea and in the Air: A fairly quiet day, though Ching Lee's cruisers bombard Victoria Point and sink an incoming AMC.

Situation in Total: With the fall of Medan, today was very good for the Allies. A key question at this point is what does John do with the KB? If those carriers retire to Batavia, the Allies are going to reap a harvest. I think the Allied carriers would then cover the supply/reinforcements ships for the few days it would take to get to Sabang. Then, in all likelihood, the carriers would hit Port Blair.

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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 8/1/2013 5:33:41 AM   
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Status: offline 		Can't KB replenish from an AKE/AE at Padang? Do you have any recon there?

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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 8/12/2013 7:08:57 PM   
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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 8/12/2013 7:49:14 PM   
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John did indicate he'd be "back in the saddle" as of the 12th. I haven't spoken to him in several weeks, but I plan to finish up the turn and send it to him today. I'm still exactly in the same place I was when I last posted (I haven't looked at the turn file since then): I'm trying to figure out whether to move my carriers towards Sabang, chancing a similar move of the enemy carriers, or whether to hang back until the situation clarifies. I don't want a general carrier engagement right now, so the stakes are high.

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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 8/12/2013 9:15:06 PM   
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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 8/13/2013 2:43:32 AM   
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Status: offline 		I think we're going to indefinitely suspend this game. My email to John about resuming the game elicited a lukewarm response about starting in a week or so. I was already teetering on the edge of "I'm not sure I want to pick it back up," so I think this is it unless or until something shakes us out of our lethargies. I'm okay with this.

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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 8/13/2013 2:49:32 AM   
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"I'm not sure I want to pick it back up,"


Why not?

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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 8/13/2013 3:09:07 AM   
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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 8/13/2013 8:46:58 AM   
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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 8/13/2013 8:48:07 AM   
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More for you than for us!

It has to be said that I've been reading your AAR's since I joined the community a couple of years ago, and its only the game v Chez that I thought "Yup, thats game over" before they ended.

It would be nice for you (and us!) if one went a bit further!

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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 8/13/2013 4:13:36 PM   
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"I'm not sure I want to pick it back up,"


Why not?


Since I am addicted to the game it takes me a LONG time to wean myself off the narcotic. In this case, the enforced absence of five weeks has done the trick. I'm not sure I want to resume the addiction.

I'm like the old lady morphine fiend in To Kill a Mockingbird. She decides she's not going to face the end of life still addicted, so she self-weans by setting a clock each day. Jem Finch goes over to read to her during the intervals, which get longer each day. Finally, she kicks the habit. (Jem didn't like the lady, but was forced to do the chore after decapitating the flowers in her garden after she said ugly things about Atticus.) Is this analogy too farfetched? Too long? Too uninteresting? To attenuated? Too annuated?

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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 8/13/2013 4:24:00 PM   
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Rubbish, pure rubbish! Believe me, my friend, there is nothing--absolute nothing--half so much worth doing as simply messing about in WitP.

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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 8/13/2013 5:13:53 PM   
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Status: offline 		I can understand that sentiment, canoe, but the problem is... how can the rest of us live vicariously through your addiction if you get clean? In all seriousness, I think you should do whatever you think is best. We will survive.

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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 8/13/2013 5:19:29 PM   
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Status: offline 		I don't think the game is over in all likelihood. Mainly, I don't want to be in a game with an unwilling and reluctant opponent. John's "body language" in yesterday's email intimated that he just didn't have time for the game and wasn't really into it. I'd rather wait until his enthusiasm returns. If it doesn't, so be it.

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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 8/13/2013 5:36:07 PM   
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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 8/13/2013 8:44:26 PM   
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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 8/13/2013 9:00:45 PM   
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As witpqs says, as predicted.

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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 8/13/2013 9:06:31 PM   
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"I'm not sure I want to pick it back up,"


Why not?


Since I am addicted to the game it takes me a LONG time to wean myself off the narcotic. In this case, the enforced absence of five weeks has done the trick. I'm not sure I want to resume the addiction.

I'm like the old lady morphine fiend in To Kill a Mockingbird. She decides she's not going to face the end of life still addicted, so she self-weans by setting a clock each day. Jem Finch goes over to read to her during the intervals, which get longer each day. Finally, she kicks the habit. (Jem didn't like the lady, but was forced to do the chore after decapitating the flowers in her garden after she said ugly things about Atticus.) Is this analogy too farfetched? Too long? Too uninteresting? To attenuated? Too annuated?


Alright, to continue with the heroin analogy...

Can you look into a Methadone clinic? Get "just enough" treatment to slake the thirst, the visceral cry for heroin, but not be miserable with the side effects of going cold turkey?

If you don't re-engage soon, do you see this as the end of your gameplay with AE? If not, then do you have a time in mind for re-engaging or restarting a game?

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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 8/13/2013 9:16:36 PM   
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Status: offline 		I'm sure someone would be willing to take over... It should probably be someone good at logistics though as they're probably super-ignored in the focus on sparkly, explody stuff.

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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 8/13/2013 9:36:15 PM   
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Status: offline 		Out of fairness, I ought to stress that John's email yesterday invited me to send a turn by the weekend. So it's not him that has requested the suspension of the game. It was me, based upon my evaluation of his email, in which I detected a marked lack of enthusiasm for the contest. I think there's a fair chance that the game will resume when things settle down, though I'm okay if it doesn't.

To answer Chickenboy's question, I'll continue my indefinite and undefined sabbatical in the short term. If the game doesn't resume, eventually I'll have to decide whether the sabbatical is permanent or not. I suspect it won't be - the game holds a powerful allure, as we all know.

In the meantime, I'll try to be as productive as possible at work so that when winter comes and the days are short, dark and wet, I can succumb to said urge to resume the game or start a new one. Maybe.

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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 8/13/2013 9:38:49 PM   
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I'll try to be as productive as possible at work


Eesh! Don't do it, Canoerebel! You've got the DTs, man, don't do it!

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