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RE: Odin, up close and personal - 9/19/2013 5:09:28 AM   
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Oops. Maybe not. Perhaps only the "100" hexes trigger, not the "101" and "103" hexes. In that case, even the littel "jimas" right off the Japanese coast won't trigger. I am beginning to think the reinfrocement trigger notion on the Kuriles is wrong. Note that the Kamikaze ticking-timebomb trigger is different.


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That island has an incorrect nationality code {Pescadores} - it has been set to Japan Mainland.

Not sure what it should have. Bump the question upstairs.

BTW, Formosa wont activate the reinforcements
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Home Island Reinforcement test thread.

http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=2622371&mpage=1&key=Depot%2CDivision?


100 Japan (excluding Kuriles/Ryukyus/Izu Islands)
101 Japanese Home islands (Kuriles/Ryukyus/Izu Islands)
102 Japanese Pacific mandate (including Marianas except Guam, Carolines, Marshall Islands)
103 Formosa
104 Korea
105 Manchukuo
106 Indochina (except Vietnam)
107 Vietnam
108 Thailand

It looks like the Ishigaki islands are 103 from your pic - Formosa, and according to quote you have, Formosa does not trigger reinforcements, so Ishigaki should not.


I agree with that inference. Presumably, michaelm knows what he is talking about.

So here is what I have so far on the reinforcement trigger

Pescadores......YES, definitely (100 code)

Formosa, Orchid Is, Iriomote, Ishigaki and Horycrappo-jima....NO, probably

Okinawa, the rest of the Ryukyu's (except those already mentioned), the Kuriles and Japanese occupied Sakhalin....MAYBE, perhaps







Playing scenario 2 on the latest official patch. Paramushiro Jima is "100". Couldn't read Onnetokan Jima (the one near Paramushiro) with the base display overlay. Not sure about Tsushima for the same reason. No other bases outside of the home islands were "100" that I could tell.

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RE: Odin, up close and personal - 9/19/2013 5:14:59 AM   
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RE: Odin, up close and personal - 9/19/2013 2:13:19 PM   
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Playing scenario 2 on the latest official patch. Paramushiro Jima is "100". Couldn't read Onnetokan Jima (the one near Paramushiro) with the base display overlay. Not sure about Tsushima for the same reason. No other bases outside of the home islands were "100" that I could tell.



Agreed, mostly. NE corner of Paramashiro jima is 100 as it the island to the E but the SW corner of Paramashiro-jima is 101.

The remaining Kuriles and Sakhalin are 101's...which means that you might be able to take the bases without triggering the Depot Divisons???????




Tsushima, Oki-shoto and Sadogashima in the Sea of Japan are also 101's.

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RE: Odin, up close and personal - 9/19/2013 2:18:54 PM   
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IIRC the country code is in the pwhex file set. You can change that for a game in progress, if you want to correct that error (presuming it is an error). Of course if you wait until after you land there and trigger reinforcements it would be too late.


How do you convert the B-18's to B-29's?

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RE: Odin, up close and personal - 9/19/2013 2:50:24 PM   
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A young Australian Lt of 1st Aus. Para Bn leads a squad into a compound with fences and abandoned guard towers. He is approached by two malnourished-appearing older men of European extraction wearing tattered and soiled clothing. One of them speaks.

1st Old-looking Guy: Good morning Lt., welcome to Karenko. I'm General Wainwright and this is General Percival.

2nd Old-looking guy: Yes, welcome. And thank you for coming. <the two old guys laugh>

http://www.powtaiwan.org/The%20Camps/camps_detail.php?Karenko-POW-Camp-3&name=Karenko

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RE: Odin, up close and personal - 9/19/2013 3:38:49 PM   
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Don't think we should try to land on Okinawa with one only CVE and Yorktown because we will be up against the two fields on Okinawa plus all the fields on Formosa, China and Kyushu...AND a CVL and Soryu. We need to get the heavy bombers up to Aparri and bomb the hory riving crap out of Okinawa and Formosa first.




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RE: Odin, up close and personal - 9/19/2013 3:44:03 PM   
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RE: Odin, up close and personal - 9/19/2013 3:47:42 PM   
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Agreed, mostly. NE corner of Paramashiro jima is 100 as it the island to the E but the SW corner of Paramashiro-jima is 101.


Ooops. Guess I just triggered some reinforcements for my AI game.
Ah well more VPs to accumulate.

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RE: Odin, up close and personal - 9/19/2013 3:58:52 PM   
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IIRC the country code is in the pwhex file set. You can change that for a game in progress, if you want to correct that error (presuming it is an error). Of course if you wait until after you land there and trigger reinforcements it would be too late.


How do you convert the B-18's to B-29's?


You need the services the ultra-hacker Deep Night. But you don't find him. He finds you.




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RE: Odin, up close and personal - 9/19/2013 4:07:15 PM   
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Couldn't you just add 1011 binary to the B-18 data?

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RE: Odin, up close and personal - 9/19/2013 4:17:39 PM   
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Couldn't you just add 1011 binary to the B-18 data?

Details! Details!




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RE: Odin, up close and personal - 9/19/2013 5:50:31 PM   
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NE corner of Paramashiro jima is 100 as it the island to the E but the SW corner of Paramashiro-jima is 101.


Being as neither of those bits of PMJ are buildable bases (no dot hex), the bit of PMJ that's relevant for invasion / defense is in the prestigious zip code.

I assume that 101 (102, 103, 104, 90211) does not trigger national reserves based upon the previously posted threads. Very interesting. One learns something new about this game every freakin' day...

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RE: Odin, up close and personal - 9/19/2013 8:03:41 PM   
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RE: Odin, up close and personal - 9/19/2013 8:17:37 PM   
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Queries vary in degree of difficulty, but for the average query, the servers it touches each work on it for just a few thousandths of a second. Together with other work performed before your search even starts (such as building the search index) this amounts to 0.0003 kWh of energy per search, or 1 kJ. For comparison, the average adult needs about 8000 kJ a day of energy from food, so a Google search uses just about the same amount of energy that your body burns in ten seconds.

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RE: Odin, up close and personal - 9/19/2013 8:23:22 PM   
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It uses this much energy:

Queries vary in degree of difficulty, but for the average query, the servers it touches each work on it for just a few thousandths of a second. Together with other work performed before your search even starts (such as building the search index) this amounts to 0.0003 kWh of energy per search, or 1 kJ. For comparison, the average adult needs about 8000 kJ a day of energy from food, so a Google search uses just about the same amount of energy that your body burns in ten seconds.



That is quite fascinating but does it include the energy cost for the NSA to retain and cross-index the search with the terror watch list or some advertiser to send me ads for "Horycrappo-jima" T-shirts?

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RE: Odin, up close and personal - 9/19/2013 8:36:32 PM   
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(Anyone remember "Spot the Tank"?)





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RE: Odin, up close and personal - 9/19/2013 10:25:31 PM   
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RE: Odin, up close and personal - 9/19/2013 10:26:20 PM   
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I wonder how many electrons this wastes?



You know, that's interesting. While reading an opponent's AAR on the forum is verboten, isn't a Google search "first two lines" finding more of a grey zone? Hey-it's on the internet! I couldn't help it.

Hence Sprior's years-old admonishment to you about not posting pictures of Mandrake junior's graduation.

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RE: Odin, up close and personal - 9/19/2013 10:26:58 PM   
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(Anyone remember "Spot the Tank"?)


Course I do. What tank?

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RE: Odin, up close and personal - 9/19/2013 10:28:24 PM   
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It uses this much energy:

Queries vary in degree of difficulty, but for the average query, the servers it touches each work on it for just a few thousandths of a second. Together with other work performed before your search even starts (such as building the search index) this amounts to 0.0003 kWh of energy per search, or 1 kJ. For comparison, the average adult needs about 8000 kJ a day of energy from food, so a Google search uses just about the same amount of energy that your body burns in ten seconds.



That is quite fascinating but does it include the energy cost for the NSA to retain and cross-index the search with the terror watch list or some advertiser to send me ads for "Horycrappo-jima" T-shirts?


"I landed on Horycrappo-Jima and all I got was this lousy T-shirt". I'd buy one.

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RE: Odin, up close and personal - 9/19/2013 10:59:26 PM   
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"I landed on Horycrappo-Jima and all I got was this lousy T-shirt". I'd buy one.


Me too!

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RE: Odin, up close and personal - 9/20/2013 7:16:39 AM   
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RE: Odin, up close and personal - 9/20/2013 1:10:13 PM   
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£17 a pop plus post and packaging. Who's up for it?


If owners of a fourth rotor get a discount I'm in

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RE: Odin, up close and personal - 9/20/2013 1:20:12 PM   
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£17 a pop plus post and packaging. Who's up for it?


I'd be in, but request that the word "landed" be replaced by "stepped" for humorous alliteration.

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RE: Odin, up close and personal - 9/20/2013 2:32:18 PM   
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£17 a pop plus post and packaging. Who's up for it?


If owners of a fourth rotor get a discount I'm in


No gizzits. Bloody jack.

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RE: Odin, up close and personal - 9/20/2013 2:39:39 PM   
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RE: Odin, up close and personal - 9/20/2013 2:57:39 PM   
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Behold! The t shirt of Horrycrap-ojima!







Oh boy, here come the purists!

Why is that targetted infantryman carrying the silhouette of an AR-15/M-16/M-4? Can't you get one with an Arisaka or Nambu? Or a M-1 Garand?

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RE: Odin, up close and personal - 9/20/2013 3:01:22 PM   
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RE: Odin, up close and personal - 9/20/2013 3:06:01 PM   
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RE: Odin, up close and personal - 9/20/2013 3:19:13 PM   
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