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RE: THE HEAD OF THE SNAKE - 9/7/2013 3:09:00 AM

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Yum, a Nipponese Spamarama! I'm guessing the asphalt looking overcoat is seaweed or something else very heart-healthy. Eating that will surely make one smile broadly.

Ser Greyjoy, on another note, I heard that JRR Martin spoke a some recent sci-fi con and was loudly accousted by chants of "Finish the book! Finish the book"! I concur, your honor.

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RE: THE HEAD OF THE SNAKE - 9/7/2013 3:43:51 AM

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I'm told Spam is big in Korea. For one thing a respectful gift to bring to someone's home on a holiday.

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RE: THE HEAD OF THE SNAKE - 9/7/2013 4:11:27 AM

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OK, we have done the Spam thing, now how about a game update???

Get off your butt GreyJoy and tell us what is happening.

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RE: THE HEAD OF THE SNAKE - 9/7/2013 4:23:46 AM

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I'm told Spam is big in Korea. For one thing a respectful gift to bring to someone's home on a holiday.

By a very, very large margin Hawaii indexes the highest on Spam consumption among the fifty states. A hold-over from the war. Having lived there I can attest that grocery stores often have 12-16 linear feet of gondola stocked five feet high with cans of the product.

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RE: THE HEAD OF THE SNAKE - 9/7/2013 5:35:22 AM

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In my youth I worked at a industrial meat processing center here in Sweden. Things I learned from that experience:

Buy only sausages from a proper supplier.
Minced meat isn�t really meat...its "meat".

And the most important lesson:
Never, ever under ANY circumstances eat spam in any shape, sort or form. The way the make that crap is just...yuck!

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RE: THE HEAD OF THE SNAKE - 9/7/2013 8:17:38 AM

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The main problem is NOT if, or when, to have decisive battle, but preparing for afterwards of it.

Assuming, that you will win (or, what is more possible both sides withdraw to lick their wounds), are you prepared to exploit this opportunity? If both sides just withdraw, you will hardly achieve anything, except few weeks of time.

Also - try to put rebuilding IDs on your secondary/third line to rebuild, and prepare there. PI is good target, as it have lots of bases to support rebuilding.

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RE: THE HEAD OF THE SNAKE - 9/7/2013 9:05:25 AM

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One of the cooked meats that I used to buy had as its main ingredient "reformed meat".

Didn't buy it again after that

C'mon Greyjoy, where is the map update?

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RE: THE HEAD OF THE SNAKE - 9/7/2013 1:41:24 PM

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Inqistor raises a good point-- what do you do after the victory? It seems like as the Japanese, the best thing to do is... still retreat some lol...

As for spam, we had to eat prodigious quantities of it as a hazing technique in college. This was not fun. The best concoction was the "spamshake"-- basically, water and spam in a blender with some other unknown disgusting things (probably insects, and other unnameables).

And yes, let's see a map (and economics :)

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RE: THE HEAD OF THE SNAKE - 9/9/2013 7:37:47 AM

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Our biggest holiday of the year is coming next week and below is one of the more popular gift sets:

EDIT: Just saw witpqs's post above. Yes, you are quite correct, sir.

Cheers,
CC

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RE: THE HEAD OF THE SNAKE - 9/9/2013 7:42:07 AM

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ORIGINAL: Commander Cody

Our biggest holiday of the year is coming next week and below is one of the more popular gift sets:

EDIT: Just saw witpqs's post above. Yes, you are quite correct, sir.

Cheers,
CC

And people thought I was joking!

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RE: THE HEAD OF THE SNAKE - 9/9/2013 8:11:59 AM

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Sorry guys for the delay. A slow week end with many problems with Valentina...
Brad sent me the turn on Sat night but I was just able to see the replay. Nothing much happened sadly.
He sent 2 x 2DD TFs against Koepang, sinking 3 xAKLs delivering supplies and then fighting against the Yamato TF led by Tanaka... 4 DDs sunk for him and 1 DD damaged for me.
He kept his TFs far away from my bases... probably waiting for an attack against his heavily LRCAPPED TFs...didn't happen

Not less than 30 subs are infesting the waters between Kendari, Makassar and Timor... thanks God only 1 PB sunk due to them this turn.
Boela and Ambon are attacked by 4Es..
And some stupid commander ordered a naval attack against his shippings at Misol... 4 Helens escorted by 70 zeros....

... 50 good pilots lost for nothing...I hate when it happens.
However now I know he has APAs at Misol...is he advancing?

Ships are also spotted near Woleai in the Pacific....

Tomorrow will be another tense day. Hope to be able to play today and so to post some decent update with maps and stuff...

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RE: THE HEAD OF THE SNAKE - 9/9/2013 5:15:08 PM

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Ok, lots of requests. Hard to replay to everybody, but i'll try my best.

Feb 7, 1944

Brad sends his DDs in advance, screening his main TFs and soaking up Japanese air operations.
A part from the mentioned 2 DDTFs intercepted and sunk by Tanaka at Roti, there are many more fletchers TFs 5 hexes SW of Koepang. 50 Judy and 50 Jills took of from Koepang, but we scored only 1 bomb hit on a DD...thus losing more than 15 planes to flak

... His BBs and CVs remain behind... he clearly wants to put a CAP Trap in order to destroy my chance of replying to an invasion...

At Misol the enemy keeps on landing troops...not much I can do there for the moment, except from speeding up the reinforcement of the second defensive line.

Landings continue at Sarmi... he hasn't attacked so far yet.

My KB remains behind the main LBA line... i'm thinking about sending her in next turn and see if I can look for a decisive battle when he's not landed yet...

However there is another vector... barges and PTs are getting close to Lautem...probably a landing at Watar (after the failed para attempt of Feb 6)...

To be honest I'm not so sure what to do next. If I lose this battle my only strategy is to keep on doing what i'm doing and rely a lot more on my LBA, but knowing that, without the KB, he could land almost everywhere.
If it's a draw...well, I had gained time...and time is the only real thing I need now. I cannot hope to counter attack anywhere. Don't have enough ships, nor men, nor supplies or fuel to do that.

The supply situation is getting horrible. I'm doing my best to save what I can in order to keep on fighting... no forts above lvl 6... almost everywhere I stop at level 5... very few building AFs/port... I try to move as less ships as possible... but supplies and fuel levels simply keep on getting lower everyday.

The economy is still in shape. 2.5M HIs in the bank...but the real problem, again, are the supplies. I'll run short of them very soon!

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RE: THE HEAD OF THE SNAKE - 9/9/2013 8:36:32 PM

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Wow! Nice line from Soemba to Timor. Even the dot hexes have garrisons.

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RE: THE HEAD OF THE SNAKE - 9/9/2013 11:01:44 PM

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Wow. This is big. Good luck!

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RE: THE HEAD OF THE SNAKE - 9/9/2013 11:52:32 PM

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Waiting for Brad to send the turn i'm enjoyin the US Open Final... probably one of the greatest matches i've ever seen

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RE: THE HEAD OF THE SNAKE - 9/9/2013 11:54:19 PM

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ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake

Wow! Nice line from Soemba to Timor. Even the dot hexes have garrisons.

Small ones unfortunately...and they barely have the minimum supply needed... I've sent fast transports everywhere in order to keep them supplied but now, with the enemy so close, it's becoming a challenge to keep my units in supply

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RE: THE HEAD OF THE SNAKE - 9/10/2013 4:25:58 PM

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Brad's turn should arrive tomorrow... these turns are really slow unfortunately. The turns are massive and both me and Brad are pretty busy at work and with family... the worst possible moment, in game terms, to be so slow :-(

To answer to the economy inquiries, here's a screenshot from Tracker...

As you can see the situation is not that good. we are producing too few supplies and the situation will not improve. As soon as he'll start bombing the HI in Indochina and China, i'll go easily below 24000 supplies per day...

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RE: THE HEAD OF THE SNAKE - 9/10/2013 4:29:30 PM

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This is our a/c production chart...

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RE: THE HEAD OF THE SNAKE - 9/10/2013 4:35:29 PM

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As some of u may remember in 1941 I had already decided to sustain the efforts of the air production in terms of HIs by cutting the navy production.

We've halted completely the production of 4 CVs, 1 CVLs and 4 CVEs.
All the TKs and xAKs production has been stopped.
Same for subs (we've only produced 4 of them since the start of the war.
Only producing DDs, "E" classes and MBTs.

The idea has always been to use very carefully my navy, so to suffer less losses and be able to live with what I started with.

Also the fuel levels won't let me use much more ships anyway...

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RE: THE HEAD OF THE SNAKE - 9/10/2013 4:37:28 PM

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In the last 102 days tracker says we've lost 252,000 supplies and 120,000 fuel...

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RE: THE HEAD OF THE SNAKE - 9/10/2013 5:44:17 PM

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ORIGINAL: GreyJoy

In the last 102 days tracker says we've lost 252,000 supplies and 120,000 fuel...

Is that normal?

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RE: THE HEAD OF THE SNAKE - 9/10/2013 8:17:50 PM

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Yeah, how that happen ??

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ORIGINAL: JocMeister

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ORIGINAL: GreyJoy

In the last 102 days tracker says we've lost 252,000 supplies and 120,000 fuel...

Is that normal?

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RE: THE HEAD OF THE SNAKE - 9/10/2013 10:31:17 PM

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ORIGINAL: Richard III

Yeah, how that happen ??

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ORIGINAL: JocMeister

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ORIGINAL: GreyJoy

In the last 102 days tracker says we've lost 252,000 supplies and 120,000 fuel...

Is that normal?

Pretty simply: i produce 25,900 supplies daily, while i spend an average of 29,000 every day. Even if Brad didn't bomb some of my HIs in China, i couldn't produce much more than 26,500.
That's because in this mod (DBB) the refineries do not produce supplies, so i have far less supplies produced than in stock.

The problem is that i'm going to spend even more...with all the LCUs coming as reinforcements in the next months....

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RE: THE HEAD OF THE SNAKE - 9/11/2013 8:46:12 AM

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Tough with the supply. You'll likely be having to start massive increases in certain engine factories as well, unless you've already done so. I've found I really can't have too many Ha-45 and I'm sure the same will be true with the Ha-43 once that comes online.

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RE: THE HEAD OF THE SNAKE - 9/11/2013 1:05:47 PM

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RE: THE HEAD OF THE SNAKE - 9/11/2013 1:35:39 PM

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Notwithstanding that there was a problem in this scenario (scen 2 with scen 1 supply or somesuch?) which michaelm assisted with...

and it's the beta with a decision to stop refineries creating supply just because someone objected to Palembang Fortress troops eating fuel - no different to aircraft flying on, firing and dropping rice cakes, but there you go - and without compensating LI (I may be wrong here)...

....but running out of supply is just one way of crashing the Japanese economy....Every factory point repaired costs 1000 supply; less supply = less factories.

My point (I play both sides coz it's such a fun game, so always have both up and downsides form every change) is that running out of supply is also an economic consequence of the industry approach of the Japanese player.

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RE: THE HEAD OF THE SNAKE - 9/11/2013 2:14:12 PM

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If memory serves me right, in the epic game between PzB vs Andy Mac, PzB was doing very well as Japan. He to ran out of supplies late in the game. I don't think they even finished it because of this problem.

You and Brad need to discuss what to do about this issue. Post in the Mod Section about this in the DBB 30 thread. It needs a solution.

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Would this have been alleviated had Japan built less "stuff"? Japan can build thousands of planes above historical production, would that have contributed to the current supply problems?

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RE: THE HEAD OF THE SNAKE - 9/13/2013 4:07:01 AM

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ORIGINAL: GreyJoy

Pretty simply: i produce 25,900 supplies daily, while i spend an average of 29,000 every day. Even if Brad didn't bomb some of my HIs in China, i couldn't produce much more than 26,500.
That's because in this mod (DBB) the refineries do not produce supplies, so i have far less supplies produced than in stock.

The problem is that i'm going to spend even more...with all the LCUs coming as reinforcements in the next months....

Stop spending more than you produce. Turn off factory repair and units replacements. Your supply usage should drop to less than 10K/day.

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RE: THE HEAD OF THE SNAKE - 9/13/2013 7:06:53 AM

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If memory serves me right, in the epic game between PzB vs Andy Mac, PzB was doing very well as Japan. He to ran out of supplies late in the game. I don't think they even finished it because of this problem.

You and Brad need to discuss what to do about this issue. Post in the Mod Section about this in the DBB 30 thread. It needs a solution.

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Would this have been alleviated had Japan built less "stuff"? Japan can build thousands of planes above historical production, would that have contributed to the current supply problems?

Yes, and the supply situation should be dire for Japan in the late game if the Empire is still extended and the LOC is long and difficult. I think this is something we have to live with playing Japan, especially in a scenario that has no supply produced by refineries (not that I like this solution, since those places did produce the stuff that planes run on in the war, and in the game this is supply).

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ORIGINAL: ny59giants

If memory serves me right, in the epic game between PzB vs Andy Mac, PzB was doing very well as Japan. He to ran out of supplies late in the game. I don't think they even finished it because of this problem.

You and Brad need to discuss what to do about this issue. Post in the Mod Section about this in the DBB 30 thread. It needs a solution.

As posted above, I get that playability would suggest that it needs a solution, but would a nation keep it's Empire extended if it couldn't supply it's forces, or would it begin to conserve, stop expanding factories, live with less and begin an intentional strategic pull back? Sucks, but maybe that's the solution.

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ORIGINAL: PaxMondo

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ORIGINAL: GreyJoy

Pretty simply: i produce 25,900 supplies daily, while i spend an average of 29,000 every day. Even if Brad didn't bomb some of my HIs in China, i couldn't produce much more than 26,500.
That's because in this mod (DBB) the refineries do not produce supplies, so i have far less supplies produced than in stock.

The problem is that i'm going to spend even more...with all the LCUs coming as reinforcements in the next months....

Stop spending more than you produce. Turn off factory repair and units replacements. Your supply usage should drop to less than 10K/day.

These suggestions can at least keep you going while the supply builds up again. I know you've already turned off a lot of fort building. I also had to do this at various points. I look at supply levels every day, and i'm not in nearly as extreme a scenario.

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RE: THE HEAD OF THE SNAKE - 9/13/2013 8:07:47 AM

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Sorry for the lack of updates guys. Unfortunately life kicks in right during the most interesting moments of this game

Feb 8, 1944

Right when we thought Brad's decision to advance against Timor/west was a weird one, Brad showed me that this was, again, another elaborate feint.
Obviously, seeing that all his major CVs and landing fleet was near Broome, I had moved my reserves in the Kendari-Timor area... and Brad took advantage of it!
Today he lands a HUGE APA convoy at Sarmi, delivering the 5th Aus Division...right under my nose... only a pitfull number of unescorted Judys and Helens took off from Biak and got slaughtered by his LRCAP.
At the very same time, his CVs remain still at 8 hexes SW of Roti...not moving...just attracting my attention....so that he could strike elsewhere. Nice!
Actually the struggle in NG wasn't over. During the morning some Corsairs swept Biak, followed by 100 4Es that sunk in port 19 transports (even some fast xAPs

), 2 "E"s, 2 ACMs and 2 AKEs, along with a number of barges and PBs... painfull... I had some 100 fighters at Biak (KI-84r) but decided to let them rest for a day... bad decision!!!

Then the enemy swept Roti with P-47s from Damar (east of Lautem), achieving a stunning 8-1 against N1K2 and J2M3s...

Then again 60 4Es, escorted by Boomerangs from Oz attacked Alor...this time they found 100 Jap fighters (Georges, Nicks and Tojos). We didn't do that well this time (high fatigue and low morale) but at least we downed 20 of the basterds.

Ambon and Boela were both attacked by bombers... it's getting really hard to defend our main bases.

The allies did another para operation, conquering a little island north of Ambon (called Obi)... they are trying to flank all my main bases... you can easily see the pattern: Gorong->Misol-> Obi... not much I can do. Cannot garrison them all... now he'll start sending a costant flow of barges and PTs...almost impossible to stop...

So my KB remain locked, along with my main air and naval defences to Timor, looking at his landing fleet (a feint?), while Brad exploits this advancing on both sides of New Guinea unmolested... Really well planned

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