Slitherine

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ORIGINAL: Sgt_Rock

The lesson I got from this game is this: If you plan on doing your own computer game you had better get it done so that it fits into the existing MS operating system OR the one that comes just after it.

Has this game been tested on Windows 8? Some of us would like to hear about that.

The other lesson is: if you put together a team and the game is not out within three years or less you had better have guys waiting in the wings to help out. I am not sure if folks have dropped that were key personnel on this project but to ask someone to stick with it as long as this one has been on the burner (8 years based on this thread) you had either have to have been mentally unbalanced or smoking pot!

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ORIGINAL: Neilster

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ORIGINAL: Numdydar

If that is really your girlfriend, why are you spending time posting here

She was my girlfriend back when I was playing cardboard WiF in the early 90s. Maybe I would have gotten more WiF done if she wasn't

Lovely girl...we're still friends and she doesn't look much different. She took after Aunty Bronnie, and not her Mum, as it turns out

She's a doctor in Sydney now. I really screwed that one up eh?

Mind you; there have been a few unofficial...err...reunions

Cheers, Neilster

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ORIGINAL: CrusssDaddy

Steve is not going to complete this game, not even a nerfed no-A.I. version. It simply is not going to happen - it's okay to admit the inevitable, doing so is simply an admission of the facts, the steepening trajectory of non-development, and not a slam on Steve. The best case scenario is that Failtrix puts an actual team on the job, but that is unlikely because they clearly don't give a ****. I mean guys, seriously... when you clear away the good wishes and hopeful thoughts and high regard for hard work and our enthusiasm for WiF itself, whats left? Do you have a line at which the importance of results jumps ahead of everything else?

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ORIGINAL: CrusssDaddy

Am I out of line to lack cheer re: your progress after nearly a decade of work? If you were looking for another job, would this go on your resume? The basket beneath the guillotine is spilling over with victims of the chopping block: scenarios cut to a ridiculous handful, no A.I., optional rules missing... I'm sure there's more I haven't bothered to remember? The graphics are atrocious. There is no shame (well, perhaps a little) in admitting you bit off more than you could chew, and that Matrixster's support and dedication to this project has been abysmal.

You preside over a failure, partially of your own making and having nothing to do with recent health woes. Perhaps it's time to step away? Or have you lashed yourself to the wheel?

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ORIGINAL: CrusssDaddy

I do not think a game that is substantively different than CWiF will be completed by the current regime. I think you will certainly, at some point, receive this hobbyist project called MWiF that includes different but not particularly better graphics, a couple extra scenarios and some bugs removed. Oh, and some unit write-ups cut 'n' pasted from Wikipedia. The most endearing feature of the original, the Debug Mode that allows you to create your own scenarios or alter games in mid play, isn't even available on this new version.

England expects that every man will do his duty. Horatio Nelson October 1805

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ORIGINAL: warspite1

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ORIGINAL: CrusssDaddy

I do not think a game that is substantively different than CWiF will be completed by the current regime. I think you will certainly, at some point, receive this hobbyist project called MWiF that includes different but not particularly better graphics, a couple extra scenarios and some bugs removed. Oh, and some unit write-ups cut 'n' pasted from Wikipedia. The most endearing feature of the original, the Debug Mode that allows you to create your own scenarios or alter games in mid play, isn't even available on this new version.

warspite1

Hey saddo - Neilster asked - as have others before - why you are still here given all the rubbish you have to say about the project, the fact the game is not for you and you do not intend to buy it when it comes out.

Why not do something productive with your sad existence instead of being a figure of unintended fun on this forum? In short why not get a life?

Alternatively, if you are to stay around, instead of boring us all rigid, why not think of something either funny or interesting to say for once

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ORIGINAL: CrusssDaddy

When you clench your fist and "talk to your girlfriend" do you draw a mouth in with lipstick, or is your imagination sufficient to carry the ruse?

Keep those pix coming -- it's a new day and Warspite is looking for another thrill!

Okay, let's get back on topic -- just how long does 0.1% take to complete anyway?!?!?

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ORIGINAL: CrusssDaddy

Does taking about it make you feel better? You're going on a bit, but I'll keep listening. Not for much longer, mind you.

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ORIGINAL: pochepiller

For as much as I would like to follow on this ex-girlfriend discussion what I really want to know is WHEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm not a big wargamer but I dig every WW2 game and I can't wait to buy this and get destroyed in PBEM, so when? 2014? 2015?

David
Québec
Canada

P.S. I also think that Crussdaddy criticism of the current state of Matrix WiF is valid and should not be this rebuked like this.

Sorry for my bad english.

England expects that every man will do his duty. Horatio Nelson October 1805

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ORIGINAL: warspite1

So before leaping to the defence of this moronic individual, I suggest you read some of his accusations and comments first.

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ORIGINAL: CrusssDaddy

I do not think a game that is substantively different than CWiF will be completed by the current regime. I think you will certainly, at some point, receive this hobbyist project called MWiF that includes different but not particularly better graphics, a couple extra scenarios and some bugs removed. Oh, and some unit write-ups cut 'n' pasted from Wikipedia. The most endearing feature of the original, the Debug Mode that allows you to create your own scenarios or alter games in mid play, isn't even available on this new version.

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ORIGINAL: pochepiller

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ORIGINAL: warspite1

So before leaping to the defence of this moronic individual, I suggest you read some of his accusations and comments first.

Ok I touched a nerve. I wont read all the board history to know how soulless Crussdaddy is and I didn't defend his action in my last post at all. I was refering to his recent critic of the game there:

England expects that every man will do his duty. Horatio Nelson October 1805

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ORIGINAL: pochepiller

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ORIGINAL: warspite1

So before leaping to the defence of this moronic individual, I suggest you read some of his accusations and comments first.

Ok I touched a nerve. I wont read all the board history to know how soulless Crussdaddy is and I didn't defend his action in my last post at all. I was refering to his recent critic of the game there:

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ORIGINAL: CrusssDaddy

I do not think a game that is substantively different than CWiF will be completed by the current regime. I think you will certainly, at some point, receive this hobbyist project called MWiF that includes different but not particularly better graphics, a couple extra scenarios and some bugs removed. Oh, and some unit write-ups cut 'n' pasted from Wikipedia. The most endearing feature of the original, the Debug Mode that allows you to create your own scenarios or alter games in mid play, isn't even available on this new version.

The game takes a long time and there's reason for it but now the same question is still there: WHEN?
Do anyone can ballpark the date of release, ( the PBEM release, AI will never be good at this kind of game I think).


2014? 2015? 2016?

David
Québec
Canada

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ORIGINAL: warspite1

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ORIGINAL: pochepiller

For as much as I would like to follow on this ex-girlfriend discussion what I really want to know is WHEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm not a big wargamer but I dig every WW2 game and I can't wait to buy this and get destroyed in PBEM, so when? 2014? 2015?

David
Québec
Canada

P.S. I also think that Crussdaddy criticism of the current state of Matrix WiF is valid and should not be this rebuked like this.

Sorry for my bad english.

warspite1

pochepiller, everyone is entitled to their own opinion - and that includes Crusssdaddy. Matrix make their forums open to people and of course that means good press and not so good press will get aired. That is their choice and fair enough. No one is saying he cannot air his opinion (within the bounds of forum rules and decency).

However I fear you have rather missed the point.

The game is taking a looooong time in development. I am sure that this is a source of frustration for everyone from Steve to Matrix to ADG to the beta testers and to the fans of the game.

However, there are reasons for these delays, they are well known and in the real world, they are what they are e.g. the economics of the market, health, technical resources. They don't make the situation any less frustrating, but they are understandable.

Where you are quite wrong about this childlike, mindless, troll is that he fails to see reality. He started off annoyed at the time being taken (no problem, as said, aren't we all?). But he then moved to conspiracy theories about Matrix actually not wanting the game to come out. He droned on about how there were hundreds of gaming companies who would snap this project up tomorrow, throw unlimited amounts of money at the project, and get the game done yesterday. These companies were being denied purposely by the evil Matrix corporation.

He then moved on to personal attacks, particularly against Steve (a despicable position to take given Steve's serious health issues) and anyone who understood the Matrix position.

He has now upped his game further by, for the first time, launching attacks on people just for the hell of it. As far as I know Neilster has never said anything against this idiot troll before the recent shenanigans.

So before leaping to the defence of this moronic individual, I suggest you read some of his accusations and comments first.

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ORIGINAL: Shannon V. OKeets

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ORIGINAL: pochepiller

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ORIGINAL: warspite1

So before leaping to the defence of this moronic individual, I suggest you read some of his accusations and comments first.

Ok I touched a nerve. I wont read all the board history to know how soulless Crussdaddy is and I didn't defend his action in my last post at all. I was refering to his recent critic of the game there:

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ORIGINAL: CrusssDaddy

I do not think a game that is substantively different than CWiF will be completed by the current regime. I think you will certainly, at some point, receive this hobbyist project called MWiF that includes different but not particularly better graphics, a couple extra scenarios and some bugs removed. Oh, and some unit write-ups cut 'n' pasted from Wikipedia. The most endearing feature of the original, the Debug Mode that allows you to create your own scenarios or alter games in mid play, isn't even available on this new version.

The game takes a long time and there's reason for it but now the same question is still there: WHEN?
Do anyone can ballpark the date of release, ( the PBEM release, AI will never be good at this kind of game I think).


2014? 2015? 2016?

David
Québec
Canada

Responding to CxxxDxxx is almost always a worthless expenditure of time and effort. He chooses arguments randomly and hopes that someone responds to what he says. The post by him that you quoted has all those earmarks. In it, each of his statements could be contradicted by hundreds, if not thousands, of previous posts in this forum. My personal posts on MWIF are getting close to 16,000, so you could restrict your search to just my posts and probably come up with hundreds of examples why each of his statements is manifestly wrong. In this example, he is the classic definition of a troll - someone who posts not to accomplish anything good, but just to provoke a response from others so he can gleefully continue to harass them verbally.

Several years ago I swore off giving estimated release dates. In retrospect, that was a very good decision. My monthly status reports provide the best indication of when the game will be released. I post them in two threads: this one, and an identical post in MWIF Monthly Reports. Only I can post to the latter thread, so it doesn't have all the commentary that this one does. Many people prefer to just read my monthly report there, and skip all the other stuff. Your choice.

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ORIGINAL: CrusssDaddy

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ORIGINAL: warspite1

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ORIGINAL: pochepiller

For as much as I would like to follow on this ex-girlfriend discussion what I really want to know is WHEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm not a big wargamer but I dig every WW2 game and I can't wait to buy this and get destroyed in PBEM, so when? 2014? 2015?

David
Québec
Canada

P.S. I also think that Crussdaddy criticism of the current state of Matrix WiF is valid and should not be this rebuked like this.

Sorry for my bad english.

warspite1

pochepiller, everyone is entitled to their own opinion - and that includes Crusssdaddy. Matrix make their forums open to people and of course that means good press and not so good press will get aired. That is their choice and fair enough. No one is saying he cannot air his opinion (within the bounds of forum rules and decency).

However I fear you have rather missed the point.

The game is taking a looooong time in development. I am sure that this is a source of frustration for everyone from Steve to Matrix to ADG to the beta testers and to the fans of the game.

However, there are reasons for these delays, they are well known and in the real world, they are what they are e.g. the economics of the market, health, technical resources. They don't make the situation any less frustrating, but they are understandable.

Where you are quite wrong about this childlike, mindless, troll is that he fails to see reality. He started off annoyed at the time being taken (no problem, as said, aren't we all?). But he then moved to conspiracy theories about Matrix actually not wanting the game to come out. He droned on about how there were hundreds of gaming companies who would snap this project up tomorrow, throw unlimited amounts of money at the project, and get the game done yesterday. These companies were being denied purposely by the evil Matrix corporation.

He then moved on to personal attacks, particularly against Steve (a despicable position to take given Steve's serious health issues) and anyone who understood the Matrix position.

He has now upped his game further by, for the first time, launching attacks on people just for the hell of it. As far as I know Neilster has never said anything against this idiot troll before the recent shenanigans.

So before leaping to the defence of this moronic individual, I suggest you read some of his accusations and comments first.

Just FYI I know you're not purposefully trying to hurt my feelings, but this came off as very slightly disrespectful and I'm a little bummed out :(

England expects that every man will do his duty. Horatio Nelson October 1805

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ORIGINAL: pochepiller

I wish to stay on the topic warspite1, which is WHEN! I understand Mr. O'keets points of not making an estimate but it doesnt answer my question at all and yes I read all those recent monthly report. I just think that somewhere you have to say a fix date so you can finish it, because if not you can always find some thing to improve ( Gran Turismo 5 is a exemple of this happening ). So do we talk about 3 months or 18 months?

WHEN!!!!!!

I will buy the game if it comes out and after 3 years of following those thread I'm just not sure if it will come out. I don't have any friend to play table Wif so its an itch I can't scratch.

David
Québec