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Import/Export Facilities DB: Get them here - 10/13/2013 4:07:34 PM   
vettim89


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Status: offline 		I have been doing a lot of work on some Cold War Era scenarios. Much of that work involves creating facilities like Stornaway for post 1979 scenarios. Currently working on a scenario Based on Red Storm Rising. My question is: is there a way to share this work with the forum. It takes a lot of work and just seems a shame to put all the time and effort into the creation of facilities and not be able to share the work

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RE: Import/Export Facilities DB - 10/13/2013 4:24:30 PM   
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Status: offline 		Great idea, I'm also building a lot of facilties right now, in the 1985-86 timeframe. We should get a sticky for this, so people can post their creations.

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RE: Import/Export Facilities DB - 10/16/2013 9:53:27 AM   
brassem


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Status: offline 		At the moment the ingame import/export directories seems to be one each for a single country. I am sure you can drill down the directory structure to get to specific sub directories to create, load and save. (Having said that I have only used added flat directories.)

Each facility structure built and exported has its own .inst filename. If everyone is doing their favourite facility without some sort of naming standard, it will soon turn to a shambles with no hope of forming some sort of Data Base from these files. So I propose a filenaming standard for facilities that will help in compiling all this work into some database format. The filename would be made up of a series of description blocks for ease of database manipulation. Space separated between description blocks. Underscored between words in the description block for better human readability without destroying the blocks structure.

NATION STATE LAND/SEA FACILITYNAME DATE AUTHORBUILD .inst

So my facility that I've built would become export filename;

Australia NT LAND HMAS_Coonawarra_Naval_Base 2013 brassem_build_012 .inst

Listed for clarity ->

Australia -> Nation
NT -> Region
LAND -> Facility Type
HMAS_Coonawarra_Naval_Base -> Facility Name
2013 -> Relevance (by date)
brassem_build_012 -> Author and version
.inst

Please note the space before the .inst

Using a filename structure as above I feel would make the whole process of managing many facilities so much easier.

Yes, no, problems or improvements?...

EDIT: Would probably work if you could resize the left dialog window panel to see the full facility names to import. Unfortunately you cant. You have to use the horizontal scroll buttons to view a column snapshot of the facility files. Back to short filenames then...


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RE: Import/Export Facilities DB - 10/16/2013 7:36:23 PM   
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RE: Import/Export Facilities DB - 10/16/2013 7:50:32 PM   
Der Zeitgeist


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RE: Import/Export Facilities DB - 10/16/2013 10:36:54 PM   
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Status: offline 		It would be good if they could be hosted here on the matrixgames servers as a central location.

Edit: Still no solution on where we can host facility files?



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RE: Import/Export Facilities DB - 10/20/2013 1:18:41 AM   
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ORIGINAL: brassem

It would be good if they could be hosted here on the matrixgames servers as a central location.

Edit: Still no solution on where we can host facility files?


I guess I thought they go into the thread thats labeled "Import/Export Facilities DB: Get them here", http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=3436427 , Am I wrong?

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RE: Import/Export Facilities DB - 10/20/2013 3:13:39 AM   
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RE: Import/Export Facilities DB - 10/20/2013 3:42:27 AM   
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RE: Import/Export Facilities DB - 10/20/2013 3:28:35 PM   
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ORIGINAL: brassem

It would be good if they could be hosted here on the matrixgames servers as a central location.

Edit: Still no solution on where we can host facility files?

Edit; Ok, so here is my attachments;
Australian Facilites (1)
Indonesian Facilites (1)
Oceania Facilites (1)
US Facilites (1)
Soviet Facilites (1)
Russian Facilites (1)
NATO Facilites (1)
kistan Facilites (1)


I can't get'em

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RE: Import/Export Facilities DB - 10/20/2013 7:30:53 PM   
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RE: Import/Export Facilities DB - 10/20/2013 7:32:17 PM   
bsq


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ORIGINAL: Rudd


quote:

ORIGINAL: brassem

It would be good if they could be hosted here on the matrixgames servers as a central location.

Edit: Still no solution on where we can host facility files?

Edit; Ok, so here is my attachments;
Australian Facilites (1)
Indonesian Facilites (1)
Oceania Facilites (1)
US Facilites (1)
Soviet Facilites (1)
Russian Facilites (1)
NATO Facilites (1)
kistan Facilites (1)


I can't get'em

You can only attach one file per post... so thats why... The OP needs to create a post for each file.

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RE: Import/Export Facilities DB - 10/20/2013 8:19:41 PM   
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RE: Import/Export Facilities DB - 10/20/2013 8:27:52 PM   
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Can' they be zipped together?

Provided its less than 5Mb total. But the OP will have to do that.

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RE: Import/Export Facilities DB - 10/21/2013 1:09:14 AM   
Rudd

 

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Status: offline 		"The Iranian Project" includes(so far)

1. Airbase AAA defensive positions only
2. Airbases(shipped) with the AAA
3. EW AAA defensive positions
4. SAM AAA defensive positions
5. Nuclear facilities AAA defensive positions, Added Bushehr and Fordow Nuclear facilities
6. Geothermal/gas/wind/hydroelectric powerplants, dams, oil refineries.(all single-unit)
7. WMD research and related buildings and complexes(single-unit)
8. AddedPorts(work in progress), Bushehr(north) and Abu Musa
9. AddedSSM Complexes, additions to (shipped)Khorrammabad Imam Ali and the Kermanshah/Bakhtaran SSM complexes, added Quds SSM complex

includes a ton of 23mm ZU-23-2 and 35mm Oerlikon/Skyguard units!

Note to scenario writers regarding the AAA:
The units in these files are placed where actual AAA "pads"(not AAA pieces) are located using open source imagery(mostly GE).
1. Once imported around a given facility, 50% should be deleted considering the (x2), Command uses a "dispersal radius"(basically 1 hellfire can't destroy a ground unit that is a x4 or in this case a ZU-23-2 (x2).
2. Delete another 50%(probably ~70% or more) after that to simulate maintenance issues and actual number of AA pieces (just because there are 58 "pads" around a facility, doesn't mean there is 58 actual functioning artillery pieces).
3. The more units that are in a scenario, the harder your cpu has to work(slows down).
4. Realism is what I think most of us are trying to achieve.

Example:
58 pads around facility - 50%(because of the x2) = 29 - another 50% or more (because of realism) = 14 or so(8 or 9 if you subtract ~70%), make sense

more to come






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RE: Import/Export Facilities DB - 11/4/2013 2:04:00 PM   
Rudd

 

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CSG-1, CSG-3, CSG-5, CSG-9, CSG-11, ESG-7, LCSRON-1, PHIBRON-1, PHIBRON-3, PHIBRON-5, NAVSURFGRU MIDPAC, SUBDEVRON-5, SUBRON-1, SUBRON-7, SUBRON-11, SUBRON-15, SUBRON-17 AND SUBRON-19.

Scenario writer notes: From late 2013. VFA's have 10-12 aircraft, here they have 12, easier to delete if needed. Carriers only have 1 helo of given type to preserve squadron name, no aircraft on any other ship. Carrier/ship magazines need filled. Squadron names are the "callsigns". Formations need to be set. No replenishment vessels. Some escorts may not be underway with assigned group, maintenance/dry dock other duties. PHIBRONs have no escorts. Subs surely don't deploy in large groups.

Fleet Forces(Atlantic fleet) coming soon



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RE: Import/Export Facilities DB - 11/5/2013 2:26:17 PM   
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ORIGINAL: bsq


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ORIGINAL: Rudd


quote:

ORIGINAL: brassem

It would be good if they could be hosted here on the matrixgames servers as a central location.

Edit: Still no solution on where we can host facility files?

Edit; Ok, so here is my attachments;
Australian Facilites (1)
Indonesian Facilites (1)
Oceania Facilites (1)
US Facilites (1)
Soviet Facilites (1)
Russian Facilites (1)
NATO Facilites (1)
kistan Facilites (1)


I can't get'em

You can only attach one file per post... so thats why... The OP needs to create a post for each file.




heya, i would love to get these also - they would be all a small file size i imagine so perhaps they can all just go into a single zip file

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RE: Import/Export Facilities DB - 11/18/2013 6:04:52 PM   
orca

 

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Status: offline 		I'm not able to download the attachment from the link on your post. Do you know if it works?

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RE: Import/Export Facilities DB - 11/19/2013 1:06:10 PM   
Rudd

 

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I'm not able to download the attachment from the link on your post. Do you know if it works?

Not sure which attachment/link you're talking about...

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RE: Import/Export Facilities DB - 11/20/2013 8:13:12 PM   
orca

 

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US-Pacific Fleet, including

CSG-1, CSG-3, CSG-5, CSG-9, CSG-11, ESG-7, LCSRON-1, PHIBRON-1, PHIBRON-3, PHIBRON-5, NAVSURFGRU MIDPAC, SUBDEVRON-5, SUBRON-1, SUBRON-7, SUBRON-11, SUBRON-15, SUBRON-17 AND SUBRON-19.

Scenario writer notes: From late 2013. VFA's have 10-12 aircraft, here they have 12, easier to delete if needed. Carriers only have 1 helo of given type to preserve squadron name, no aircraft on any other ship. Carrier/ship magazines need filled. Squadron names are the "callsigns". Formations need to be set. No replenishment vessels. Some escorts may not be underway with assigned group, maintenance/dry dock other duties. PHIBRONs have no escorts. Subs surely don't deploy in large groups.

Fleet Forces(Atlantic fleet) coming soon



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RE: Import/Export Facilities DB - 11/21/2013 4:04:53 AM   
orca

 

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RE: Import/Export Facilities DB - 1/3/2014 6:40:51 PM   
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I tried to export an Airbase with all Aircrafts included. But when I reimport the Airbase, all Aircrafts are gone. If I edit the imported .inst file with a text editor, I can see, that the aircrafts are in the file, I just don't get them imported. I ask me (you )What am I doing wrong?

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RE: Import/Export Facilities DB - 1/3/2014 7:01:59 PM   
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You're not doing anything wrong. The import/export function currently does not support storing an airbase's aircraft complement.

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RE: Import/Export Facilities DB - 1/4/2014 7:09:44 AM   
hoover


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thank you for your quick reply.

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RE: Import/Export Facilities DB - 1/5/2014 8:32:53 PM   
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Status: offline 		This package contains two import files with every JASDF and JMSDF air base I found as single unit bases.


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RE: Import/Export Facilities DB - 1/6/2014 5:13:31 PM   
ventris

 

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Status: offline 		Multi unit air bases for the JASDF and JMSDF

JASDF:
Miho AB
Gifu AB
Shizuhama AB

JMSDF:
Maizuru AB
Tateyama AB

More later.

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RE: Import/Export Facilities DB - 1/21/2014 1:31:39 AM   
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RE: Import/Export Facilities DB - 1/23/2014 9:58:45 PM   
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Status: offline 		Polish Air Force - facilities

This pack contains:

- all Polish Air Force bases (modeled as individual facilities, not single units) which are operational (as of 2014) and have combat units stationed except for Krakow-Balice AFB (8th Transport Airbase) which is actually part of Cracow International Airport and Warszawa-Okecie AFB (1st Transport Airbase) which is part of Warsaw International Airport.
- six NATO long range radar sites (NATO backbone) operated by Air Force. As the current DB (403) does not contain NUR-12M/TRD-1222 all radars are modeled as RAT-31DL but name of site indicates correct radar type.
- peace time locations of all Air Force radar sites. The current database does not contain required sensor types (NUR-31, NUR-41 and TRS-15), so they are all modeled as NUR-12 (TRD-1211) radars (I used unit RM-100 and replaced radar sensor).

Notes:
1. All objects placed at precise locations as indicated by Google/Bing satelite maps (I did not used overlays for radar sites, so they are placed with 1" of arc precision).
2. All airbases in this file have a long history and have been build before or during 2nd World War, so the locations and most facilities are valid from early 1950s. The only exception is Minsk Mazowiecki AFB which has been opened in 1957.
3. krt in the radar site name stands for "Kompania Radiotechniczna" (Radiotechnical Company). Each krt operates more than one radar unit - in the file just one radar is modeled.
4. I plan to update the package with correct types of radars as soon as they are included in database.
5. KMZ file containing all radar sites can be found at: drive.google.com/file/d/0B_vdeIgZhq1cVjF5Uk9MMUFkZ00/edit?usp=sharing
6. Overlays for airbases can be downloaded (300MB zip) from: docs.google.com/uc?id=0B_vdeIgZhq1cSXRpaTZ4MG1PVG8&export=download
7. Polish Navy operates its own network of radars - they are not included yet.
8. Air Force SAM sites will be included in future.
9. Source information can be found at: infowsparcie.net/wria/o_autorze/wrt.html



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RE: Import/Export Facilities DB - 3/30/2014 10:19:13 PM   
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RE: Import/Export Facilities DB - 6/6/2014 12:14:25 PM   
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