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REsources Stalled in Shadows Game!! - 8/24/2013 4:00:01 PM   
CrankMan

 

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Hello All

Im in need of help big time!! Im playing the new Shadows as an Empire and struggling to get resources flowing to my various starbases and colonies!!

Ive set teh galaxy to huge with lots of space to manuver with only 5 other races.

I have huge amounts of stockpiled resources but the private sector is just not moving them!!??!!

Thus I am getting constant warnings in popups about shortages.... when I have tons of the required resources sitting there and listed as acquired?

I have a few huge pirate bases close by and one very active..?? could they be raiding my private sector haulers to a crawl?

I tried to shut them down but my fleet was soundly defeated.

How do I get resources moving Help??
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RE: REsources Stalled in Shadows Game!! - 8/24/2013 4:10:56 PM   
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I for one think it's a bit bugged.
Right now, I'm in a game, and I've been keeping constant eye on a specific Star Base (found not at a colony) for it's construction development. It's building 3 freighters.

It's stuck for years on shortages of Tyderios, Carbon Fiber, Polymer and Aculon.

First of all, I haven't seen any Aculon brought in, but, lets say my freighters just didn't get around to it being busy with other demands. But I've seen a pretty big ammount of Tyderios, Carbon Fiber, and some Polymer being brought in. The construction doesn't move an INCH. 85%, 95%, 88%. For years, after maybe 10k of the specified resources. The stockpile isn' filling up either. The resources brought in just.. vanished! They're not in stock on the star base, and haven't contributed to the construction at all. Could it be put aside somewhere until the Aculon is brought in? Maybe. I'll keep watching. But I think it's kind of bugged.
My other spaceports seem to be doing fine though.

Secondly... I do have a bit of the required resources, those that the Star Base is in shortage of, but they're "Reserved"
In my observations, Reserved usually means that it's waiting to be picked up by a freighter. But no freighter has come to pick it up in years. It just stands there, not contributing to construction, and not being picked up. This is really annoying.

Please note that the resources brought in of this 4 resources do not contribute to either of the normal stock or reserved stock.
As I said, it's like it simply disappears.

I really hope it's just waiting for Aculon. :S

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RE: REsources Stalled in Shadows Game!! - 8/24/2013 4:18:40 PM   
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WOW.

After writing my above post I said, hey, how are the rest of the resources at this star base going? The ones not in shortage of.
Guess what, NO resources are dropped off. They just disappear.

Freighters keep coming, transporting different goods, some not even needed at the moment.
They are on the freighter (I checked every time). => The freighter Docks. => Freighter now empty. => Stock of that resource on the start base is the same as before the freighter docked.

Only thing I can think of to fix this is to scrap the damn star base.

NOTE FOR DEVELOPERS. I don't recollect exactly, but this might have been a captured base. Through boarding. Maybe that broke it?

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RE: REsources Stalled in Shadows Game!! - 8/24/2013 4:31:17 PM   
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This should be move to the Technical Support thread.

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RE: REsources Stalled in Shadows Game!! - 8/25/2013 11:40:51 AM   
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I guess, boarded pirate bases (as space ports) do not work, because they lack a planet where the ressouces are stored. As the room on space stations is never big enough, the storage seems to involve only storing prebuild components for construction ships and get the docked ressources, then everything is brought to the planet colony with indefinite space. Pirate bases have no colony, which is why they cannot be retrofitted as well. Therefore I never board them at all but instead destroy and build things new.

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RE: REsources Stalled in Shadows Game!! - 8/25/2013 2:37:46 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: CrankMan
How do I get resources moving Help??


Well freighters are still not the smartest. For example if I were to found a new colony, I would send large freighters along carrying all the resources needed for it's first space port. Here are some tips though:

1) Equip freighers with a lot of thrusters and vectors so that IF they actually do something meaningful, they do it fast and get faster to doing the next job.

2) Equip freighters with enough cargo space and increase that slowly as the game progresses so that IF they actually do something meaningful, they do it like a boss ;-)

3) Get a spaceport at EVERY colony. Only build very small space ports to begin with. But they act as a hub for resources to be dropped and picked up. Also, they provide construction yards for private ships.

4) Don't put stuff on freighters that they do not really need. That will only cause them to need longer to be built. For example no weapons, minimum shields, no armor, no weapons.

5) Don't expand too fast. The private sector needs it's time to adjust to the new layout of your empire.

6) Use your resources economically. Don't build stuff / components you don't really need. What's not needed ain't gonna need to be shipped by the private sector.

7) Build mining stations for basic resources such as steel close to most of your colonies so they get self sufficient at least to a certain degree.

8) Get advanced hyperdrive tech quickly. Needless to say that increasing private sector ship speed for space traveling helps a lot.

9) Regularly check for hot spots where the private sector picks up a ton of stuff. If you see a colony with a ton of private sector ships all around you probably need a bigger space port there or at least more docking bays. You want to speed up the private sector in every way possible. Faster docking tech also helps.

Overall I think we will forever see resource shortages in this game. Even for a really huge empire with a lot of mines / freighters / space ports there are shortages because the AI cannot look ahead to your needs. If we would be allowed to control freighters manually we would think ahead and ship necessary resources to where we want to build something in the future. The AI however only starts reacting as soon as you give the build order.

< Message edited by mstWeal -- 8/25/2013 2:56:18 PM >

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RE: REsources Stalled in Shadows Game!! - 8/25/2013 3:51:34 PM   
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I scout planets for the resources i need and click the planet for a future mining station. I take notes for this purpose. Also I agree with the above, dont expand your empire to quickly. Build construction ships. I build up to 6 in the early years and as things expand i build more. But yup, just like on our planet, resources will always be short. I had a 12 ship fleet take 15 years to retrofit at a base on the outer part of my empire. I build mining stations at these bases now and things are ok.
Cheers

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