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RE: The old world vs the new: Cannonfodder (Allies) vs ... - 10/4/2013 11:35:06 PM   
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Status: offline 		That makes two of us... There will be a lot of ships in the destination hex, including two surface groups.. That's a lot of targets. KB seems to be protected by one big and one small surface group. That's less targets and higher chances that the carriers are targeted..

Its all about the spotting game now...

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RE: The old world vs the new: Cannonfodder (Allies) vs ... - 10/5/2013 12:19:51 AM   
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RE: The old world vs the new: Cannonfodder (Allies) vs ... - 10/5/2013 5:09:17 AM   
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Its all about the spotting game now...


It's a pity you still have the TBD's instead of the TBF's with their longer range. (Neither one is going to get a torpedo hit in April '42, so you might as well use them for search.)

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RE: The old world vs the new: Cannonfodder (Allies) vs ... - 10/5/2013 7:52:27 AM   
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I have an AO group just of the northern tip of New Zealand with about 40.000 fuel. My bunkers were topped of when I went in so fuel situation is good enough to kill any stragglers (if any.... and if I have any carriers left). Not worried about fuel....

Capt. Harlock
Well, the TBD-1s are flying at extended range. If they do not use the torpedo they'll bomb or at least draw away attention from the SBDs (as you all know the real allied weapon in 1942)..

No turn or replay yet...

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RE: The old world vs the new: Cannonfodder (Allies) vs ... - 10/5/2013 8:09:05 AM   
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Status: offline 		I did something very similar in my game. A little bit later and I had avengers instead of devastators. My opponent also had the mini KB thrown in. It ended in a draw with both kakus sunk together with Soryu and Hosho. I lost only the Wasp in the first encounter. But on day 2 I lost the Enterprise and Yorktown. They were unable to conduct flight ops after the first day and the huge LRCAP set over them failed to show up for unknown reasons. So it could have ended in a 3-1 favor for the allies if the LRCAP had shown up.

That being said I wouldn´t to it again. I got really lucky with the weather and my CVs were under a thunderstorm while my opponents was under light rain. I also got really lucky only a very small strike went for the mini KB in another hex and a good coordinated strike went for the KB. Knowing this game it could just as easily have been the other way around. Or I could have gotten 10 small strikes which none would have penetrated CAP. You just never know.

I would say it could go either way for you. CV battles is just like a crapshoot. You can stack the odds heavily in your favor and still get mauled. But you can afford to lose. Quixote can´t. Fingers crossed its your day when the dust settles!

Good luck!

PS. Did you get any sleep tonight or were you up every hour checking for the turn?

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RE: The old world vs the new: Cannonfodder (Allies) vs ... - 10/5/2013 8:15:50 AM   
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Status: offline 		Joc, usually Quixote has a turn in by now (or at least the replay). The fact that he hasn't makes me a bit nervous.. Can't even do chores while I wait. My feet is encasted due to an accident (tripped over a small cabinet)

Your right about carrier battles. But for april 1942 this situation is not bad. He has more torpedo bombers but I outnumber him in fighters and divebombers. In addition I have more ships in the fight so perhaps his attacks get scattered or focus on just a couple of the TFs, leaving at least a few carriers alone.

His carriers are probably all in one, tops two TFs so once detected all carriers can be attacked by the allies..

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RE: The old world vs the new: Cannonfodder (Allies) vs ... - 10/5/2013 8:31:10 AM   
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Status: offline 		Watched the replay: IJN Carriers retreated in the direction of Fiji...

No fight today

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RE: The old world vs the new: Cannonfodder (Allies) vs ... - 10/5/2013 8:32:03 AM   
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Status: offline 		Also, if he doesn´t expect trouble he might be a bit lax with his CAP settings favoring escort/sweep instead. Fingers crossed.


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RE: The old world vs the new: Cannonfodder (Allies) vs ... - 10/5/2013 8:32:47 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Cannonfodder

Watched the replay: IJN Carriers retreated in the direction of Fiji...

No fight today


Haha, I hate when that happens! All the missed sleep and anxious wait. All for nothing!

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RE: The old world vs the new: Cannonfodder (Allies) vs ... - 10/5/2013 9:31:08 AM   
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RE: The old world vs the new: Cannonfodder (Allies) vs ... - 10/5/2013 9:32:02 AM   
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Status: offline 		It isn't over yet. His carriers can still turn around (he spotted one of my CV TFs, not sure if he knows what I've got there)...

To avoid extreme range combat I move my TFs to the other side of Norfolk Island. If he tries to fight and 7 hexes range based on my current position we'll miss each other again. If he moves in for a knife fight then we'll fight regardless and I'll have the mined Island between the carriers and his forces.

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RE: The old world vs the new: Cannonfodder (Allies) vs ... - 10/5/2013 2:03:08 PM   
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Pacific

The Japanese carriers continue to move east (now south of Suva) and no contact is made. I'm withdrawing the carriers to Sydney for minor repairs and fuel.

India

Still a lot of action in the skies over Madras. The groups defending Madras are tired and are finally brushed aside by the allied fighters. Airbase at Madras now shows 50+ damage (now bombing with 64 Blenheims and 16 Wellingtons). Quixote has no way to rail damaged fighters out so I'll continue to bomb the airbase into pulp.

Air losses are about 50 for each side in the end (Hurricanes, P40s, H81s and a couple of Blenheims vs Oscar Ib, Ic and a nice amount of A6M2s)

Following groups were met in combat.

CAP engaged:
15th Ku S-1 /C with A6M2 Zero
Tainan Ku S-1/C with A6M2 Zero
1st Sentai with Ki-43-Ic Oscar
64th Sentai Det with Ki-43-Ib Oscar

I'm adding the 17th Indian to the attack on Madras itself, bringing AV to about 1720 AV (including 80 tanks) and 4 artillery regiments (3 x 25 pounders and 1 x 5.5"). This should give me a 3:1 ratio unless reinforcements are moved in.

Albacores are moved to Bangalore to interdict any shipping unloading troops/supplies at Madras.




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RE: The old world vs the new: Cannonfodder (Allies) vs ... - 10/5/2013 3:56:40 PM   
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RE: The old world vs the new: Cannonfodder (Allies) vs ... - 10/5/2013 4:11:19 PM   
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Status: offline 		I faced a similar problem in my current game. The main objective for the IJ was to destroy as much commonwealth as possible and take advantage of the automatic withdrawals.

My strategy was to pin troops down and trade space for blood and time. One thing about this game ...a unit consisting of a single squad can cut a road .. so as the IJ advanced CW units behind the lines interdicted roads in strategic places .. soon the IJ are wanting for supplies and movement/combat are greatly affected. Right now late April 1942 India is well consumed by the IJ but most of his units want for supplies. Also, much of INdia is open terrain .. so if you have no restrictions on ground bombing .. it is a nice way to attrite the IJA ..

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RE: The old world vs the new: Cannonfodder (Allies) vs ... - 10/6/2013 8:22:42 AM   
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Burma

Japanese troops start to reduce the Myitkyina pocket, the last resistance in Burma..

Ground combat at Myitkyina (64,42)

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 21926 troops, 242 guns, 79 vehicles, Assault Value = 759

Defending force 12483 troops, 105 guns, 181 vehicles, Assault Value = 370

Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 2

Japanese adjusted assault: 616

Allied adjusted defense: 280

Japanese assault odds: 2 to 1 (fort level 2)

Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), fatigue(-), morale(-), experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker: shock(+)

Japanese ground losses:
1172 casualties reported
Squads: 4 destroyed, 117 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 8 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 9 disabled
Guns lost 6 (3 destroyed, 3 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
728 casualties reported
Squads: 15 destroyed, 78 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 12 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 2 disabled
Vehicles lost 3 (2 destroyed, 1 disabled)

Assaulting units:
5th Division
112th Infantry Regiment
17th Indpt Guards Regiment
15th Army
55th Mountain Gun Regiment
21st Medium Field Artillery Battalion

Defending units:
BFF Brigade
1st Gloucestershire Battalion
3rd Burma Rifles Battalion
Rangoon BAF Battalion
44th Indian Brigade
45th Indian Brigade
101st RAF Base Force
104th RAF Base Force
Burma Corps
1st Burma Auxiliary AA Regiment
103rd RAF Base Force
106th RAF Base Force

If the game would flip into 1943 now it would be an autovictory...A lot of the points scored are due to dead chinese troops and upgraded bases. Quixote is really making an effort as my next screenshot will show..








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RE: The old world vs the new: Cannonfodder (Allies) vs ... - 10/6/2013 8:27:32 AM   
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RE: The old world vs the new: Cannonfodder (Allies) vs ... - 10/6/2013 2:52:33 PM   
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RE: The old world vs the new: Cannonfodder (Allies) vs ... - 10/6/2013 3:00:13 PM   
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Status: offline 		No, thats the multiplier that side gets for building up that base. If the number is (50) that side gets 50 points for building up a port to 1 and 100 for building up the airfield to 1...

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RE: The old world vs the new: Cannonfodder (Allies) vs ... - 10/6/2013 3:08:26 PM   
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India

A high risk afternoon low altitude bomb run on Bangalore is effective in destroying aircraft on the ground (a lot of aircraft stacked at the base, especially in the afternoon phase). Flak is destructive and shoots down more then 50% of the Nells and about 30% of the attacking Betties. Here is hoping that they were experienced torpedo bombers (the devastating bombing accuracy despite heavy flak supports this theory)...

The main problem: the allied can't afford to lose the frames.....

I am moving the bombers to Hyderabad for now. In normal range but outside Ceylon bomber range... In addition, Bangalore will receive 72 more Bofors. Also going to buy out the Ceylon HAA brigade (72 3.7" AA guns)...

Afternoon Air attack on Bangalore , at 32,37

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 46 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 18 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 14
G3M2 Nell x 20
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 37

Allied aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
G3M2 Nell: 8 damaged
G3M2 Nell: 4 destroyed by flak

Allied aircraft losses
P-40E Warhawk: 13 damaged
P-40E Warhawk: 2 destroyed on ground
Blenheim IV: 36 damaged
Blenheim IV: 3 destroyed on ground
Wellington Ic: 13 damaged
H81-A3: 21 damaged
H81-A3: 1 destroyed on ground
Hurricane IIb Trop: 11 damaged
Hurricane IIb Trop: 1 destroyed on ground

Airbase hits 7
Airbase supply hits 8
Runway hits 22

Aircraft Attacking:
17 x G3M2 Nell bombing from 8000 feet
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb

Afternoon Air attack on Bangalore , at 32,37

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 36 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 15

Allied aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 5 damaged
G4M1 Betty: 2 destroyed by flak

Allied aircraft losses
Wellington Ic: 2 damaged
Blenheim IV: 10 damaged
Blenheim IV: 2 destroyed on ground
Hurricane IIb Trop: 6 damaged
Hurricane IIb Trop: 1 destroyed on ground
H81-A3: 2 damaged
H81-A3: 1 destroyed on ground

Runway hits 11

Aircraft Attacking:
13 x G4M1 Betty bombing from 12000 feet
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb






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RE: The old world vs the new: Cannonfodder (Allies) vs ... - 10/6/2013 3:13:57 PM   
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Status: offline 		I see, I have to look into Tracker. I just looked back to post #150, Japan has occupied all the really nice staging areas in the Pacific as well. Ndeni, Kira Kira, Koumac, Tabiteuea, etc. it looks like an opposed amphibious operation will be necessary to pry some initiative back and retake some heavy VP locations before winter. Now I see why a confrontation with Kido Butai at Norfolk may have been a strategic lever for you. I would consider a strong presence in the Ellice Islands, I think if he took them you may well go blind in the central Pacific.

ps Curious, You should be able to operate 2 P38 squadrons soon and F4s as well. Have you thought about where to employ them as yet? I flew some from Eua with success against the Fiji's while Libs and D model forts flew from Pago Pago. It took six weeks but I was able to gain local air superiority and land in the Fiji's. I just realized when Suva falls it will trim over 1200nm off the Australian convoy rout, not including some "hitches" I have in it to avoid the submarines.

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RE: The old world vs the new: Cannonfodder (Allies) vs ... - 10/6/2013 3:18:31 PM   
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Status: offline 		I still hold Canton Island. I am worried about the gap that the loss of Fiji will leave. Thinking about setting up a forward base at Eua. Drawback of that is that is in range of Suva once it falls. Pro is that I can build up the airfield and give it decent protection.

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RE: The old world vs the new: Cannonfodder (Allies) vs ... - 10/6/2013 3:25:01 PM   
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Status: offline 		Perhaps at least a seaplane tender in the Ellice Islands for some early warning. I'm sure he will flaunt the KB and cause those mass merchant exoduses I have become so quick at.

ps Eua is only good for P38s and F4s. I had one or two successful port raids with Mitchells but they rapidly depleted supply.

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RE: The old world vs the new: Cannonfodder (Allies) vs ... - 10/6/2013 5:06:33 PM   
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India


The air war over Bangalore and Madras continues. Sweeps above Madras are reduced to two squadrons while bombing continues at full strength (slightly reduced due to the airfield raid).

As expected Quixote sweeps Bangalore. The A6Ms are outnumbered and the results favour the allies (about 20 A6Ms shot down). For the next turn I'm keeping strong CAP up, still using two squadrons to sweep and resting one of the hurricane squadrons.

The allies have enough fighters in the pool and in reserve to keep this up for a while. Backing of now would just mean senseless losses. We want Madras! This would prove that allies can secure local air superiority even in april 1942..

Afternoon Air attack on Bangalore , at 32,37

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 43 NM, estimated altitude 21,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 14 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 39

Allied aircraft
H81-A3 x 9
Hurricane IIb Trop x 21
Kittyhawk IA x 10
P-40E Warhawk x 22

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 7 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Hurricane IIb Trop: 1 destroyed
Kittyhawk IA: 1 destroyed
P-40E Warhawk: 3 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x A6M2 Zero sweeping at 20000 feet

CAP engaged:
AVG/3rd Sqn with H81-A3 (2 airborne, 7 on standby, 0 scrambling)
9 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 19000 and 20000.
Raid is overhead
No.17 Sqn RAF with Hurricane IIb Trop (0 airborne, 5 on standby, 0 scrambling)
5 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 2 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 20000 and 22000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 38 minutes
No.67 Sqn RAF with Hurricane IIb Trop (0 airborne, 5 on standby, 0 scrambling)
5 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 18000 , scrambling fighters between 18000 and 21000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 7 minutes
No.135 Sqn RAF with Hurricane IIb Trop (0 airborne, 5 on standby, 0 scrambling)
5 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 23000 and 25000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 7 minutes
No.453 Sqn RAF with Kittyhawk IA (0 airborne, 7 on standby, 0 scrambling)
7 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 16000 and 22000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 5 minutes
35th PG/40th PS with P-40E Warhawk (0 airborne, 8 on standby, 0 scrambling)
8 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 15000 and 22000.
Raid is overhead
35th PG/41st PS with P-40E Warhawk (3 airborne, 7 on standby, 0 scrambling)
10 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 20000 and 23000.
Raid is overhead

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RE: The old world vs the new: Cannonfodder (Allies) vs ... - 10/7/2013 12:10:49 PM   
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India

The battle for Madras continues with slightly heavier losses to the allied bombers and fighters (Quixote now uses 4,5 groups to LRCAP Madras). I'm keeping at it with the first deliberate attack going in on the 20th (after prepping the target with Marauders and Blenheims)..

Can consider this is a succes. The IG is largely undamaged but the tank regiment is almost entirely disabled. Will rest a day and then hit Madras again...

Ground combat at Madras (35,40)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 41881 troops, 629 guns, 1185 vehicles, Assault Value = 1500

Defending force 16137 troops, 200 guns, 174 vehicles, Assault Value = 547

Allied adjusted assault: 1573

Japanese adjusted defense: 931

Allied assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 3)

Allied Assault reduces fortifications to 2

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
374 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 38 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 9 disabled
Engineers: 2 destroyed, 4 disabled
Vehicles lost 72 (5 destroyed, 67 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
1081 casualties reported
Squads: 5 destroyed, 131 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 26 disabled
Engineers: 2 destroyed, 18 disabled
Guns lost 30 (1 destroyed, 29 disabled)

Assaulting units:
6th Australian Division
7th Armoured Brigade
7th Australian Division
17th Indian Division
2/9th Field Regiment
2/11th Field Regiment
2/13th Field Regiment
India Command
8th Medium Regiment

Defending units:
1st Tank Regiment
Imperial Guards Division
15th Ind. Engineer Regiment
36th Field AA Battalion
2nd Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
97th JAAF AF Bn
3rd Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment
5th RF Gun Bn /5




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RE: The old world vs the new: Cannonfodder (Allies) vs ... - 10/7/2013 12:37:06 PM   
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The two biggest problems in China
- Constant bombing
- Lack of supply..




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RE: The old world vs the new: Cannonfodder (Allies) vs ... - 10/7/2013 12:40:15 PM   
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RE: The old world vs the new: Cannonfodder (Allies) vs ... - 10/7/2013 9:21:34 PM   
KenchiSulla


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India

Had a deliberate attack going in at Madras on the 22nd but Quixote influenced the battle:

- Tokio express rushing in more and more reinforcements from Ceylon and
- a TF revolving around Mutsu and Yamashiro bombards the troops sieging Madras and cause considerable damage

Night Naval bombardment of Madras at 35,40

Japanese Ships
BB Yamashiro
BB Mutsu

Allied ground losses:
201 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 16 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 20 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 3 (1 destroyed, 2 disabled)

BB Yamashiro firing at 6th Australian Division
BB Mutsu firing at 7th Australian Division

For two consecutive turns air refuses to fly (except LRCAP and CAP)so that didn't help either. Up till now I haven't lost many squads so I'll withdraw outside of naval bombardment range and rest the units. That means leaving the hex for now..

The only + of the last turn was Chokai eating a torpedo. No major damage but she'll need a bit of yard time. I've started a mining campaign at Madras, using submarines so let's see if we can do some damage there..

The actual attack wasn't shock. That was just the recce battalion crossing the river, trying to close down Madras.

Ground combat at Madras (35,40)

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 41845 troops, 642 guns, 1246 vehicles, Assault Value = 1413

Defending force 18375 troops, 242 guns, 227 vehicles, Assault Value = 649

Allied adjusted assault: 662

Japanese adjusted defense: 2177

Allied assault odds: 1 to 3 (fort level 2)

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), preparation(-)
Attacker: shock(+)

Japanese ground losses:
694 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 7 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 10 disabled
Engineers: 32 destroyed, 45 disabled
Guns lost 26 (5 destroyed, 21 disabled)
Vehicles lost 27 (3 destroyed, 24 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
1645 casualties reported
Squads: 6 destroyed, 154 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 40 disabled
Engineers: 3 destroyed, 36 disabled
Guns lost 41 (1 destroyed, 40 disabled)
Vehicles lost 22 (3 destroyed, 19 disabled)

Assaulting units:
6th Australian Division
7th Armoured Brigade
7th Australian Division
45th Recce Regiment
17th Indian Division
2/11th Field Regiment
2/9th Field Regiment
2/13th Field Regiment
India Command
8th Medium Regiment

Defending units:
15th Ind. Engineer Regiment
1st Tank Regiment
Imperial Guards Division
4th Tank Rgt /9
18th/A Div /30
3rd Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment
36th Field AA Battalion
5th RF Gun Battalion
2nd Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
97th JAAF AF Bn

< Message edited by Cannonfodder -- 10/7/2013 9:25:30 PM >

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RE: The old world vs the new: Cannonfodder (Allies) vs ... - 10/7/2013 9:24:46 PM   
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Status: offline 		Time to start that mental preparing for the inevitable loss of China... Once the supply is gone its game over.

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RE: The old world vs the new: Cannonfodder (Allies) vs ... - 10/7/2013 9:28:32 PM   
KenchiSulla


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Status: offline 		Hey Joc, it's even worse. This might become the first PBEM that I know of that ends due to japanese autovictory. China is a big factor in this. So many squads lost and a couple of nice bases to build up for points.

I'm going to work on a new strategy this week because this is going nowhere...

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RE: The old world vs the new: Cannonfodder (Allies) vs ... - 10/8/2013 2:16:06 AM   
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Status: offline 		That little move into the central plain with 1200av was down right dastardly, sneaking through the woods like that, he ought to be ashamed!
rooting for ya Cannon!!!

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