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12-9-42 - 8/24/2013 11:11:37 PM

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Combat Report
December 9, 1942

Not nearly the excitement of last turn this day.

I'll just touch on the action:

Sumatra
Near Sibolga
The troops kicked out yesterday get hit by 4 raids doing damage to the refugees.

Sibolga
A Fast TF begins unloading 3 Engineering units. Three more TF arrive tomorrow to unload as well.

The 38th ID is one day out of Horn Island coming. ETA: 10 Days.

Tand???
A 5th DD joins the four and they are ordered to move up the coast above Langsa probing for enemy TF traffic. Musashi, 2 CA, 1 CL, and 6 DD retire to Singapore for a day to replenish and refuel before a quick return. Have 20,000 supply unloading quite slowly here since the Port is only Sz-1

Malaya
50,72
This hex west of Alor Star has three Japanese air strikes arrive and hit the pair of units present. The 3 Thai Brigades attack and score a 1-3 (32-105). Casualties are light and we'll attack again after a day off. This should start to raise the disruption of these Allied unit because 48th ID shall CRUSH them when it arrives in the hex.

Victoria Point
Engineers are rapidly repairing the AB and is should be fully operational in two days. I've set the Vals and Kates to Range 6 for attacks. It just happens to be too far away from the Allied fighters at Sabang. Ahhhhh...this is just too bad. As long as bad weather doesn't impact an attack day we should be pretty solid here.

Georgetown
My 4 DD TF sweeps the area and doesn't catch anything as a ML TF drops off another 60 mines here.

Burma
A single Allied unit Shock Attacks my ID east of Ramree and gets a 1-99 result. WE gain a nice bonus of 1901 Allied Cas and 60 Guns for the effort.

He is moving back onto the Northern Burma Plains two Hexes NE of Magwe. A Brigade plus another unit moves out of the jungle. 2nd Armored has already moved to the east side of the Irrawaddy and will join 12th ID in a joint attck CRUSHING them.

His advance towards Ramree and Prome appears to have completely STOPPED. Dan probably realizes his danger and that I will not retreat until I--literally--have to. Bet he expected that to happen when I pulled two ID out of the fight here and sent them to help in Malaya.

Port Blair
Three 4EB raids occur involving 27 total Liberators and B-17s. They are met by a little over 40 Fighters. Little damage is done to the AF while we manage to bag 3 in ATA and 3 more when they crash landing at home. A Convoy is loading 5 AA units at Moulmein and will move to unload them in two days at Blair. No supplies and all the ships are lightly loaded so this should be done in one day. We'll see if all those AA guns might just help the cause.

China
Launch a 3 ID attack at 76,53 but get a weak 1-2 result. Will wait for another ID and then try again. Want to clear that railroad!

KB
The CVs move south of Ceylon and sink a LONE AM two hexes south of the island.

I shifted two Chutai of Kates to air search for this turn and FIVE of them impale themselves on Columbo's CAP. Four Jakes do the SAME thing. Drives one NUTS. Guess I'll do a sector search when I come back into this area next time.

Order KB to move SW towards Diego Garcia and then retire to refuel and head for the barn.

Here is a shot of that Shock Attack and the Allied units east of Ramree:

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KB 12-9 - 8/24/2013 11:22:03 PM

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Here is location and direction for tomorrows movement. The second arrow reflects the AOs coming up for fuel. A little nervous bringing them up like this but do need the fuel.

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Sumatra - 8/24/2013 11:29:05 PM

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Here is northern Sumatra.

The red arrows note troop movement. 14th ID moves back towards Tand??? while a surviving Naval Garrison unit moves towards the west coast to get rebuild.

Over in Malaya once can see the pincers closing in on Alor Star. I WANT those three units stranded here. The 18th ID, 99th Indian Brigade, and a US TK Bn would be very nice to add to the unit KILLED summary. Once we retake Alor Star, then 48th ID loves to Sumatra. The Inf Brigade will begin prepping for Sinabang.

To answer Michael's question, Nias has elements of 5 units in it. No base growth at all. Sinabang has 4 units and is DITTO regarding expansion. Each has between 4-6,000 troops by recon estimate:

Nias is first. I have an Army Brigade and SNLF Assault Brigade prepping to land here.

Will begin ship bombardment within the next couple of turns.

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Air Production - 8/24/2013 11:50:31 PM

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This might be an interesting screen for one to look at:

MISTER George is gonna get here FAST!

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Ship Production - 8/24/2013 11:53:30 PM

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Here is what builds for the Kaigun:

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RE: Ship Production - 8/25/2013 12:40:46 PM

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I would micro-manage the acceleration of the three '43 CV to come in together. Then, work on getting pairs of the Unryus to come in together. I hope you are planning on doing it this way.

What about the Ki-44-IIc?? The "b" model is any good, so I move my R&D through here quickly. japan needs lots of SR1 airframes and the Tojos are great in that role.

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RE: Ship Production - 8/25/2013 2:32:42 PM

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I would micro-manage the acceleration of the three '43 CV to come in together. Then, work on getting pairs of the Unryus to come in together. I hope you are planning on doing it this way.

What about the Ki-44-IIc?? The "b" model is any good, so I move my R&D through here quickly. japan needs lots of SR1 airframes and the Tojos are great in that role.

I am attempting to bring in the three Sho-Kai within a month of each other. The Unryu's I want in groups of three as well.

LOVE the Tojo and will do that. Now that I am getting my feet underneath me with the Sumatra situation I may be able to divert some effort to moving "b" forward.

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RE: Ship Production - 8/25/2013 2:41:27 PM

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In a previous test game I've had my research change to production and move over, not catching it in time, and then have to start from scratch on the R n D for the IIb model since I had no recent save and didn't want to go back.

Did you have something like that happen with the Tojo?

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RE: Ship Production - 8/25/2013 3:01:31 PM

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YEP! Stupid.

Always amazing what the 'little' mistakes can do to cause issues in this game...

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Double Secret Academic Probation - 8/25/2013 4:25:38 PM

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Just got the 12-10 turn done. NOTHING much happened. Will detail when back from church.

I have done recon three days in a row over Diego Garcia.

Decision Made; TARGET DIEGO GARCIA. An invasion attempt shall be made.

I have got to keep it SECRET from his Ultra/Decoders...any suggestions???

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RE: Double Secret Academic Probation - 8/25/2013 4:41:45 PM

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Stop flying recon until a day or 2 b4 your invasion.

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RE: December 8, 1942 - 8/25/2013 4:53:13 PM

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IIRC the carrier-strike size issue on small TFs was not fixed in a patch to AE, it was either fixed in original AE or in that big improvement patch they made to original WITP.

How about posting a save game for Michael?

This is a really big issue with the game. You have an example that just happened, are you going to give it to Michael to look at?

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Double Secret Academic Probation - 8/26/2013 12:59:39 AM

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Just got a turn back from Dan.

We have an old theatre that has been brought back to life in Greeley and they like to do 'classics' on Sunday nights. Tonight's classic is a little known oldie but goodie known as Back to the Future. You KNOW you are getting old when the music and movies you grew up with a now looked upon as classic or old! When did YOU realize you were getting older my readers??!! Makes me sad to think that way from time to time but 'we're going back in time' tonight. The whole family is fired up to see the film. We own it on Blu-Ray but want to see it once again on the big screen. Should be a bunch of fun.

Once we get back I am running the turn.

Things are now at a point where I feel like it is time for some serious tactical and strategic planning. More and more units are entering the fray and we need to have them placed into the context of 'what's next.' As readers, do you agree with the following priorities:

1. Finish clearing out Malaya (Alor Star).
2. Build-up Tand??? and Sibolga.
3. Move a major (125,000+ supply convoy to Burma/Pt Blair.
4. Take Nias and Sinabang.
5. Threaten and attempt to capture Diego Garcia.

Just food for thought...

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Double Secret Academic Probation - 8/26/2013 1:16:52 AM

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Should also take note of my 6 CVEs arriving yesterday at Soerabaja. Disbanded the TF and put several ships into repair. Looks like a 4-5 stopover while everyone gets back to zero damage. CA Furutaka will join the TF there making this unit 6 CVE (128 Planes), 1 CA, 1 CL, and 8 DD. They will join-up with another unit operating near Rabaul of 2 CL and 7 DD. It is not much but the combined unit will have a bit a teeth in case Dan send the 2nd or 3rd string out in quest of an easy victory.

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RE: Double Secret Academic Probation - 8/26/2013 1:20:31 PM

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quote:

1. Finish clearing out Malaya (Alor Star).
2. Build-up Tand??? and Sibolga.
3. Move a major (125,000+ supply convoy to Burma/Pt Blair.
4. Take Nias and Sinabang.
5. Threaten and attempt to capture Diego Garcia.

NO to #5!!

I would land further SW of Port Blair on those dot bases to close the pincers on Northern Sumatra. Why?? Logistics, Logistics, Logistics!! Force Dan to have to use his CVs to get anything to Sabang.

In Japan, any Restricted FP groups would be training up in NavB and other Naval groups in NavT. It may be expensive, but I would make this an Allied Stalingrad.

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RE: Double Secret Academic Probation - 8/26/2013 4:13:44 PM

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I would make this an Allied Stalingrad.

Umm...NY59giants dude...didn't the Allies win that one?

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RE: Double Secret Academic Probation - 8/26/2013 4:15:58 PM

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NO to #5!!

I jest, but agree with ny59giants here. Investing / capturing Diego Garcia is not your first logictic priority. You've got to evict the Allied dogs from Sumatra. Everything else is a distraction / frittering away of your strategic response. Not to mention the fuel, system damage, OPS losses of KB a/c, etc.

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RE: Double Secret Academic Probation - 8/26/2013 5:27:47 PM

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NO to #5!!

I would land further SW of Port Blair on those dot bases to close the pincers on Northern Sumatra. Why?? Logistics, Logistics, Logistics!! Force Dan to have to use his CVs to get anything to Sabang.

Trinkat then Great Nicobar. What happened to the allied unit there a few screenies back? Sounds more sensible than DG. The latter might be a neat surprise and find some damaged ships, but what would it achieve on the longer run? It is also damned far away for keeping supported or risking a CV encounter. You should bring that about now with yourself, but engineered to get Dan to attack while you are supported by F/LBA. Trinkat then Great Nicobar would probably already force Dan into that role.

Otherwise: maybe the supply convoys to Rangoon/PB could do that? With all the subs in the channel, I would perhaps choose the high seas route. Depending on where his CV are, and how the aerial situation on N Sumutra developed, I would either come very close to Sumatra or stay just out of LBA range. I'd form several medium (10-20s), and I'd put plenty xAKL into those despite their handicaps (many perhaps half empty, fuel cost or not -- xAKL make good targets). IF his CV are spotted far off, I'd run them close to Sabang, covered by a large DD only TF or two, with KB AND the CVE trailing out of range. If he allows escorted LBA to hit your convoy, he would probably loose a good lot of fighter and bomber pilots for little -- no CV battle, but still some gain. If he hits with CV, you can dissolve the convoys in small 4-6 ship TFs that aren't too gamey, and send them out in all directions to any nearby port. If everything goes well, the xAKLs might perform well between Victoria point/Rangoon/PB -- just covered by PB/DE and your Kates.

Whatever you do, I think it would be better to recall the CVE. He may strike in other sectors under an LBA umbrella, but he'd be advancing slowly and carefully without CV. Let him if he likes, Singers and Palembang as well as Burma are much more important. Your assets may do best if concentrated on the biggest issue at hand.

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RE: Double Secret Academic Probation - 8/26/2013 7:50:10 PM

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I have to agree with G-man and Chickenman here.... If you go that route It would probably would be a good idea to create an illusion that you're investing in Diego Garcia and one or two of the smaller bases on Ceylon prepping troops from the Manchukuo garrison that aren't going to be bought out for quite some time.

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RE: Double Secret Academic Probation - 8/26/2013 9:54:59 PM

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Quick note. Two turns in the book and my gut feeling was RIGHT. He is landing at Noumea with NOT ENOUGH TROOPS! He is about to find out that I have not emptied out the South Pacific near as much as he THINKS I have!

Will do a detailed Post later...

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RE: Double Secret Academic Probation - 8/26/2013 11:43:25 PM

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Argh! A cliff hanger!!

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The Fall of Blenheims - 8/27/2013 8:58:18 PM

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Combat Report
Dec 11-13, 1942

I wonder if Dan is starting to get a feel for a change in the wind's direction? I am beginning to feel it. Don't think I am being too hopeful here but things are starting to look up for Japan. On multiple fronts there are POSITIVE things happening.

Around the Horn:

North--Central Pacific
Calm and pleasant

South Pacific
Going a LONG WAY BACK, I want to revisit a discussion we had on the AAR. When I was certain he was coming up from eastern Aussieland, I decided to pull most of my troops out of Noumea--Efate--Luganville. Enough were to be left to hold-up a landing and allow for the Japanese counter-punch. To this end, the 56th ID was broken into Combat Commands and spread at Noumea--La Foa--Koumac. Everyone kept right on digging and the AF at Koumac was expanded to Lvl-3. The Imperial Guards Brigade was placed at Efate and a strong CD unit was added to some minor troops at Luganville. The tripwire, largely obviated by events in the west, remained in place---waiting...

Dan's Invasion Force begins landing at Noumea on the 11th. To my knowledge he did no recon prior to landing. Will wager he thought it would be EASY. The units he is using are: 22nd Marine Rgt, 14th NZ Brigade, and 24th (Sep) Inf Rgt. The force is covered by BBs Tennessee, Nevada, and Idaho. There are 3-4 CVEs present provide limited CAP and strike potential.

Rather then immediately fritter away planes, I move 2 Daitai and a Sentai of Fighters to Koumac (72 Zero and 36 Tojo). As mentioned earlier my Reaction Force in this are comprises 2 CLs and 9 DDs as well as about 8-10 I-Boats. That STF was inadvertantly run into by one of Dan's FAVORITE items...let me see...CHICKENBOY???...an AK moving up between Luganville/Efate and Lunga. That TF is certainly spotted on the 11th and it moves into place protecting Koumac that same day. I leave it there to protect the Base as well as lure a strike from those CVEs. It WORKS! On the 13th the CVEs move a little towards Koumac and launch a strike of 28 SBD with NO ESCORT. They are slaughtered by 36 Zeros flying CAP. Eleven get through and none of them score a single hit.

In case he looks at Luganville I pull CL Jintsu and 4 Dds to that base. Sure enough they run into US DDs Dunlap and Mahan. In a spirited fight, Mahan is hit 8 times and Dunlap 10. One Japanese DD takes moderate damage (SYS-31) and is ordered to Tulagi.

At least five single ship Allied AK TF have spread out between Lunga and Noumea. Getting truly irritating. Would it break OPSEC if I asked whether this tactic of Dans has been discussed in his AAR? I about to say something and he will not be happy in my raising it...

The Tojos will Sweep Noumea next turn to hurt his F4Fs and we move in a group of Betty (set Range 4) to hit shipping unloading at Noumea. Don't have TTs yet but that shall be fixed pretty quickly. A Daitai of Vals hop to Tagula--Lunga--Ndeni and will arrive at Koumac tomorrow. The 11th Air Fleet HQ was at Lunga. I load it in a couple of 14 Kt AK to get to Koumac QUICKLY. Two more Daitai of Betty move to Lunga and prepare for action.

He launches his first attack on the 13th and the Allied Force scores only a 1-3 result. Order 56th ID--B to move into the hex to stiffen the defenders.

This COULD be fun!

Moves:
The CVEs will move out tomorrow carrying 45 Zero, 61 Val, and 24 Kates. The TF will have BB Fuso, 3 CA, and 12 DD.

My three CVLs that are nearly ready at Tokyo (tomorrow will see Chitose and Chiyoda enter the Fleet) have 5 DDs ready for them. I just MIGHT move them to the new Theatre of Operations. Am seriously considering this but also have to keep my eye on the prize in Sumatra.

Sumatra
Things are looking better and better.

Have decided from this point on to list Tand??? as TJB. TJB's Assault strength keeps raising as 4th ID regains lost strength. We move past the 750 mark on the 13th. AF goes to 3 on the 11th. Supply has climbed over 20,000 and Forts keep heading up.

Sibolga now has 10 Engineering units working and the AF is growing by nearly 20-25% EACH DAY! Lvl-1 tomorrow. The 10th ID moves away from this base on the 13th and moves to the middle of Sumatra. 2nd ID moves away and goes in pursuit of the 10 units driven out of the base a few days ago.

Nias and Sinabang are now getting hit by several Sentai of bombers every day and my 6 CAs are now split into two TF of 3 CA and 4 DD to bombardment the two targets about every other night. Am waiting for my Inf units to get to at least 30-35% prep before landing them. Don't think this is a major risk since his units present are getting beat-up and haven't been supplied since landing.

BB Yamato and her escorts come back to TJB after a few days off in Singapore.

My 4 BC will arrive at Singapore tonight. They will get a day or two of R&R and then be sent on a bombardment run to Medan. Right now I have 4 BC and 6 DD. To this I shall add 5 DMS to try and deal with the mines he has planted at Medan. Weather has been nasty over northern Sumatra so I am hitting medan about every other day with about 75-80 bombers. No aircraft present yet.

KB is headed to Soerabaja for aircraft as well as R&R. Plan to run about 125-150,000 supply up to Rangoon and Pt Blair. Am trying to figure out the best way. Do we take the LONG way around western Sumatra covered by the CVs or do we RACE of the coast of eastern Malaya with a strong Surface Escort? This is a puzzlement and any opinions might be welcomed!

Port Blair
This AF is still pulverized by the CVs attacks from 5-6 turns ago. A TF of 5 DDs protects the harbor as a Convoy bringing in 6 AA units arrives on the 13th. His 4EB are coming everyday and they don't do a lot, however, they do manage to keep the numbers from dropping very quickly. Gonna need a serious CAP shot in the arm here--plus the AA units--to stop this stuff!

Burma
Damn. It isn't often I get the drop on my opponent by I do it TWICE on the 13th.

The 2nd TK Div arrived at 59,44 (Northern Burma Plain above the Irrawaddy) on the 12th and the 12th ID arrived on the 13th. Both units are pretty much full strength. There were 4 Allied units present. I KNEW Dan would have to try to bomb my troops if he was to stop or slow my immediate attack. The Tojos are called upon and lie in wait for two days before the assault occurs. A total of 96 Blenheim--A-29--B-25 arrive over the hex with NO ESCORT! They are met by 59 Fighters. The bombers are CRUSHED! Dan loses an insane amount of Blenheims and other bombers. LOVELY!

BANZAI BABY!!!

The 2nd TK Assault occurs and scores a 3-1 result. Four units are thrown back into the jungle inflicting 1,813 Cas, 39 Guns, and 47 Vehicles. Two Brigades, an HQ, and another unit take it on the chin. NICE! Order the two victorious Divisions back to Magwe for some R&R.

My bombers roam over the Allied units down in the pocket near Prome beating them up as well.

China
Really WANT to expand the success of my capture of Kweilin but doesn't look like this will happen. Attacks at 76,53 (east of Kweilin) don't do well as well as attacks to 73,53. Will pull the troops back and order some R&R.

Continue bombing Chungking. AF is now at 100%.

INSIGHT
1. Dan is pissing away expendable troops over in New Caledonia. If he thinks there is little chance of success I wager he will begin lifting troops back up tomorrow. This would be good because it forces him to stick around for a couple of days and my aircraft can have at his ships. I'll try to drive him out and force him to re-evaluate his thinking as to my weaknesses along the perimeter.

2. NO ALLIED FIGHTERS except over bases right now. He must be putting everything up over Sumatra and his west coast (Burma) bases. I've held off on SWEEPS for a while as I wanted to rest my Sentai and get some Tojos built. Time to change that I think. Will take the FIGHT to the ALLIES in Burma first and then (once Sibolga has reached AF-2) will move it over to Sumatra.

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The Fall of Blenheims - 8/27/2013 9:04:19 PM

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It is not often in late-1942 one can Post 8-1 victories as Japan:

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Noumea - 8/27/2013 9:07:05 PM

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Here is a current screenshot of the New Caledonia Area:

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RE: The Fall of Blenheims - 8/28/2013 2:13:29 AM

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At least five single ship Allied AK TF have spread out between Lunga and Noumea. Getting truly irritating. Would it break OPSEC if I asked whether this tactic of Dans has been discussed in his AAR? I about to say something and he will not be happy in my raising it...

It has been discussed.

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RE: The Fall of Blenheims - 8/28/2013 3:15:06 AM

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I've held off on SWEEPS for a while as I wanted to rest my Sentai and get some Tojos built. Time to change that I think.

I'd engage immediately John. You've Oscar Ic's or IIa's doncha? Flying high sweep in numbers, they will do in a pinch. Once you attrit his frontline fighters, they're even more of a match for the poor airframes he's likely got in numbers in the pools.

In my opinion, you haven't been as aggressive with sweeping as you should have on Sabang. As a result, he's likely got sizeable numbers there now. With the Tojo IIa at your disposal, you should be sweeping 4-5 times daily to wear him down. Then your naval bombardments, LBA airfield bombings and the lot will be able to work on the airfield. Your ships will be safer too.

Focus, dude. He's given you a very meaningful and increasingly vulnerable target. Stop looking elsewhere for a place to bleed him. Kill him here. Here, damnit!

ETA: Very nice job on the CAP trap in Burma. Kill! Kill! Kill!

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RE: The Fall of Blenheims - 8/28/2013 3:50:17 AM

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At least five single ship Allied AK TF have spread out between Lunga and Noumea. Getting truly irritating. Would it break OPSEC if I asked whether this tactic of Dans has been discussed in his AAR? I about to say something and he will not be happy in my raising it...

It has been discussed.

Zulu - You put that very succinctly. Given the amount of discussion, I'm impressed.

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RE: The Fall of Blenheims - 8/28/2013 6:09:57 AM

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The blemheim is just a pitful plane to put into combat without escort. I would not do it. The air frames are one thing but for the Allies bomber pilots are just as critical in 1942. The Allies just can't fight everywhere. Those blemheims would have served better training up pilots. I think in 42 the Allies need to concede air superiority in some theaters. It hurts to watch but in the long run he would be better off.

Crap I hated the Tojo in late 42. I had nothing that could really handle it and that gap does not close until the hellcat comes on line in the spring of 43. The smattering of lightnings and corsairs on hand just are not enough to staunch the flow. Once the F6F comes on line the Allies can start to think a little more offensively.

In real life the Tojo was not a great aircraft, but in the game it is king for almost a year. Enjoy yourself while you can.

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RE: The Fall of Blenheims - 8/28/2013 1:00:56 PM

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Ind Eng Rgt - Next turn look for and find where they ALL are at. These are Japan's best construction engineers and you should have them at your most important bases. Are they??

Tojo sweeps - I agree with my fellow posters here. Massive sweeps of Sabang by them and then a possibility of having KB visit the base after he has been knocked down to some extent.

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RE: The Fall of Blenheims - 8/28/2013 4:53:09 PM

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The blemheim is just a pitful plane to put into combat without escort. I would not do it. The air frames are one thing but for the Allies bomber pilots are just as critical in 1942. The Allies just can't fight everywhere. Those blemheims would have served better training up pilots. I think in 42 the Allies need to concede air superiority in some theaters. It hurts to watch but in the long run he would be better off.

Crap I hated the Tojo in late 42. I had nothing that could really handle it and that gap does not close until the hellcat comes on line in the spring of 43. The smattering of lightnings and corsairs on hand just are not enough to staunch the flow. Once the F6F comes on line the Allies can start to think a little more offensively.

In real life the Tojo was not a great aircraft, but in the game it is king for almost a year. Enjoy yourself while you can.

Interesting you've read/heard this. I've always read the opposite, that it was one of the best the Japanese fielded but due to politics, manufacturing concerns, and pilots initial lack of interest in the faster, less maneuverable aircraft, it didn't see much action early but eventually actually fared well in combat. I have read a few comments from US pilots saying the same, including the one below.

Here some interesting comments by Mustang pilot 'Ax' Hiltgen of the 530th Fighter Squadron (from Roger Freeman's "Combat Profile: Mustang"):

"Altitude was important to get over the bad weather in combat and when we encountered 'Tonys' and 'Tojos' - particularly the latter."

"Fortunately for us, as the Japanese planes got better - with the 'Tojo' the best - their fighter pilot quality plummeted."

"As mentioned earlier, the only Japanese plane that came close to the characteristics of the P-51 was the 'Tojo'. With the 'Oscar' and 'Zero', if you stayed out of tight, slow manoeuvres and used the advantages of the Mustang you would win."

(He might not have encountered the Nakajima Ki-84 before he was rotated out of the theatre. However, from aviation enthusiasts familiar with the Japanese perspective, I've heard that the Ki-84 gave a lot of trouble initially and did not develop full engine power, so that many pilots still preferred the mature Ki-44 which gave comparable performance.)

Sorry for the hijack John!

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