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Basic training after action report - 9/25/2013 8:55:05 PM   
Wookiemart

 

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Status: offline 		OK so after a couple of attempts and learning the ropes of how to take out SAM sites (the mobile ones are a real pain) I have a satisfactory result :D



Triumph with a final score of 2400 (no clue if that's good or not)

and here is the nitty gritty:

SIDE: CVW-15
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LOSSES:
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2x F-14A Tomcat
1x A-7E Corsair II


EXPENDITURES:
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8x AIM-7F Sparrow III
13x AIM-54A Phoenix
4x AIM-9L Sidewinder
30x 20mm/85 M61A1 Vulcan Burst [100 rnds]
25x Generic Chaff Salvo [5x Cartridges]
1x Generic Flare Salvo [3x Cartridges, Single Spectral]
12x AGM-45B Shrike [ARM]
9x CBU-59/B APAM [717 x BLU-77/B Dual-Purpose Bomblets]
8x AGM-62B Walleye II ER/DL
160x Mk82 500lb LDGP
16x GBU-10E/B Paveway II LGB [Mk84]



SIDE: Red Side
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LOSSES:
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4x MiG-23ML Flogger G
4x MiG-21bis Fishbed N
5x Vehicle (Low Blow [SNR-125])
8x SA-3c Goa Quad Rail
12x SA-7a Grail [9K32 Strela-2] MANPADS
3x Vehicle (Flat Face B [P-19])
13x SA-2f Guideline Mod 1/2 Single Rail
5x Vehicle (Spoon Rest C [P-12])
1x Radar (Tall King A [P-14])
5x Vehicle (Fan Song F [RSNA-75M])
6x SA-6a Gainful [2P25] TEL
10x Building (Large)
2x SA-6b Gainful [2P25] TEL
2x Vehicle (Fire Dome [9S35])
2x Vehicle (Straight Flush [1S91])
2x Runway Access Point (Very Large Aircraft)
8x A/C Hardened Aircraft Shelter (1x Medium Aircraft)


EXPENDITURES:
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8x AA-7 Apex C [R-24R, SARH]
12x SA-2f Guideline Mod 1 [S-75M2 Volkhov, 5YA23 / V-759]
17x SA-3c Goa [5V27D, V-601PD]
52x SA-6b Gainful [9M336]
9x SA-6a Gainful [9M336]
1x AA-8 Aphid [R-60T]

I had to throw pretty much everything I had at the targets but I'm happy with understanding the basics now.






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RE: Basic training after action report - 9/25/2013 9:02:52 PM   
Primarchx


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Status: offline 		Way to go! They got 90 SAMs off at you and you only lost 3 a/c? A 1:30 ratio isn't bad at all!

I'm particularly impressed by:
30x 20mm/85 M61A1 Vulcan Burst [100 rnds]


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RE: Basic training after action report - 9/25/2013 9:05:54 PM   
Wookiemart

 

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Status: offline 		I had a very tight OECM box around the launchers and made sure to reduce the threat before sending more vulnerable birds in.

I think I got most of the designated targets, the assembly and industrial buildings but I'm not sure what they meant with the third target, I am curious about the bull's eye building though is that some extra points if you destroy it?

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RE: Basic training after action report - 9/25/2013 9:19:23 PM   
Primarchx


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Status: offline 		Open it up in the Scen Editor and take a look at the Event Engine. That should tell you what was worth what.

quote:

ORIGINAL: Wookiemart

I had a very tight OECM box around the launchers and made sure to reduce the threat before sending more vulnerable birds in.

I think I got most of the designated targets, the assembly and industrial buildings but I'm not sure what they meant with the third target, I am curious about the bull's eye building though is that some extra points if you destroy it?


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RE: Basic training after action report - 9/26/2013 9:35:50 AM   
ComDev

 

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Status: offline 		Wow hehe. Expenditures look impressive.

As mentioned earlier, in the next version of the tutorial scenario the A-7s will have 4x Shrike loadouts instead of the 2x Shrikes + CBUs. So you will have 24 ARMs at your disposal rather than just 12.

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Developer "Command: Modern Air/Naval Operations" project!

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RE: Basic training after action report - 9/26/2013 2:14:13 PM   
Wookiemart

 

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Primarchx

I'm particularly impressed by:
30x 20mm/85 M61A1 Vulcan Burst [100 rnds]




I was dessperate to take that mobile sam out

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RE: Basic training after action report - 9/26/2013 4:58:35 PM   
Wookiemart

 

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Status: offline 		OK here are the results for the Submarine operations training:

Major Victory with a final score of 4

SIDE: Blue
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LOSSES:
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EXPENDITURES:
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10x Mk48 Mod 7 ADCAP CBASS
4x ADC Mk4 Mod 1 Sonar Jammer
4x ADC Mk2 Mod 0 Torpedo Decoy
4x ADC Mk2 Mod 3 Torpedo Decoy
2x UGM-109C Tomahawk Blk III TLAM
3x UGM-109C Tomahawk Blk III TLAM
1x UGM-109E Tomahawk Blk IV TACTOM



SIDE: Red (Submarine)
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LOSSES:
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1x Type 091 Han


EXPENDITURES:
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2x Generic Acoustic Decoy



SIDE: Red (Surface)
===========================================================

LOSSES:
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1x Type 052 Luhu [113 Qingdao]


EXPENDITURES:
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1x A.244



SIDE: Red (Surface + Air)
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LOSSES:
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1x Ka-27PL Helix A
1x BPK Udaloy II [Pr.1155.1]
1x Building (Medium)


EXPENDITURES:
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21x RGB-75 [Basic Search, Passive Omni]
3x APR-2 Orlan-M
1x USET-80

This one was a lot easier and I guess all those hours of playing 688 attack sub back in the day didn't hurt ;)


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RE: Basic training after action report - 9/26/2013 5:48:37 PM   
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ORIGINAL: emsoy

Wow hehe. Expenditures look impressive.

As mentioned earlier, in the next version of the tutorial scenario the A-7s will have 4x Shrike loadouts instead of the 2x Shrikes + CBUs. So you will have 24 ARMs at your disposal rather than just 12.


I'd rather have them actually use those CBUs when they're on a SEAD mission. You're not trying to cover up any bugs there, are you?

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RE: Basic training after action report - 9/26/2013 5:57:20 PM   
Wookiemart

 

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Der Zeitgeist


quote:

ORIGINAL: emsoy

Wow hehe. Expenditures look impressive.

As mentioned earlier, in the next version of the tutorial scenario the A-7s will have 4x Shrike loadouts instead of the 2x Shrikes + CBUs. So you will have 24 ARMs at your disposal rather than just 12.


I'd rather have them actually use those CBUs when they're on a SEAD mission. You're not trying to cover up any bugs there, are you?


I don't know that the bomblets are actually OP (or buged if you will). I found them quite powerful but in doing a bomb run without any OECM support the planes were shot down after (and often before) delivering the payload. The Shrikes however can be delivered from much farther away even if they have less of a guarantee to hit the target they do increase the survival rate of both pilot and plane.

That being said I'm not sure that removing the bomblets completely from the payload options is a good idea. Maybe just adding 2 more planes to the roster with the same payload would help cover more targets. As it stands I doubt anyone could destroy ALL the buildings with the current payloads available.

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RE: Basic training after action report - 9/26/2013 6:13:12 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Wookiemart
quote:

ORIGINAL: Der Zeitgeist
I'd rather have them actually use those CBUs when they're on a SEAD mission. You're not trying to cover up any bugs there, are you?


I don't know that the bomblets are actually OP (or buged if you will).


The CBUs are working just fine, but there seems to be a problem with the mission AI that prevents the plane from actually dropping them under AI control, when you keep the altitude on automatic. The planes don't adjust their altitudde to get within release parameters, so the CBUs don't get dropped while on a mission.

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RE: Basic training after action report - 9/26/2013 6:28:36 PM   
Wookiemart

 

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ORIGINAL: Der Zeitgeist

The CBUs are working just fine, but there seems to be a problem with the mission AI that prevents the plane from actually dropping them under AI control, when you keep the altitude on automatic. The planes don't adjust their altitudde to get within release parameters, so the CBUs don't get dropped while on a mission.



AH I see what you mean now, I just assumed it was standard procedure for the AI to use the weapons that were the safest by default.

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