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Running under WINE? - 9/25/2013 12:03:31 AM   
kashirigi

 

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Status: offline 		Seeing as I'm mostly a mac user, I was wondering if anyone has tried running this under WINE, and if they've have good results. Seeing as it mostly uses an unmodified Windows UI, I'm hoping for a resounding yes.

I do have a Windows box, but it's not nearly as portable, so it's not a deal killer.
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RE: Running under WINE? - 9/25/2013 3:56:08 AM   
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Status: offline 		I do not have a mac, but I tried on linux and it started with a ton of errors. I have had problems similar to this running .net apps in wine before, so I should be able to get it working with some tweaks to wine and/or the correct install of .net and directx.

I will keep trying as I am in the same boat as you are, I have a laptop with linux, but with a big gaming rig.

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RE: Running under WINE? - 9/25/2013 5:33:56 AM   
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Status: offline 		I am running it on an iMac under Bootcamp and Windows 7. I tried running it under Parallels, but it was significantly slower.

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RE: Running under WINE? - 9/25/2013 6:33:33 AM   
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Status: offline 		Running it on Macbook Pro 15" Retina i7 2.3Ghz on Parallels 9 with Windows 8 virtual machine. Parallels configuration 4 cores, 4 GB memory, 1 GB video memory and faster virtual machine preference. Runs very smoothly easily, even the fans don't start to spin fast, as they use to do under heavy load.

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RE: Running under WINE? - 9/25/2013 3:50:50 PM   
kashirigi

 

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Status: offline 		While I'm happy it runs well on a dual-boot system or a VM, that's not really what I'm asking. I don't want to have to make another VM (or worse, dual boot); that's why I'm interested in WINE specifically. I'm certainly not interested in having to purchase Windows in addition to what is a rather surprisingly expensive game.

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RE: Running under WINE? - 9/25/2013 4:45:00 PM   
delenda

 

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Status: offline 		I'll start having a look too.

Mono does support .Net Framework 4 extended, so we should be able to get it going.

*crosses fingers*

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RE: Running under WINE? - 9/25/2013 4:50:55 PM   
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ORIGINAL: vynnmalonis

I do not have a mac, but I tried on linux and it started with a ton of errors. I have had problems similar to this running .net apps in wine before, so I should be able to get it working with some tweaks to wine and/or the correct install of .net and directx.



Any chance you can post the errors?

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RE: Running under WINE? - 9/25/2013 4:57:18 PM   
kashirigi

 

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Status: offline 		I don't have it yet; if it doesn't run passably well under WINE it's very close to a deal breaker. That's why I was asking if anyone else had tried it.

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RE: Running under WINE? - 9/25/2013 4:59:57 PM   
delenda

 

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I'll edit my original.

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RE: Running under WINE? - 9/25/2013 7:12:10 PM   
delenda

 

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Status: offline 		OK, so got Wine installed on OSX.

Installed .Net 4 & corefonts with winetricks. Command installed fine but I'm getting this when running:

http://imgur.com/p5jeFuJ

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RE: Running under WINE? - 9/25/2013 7:43:36 PM   
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RE: Running under WINE? - 9/25/2013 7:53:15 PM   
delenda

 

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ORIGINAL: Sunburn

Does OSX emulate DirectX in any way?


Not OSX specifically but there's some software called Wine that helps.

Wine is a compatibility layer that implements Windows functionality - http://www.winehq.org/

Wineskin allows you to wrap applications up in to nice wrappers - http://wineskin.urgesoftware.com/tiki-index.php?page=Downloads

Wineskin also has some engines that help with getting DirectX going nicely.




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RE: Running under WINE? - 9/25/2013 7:54:13 PM   
delenda

 

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Status: offline 		I'm getting closer now. When running Command.exe, I get error messages regarding msxml3.dll being missing.

I'm installing it using winetricks and it does appear to be there...

*rage* not there

ls msxml*
msxml.dll msxml2.dll msxml4.dll msxml6.dll

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RE: Running under WINE? - 9/25/2013 7:57:15 PM   
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Status: offline 		I haven't used wine in years due to difficulty getting some apps to work, but recently had good luck with virtualbox. Also free and worth investigating. I am running parallels now for my vm needs though, so cannot comment on any developments over the past year with virtualbox.


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RE: Running under WINE? - 9/25/2013 8:01:26 PM   
delenda

 

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Status: offline 		Ahh but virtualisation packages such as VirtualBox & Parallels (and even bare metal e.g bootcamp) require:

a) A windows license
b) An entire windows install
c) Partitioning (in the case of bootcamp)

Running with Wine would allow Command to run naturally.

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RE: Running under WINE? - 9/25/2013 10:39:23 PM   
delenda

 

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Status: offline 		Right. After several hours of messing (when I should have been playing CMANO...), I've managed to completely bork my Wine setup

As a last ditch attempt (because I thought dotnet40 might have been the culprit), I installed PortingTeams dotnet40 wrapper program and reinstalled CMANO using that but have had no joy. The sticking points I've had are:

a) When using Wineskin, D3D seems fine but it stumbles on msxml3.dll - even though it's present and installed
b) When using Wine directly, I get a load of D3D errors (image in post #10)

I've used winetricks to install msxml3, dotnet2,3,3.5,4, all of the directx options. The latest log shows:

fixme:d3d:init_driver_info Unable to find a driver/device info for vendor_id=0x10de device_id=0xfd5 for driver_model=2
fixme:win:EnumDisplayDevicesW ((null),0,0x32b888,0x00000000), stub!
err:wgl:set_win_format no top-level parent with Cocoa window in this process
err:d3d:context_create Failed to set pixel format 69 on device context 0x90050.
err:wgl:set_win_format no top-level parent with Cocoa window in this process
err:d3d:context_create Failed to set pixel format 509 on device context 0x28005d.
fixme:d3d:wined3d_get_format Can't find format WINED3DFMT_R24_UNORM_X8_TYPELESS (0x49) in the format lookup table

I'm thinking it has something to do with the Direct3D registry settings but I don't have much experience with messing around with Wine settings. Anyone else fancy a shot?

Thanks,

Andrew


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RE: Running under WINE? - 9/25/2013 11:49:21 PM   
delenda

 

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Status: offline 		I'm going to keep posting what I find, just in case it helps anyone else.

Setting Wineskin to use the X11 Graphics driver in Screen Options results in the splash screen appearing for a split second and then vanishing. Logs:

set off screen: invalid drawable
X Error of failed request: 0
Major opcode of failed request: 148 (GLX)
Minor opcode of failed request: 26 (X_GLXMakeContextCurrent)
Serial number of failed request: 1163
Current serial number in output stream: 1163

where as setting it to use the Mac Driver displays the Command splash screen but then the 'error initializing main form: Unable to create the Direct3D m_Device3d' message appers. Logs:

err:wgl:set_win_format no top-level parent with Cocoa window in this process
err:d3d:context_create Failed to set pixel format 69 on device context 0x90050.
err:wgl:set_win_format no top-level parent with Cocoa window in this process
err:d3d:context_create Failed to set pixel format 509 on device context 0xe006f.
fixme:d3d:wined3d_get_format Can't find format WINED3DFMT_R24_UNORM_X8_TYPELESS (0x49) in the format lookup table
fixme:d3d:getDepthStencilBits Unsupported depth/stencil format WINED3DFMT_UNKNOWN.

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RE: Running under WINE? - 9/26/2013 12:25:14 AM   
delenda

 

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Status: offline 		I'm now getting:

Unhandled Exception: fixme:shell:URL_ParseUrl failed to parse L"mscorlib.resources"
fixme:shell:URL_ParseUrl failed to parse L"mscorlib.resources"
System.ArgumentException: The AddressFamily 528 is not valid for the System.Net.IPEndPoint end point, use InterNetwork instead.
Parameter name: socketAddress

I suspect it might be something to do with dotnet3.5 as I can't get it installed...

Time to get some sleep!

Thanks,

Andrew

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