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RE: Once Again into the Breech - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A) - 10/14/2013 3:56:00 PM

Mike Solli

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5 Nov 42

Burma: Still no relief from the supply situation. 9k begins unloading at Rangoon tomorrow. I've decided to send 50k a month from the Home Islands so I sent another convoy out a day or so ago. That's a 3 week trip one way. I've got the SRA bases that produce a lot of supply sending excess supply to Rangoon: Balikpapan, Palembang and Soerabaja so far. Among them, there's ~50k headed up there.

Anyway, those Vengeances are still bombing untouched.

I could butcher them if only for a few supply points.

SE Fleet: I set an ambush over Lae with my Nicks. Ten showed up for the party but couldn't shoot anything down, and lost one of their number for their effort, but the pilot survived. The SE corner of PNG is doomed. His bombers prevent me from doing anything there other than die.

Once he takes Lae, probably a month or so from now, the party will truly begin there.

4 Fleet: I spotted a AVD at Baker Island but had no way to attack it. He hasn't upgraded the island at all so I suspect it's there to provide Cat support. I sent a TF of 7x Fubukis and a CL but they'll make Tarawa only tomorrow. A Glen sub will be in range to investigate tomorrow. If the ship is still there, I'll send the surface ships in for a little target practice. Moonlight is just about gone too, which is nice.

5 Fleet: I sent KB2 up there from Davao today, but they won't make it for 8 days. It turns out there are a couple of PT boats and a couple of AMs at Adak. Nothing else is i sight, but, to be honest, I have only 2 Emilies up there scouting, along with a handful of Glens. KB1 remains 11 hexes west of Adak. The replenishment TF is a couple of days out, but KB1 has no fuel shortage right now.

Ching: The 3rd attack against the 3 surrounded units happened again destroying the HQ and corps. Only a decimated construction regiment remains. I suspect it's gone tomorrow.

I caught up with the smashed army heading south out of the Changsha complex and will attack it tomorrow. I expect to push it farther south on the road.

Other Stuff:

The A6M5b R&D advanced to April 44. With a gain of 12% a day, it will advance a month every 8-9 days now.

I have allocated all of my R&D factories and have expanded them all to 30. Here's how it's allocated (whether good or bad):

Oscar: 30, 30, 30, 3 (IIb, 3/43, 61%)
Tojo: 30, 30, 30 (IIc, 2/44, 62%)
Tony: 30, 30, 30, 30, 7, 5 (Ia, 1/43, 12%)
Frank: 32(size 55), 20, 19, 15, 7, 6
Ki-201: 3, 2, 1, 0, 0, 0
Ki-102: 9, 4, 2
Peggy: 7
Dinah III KAI: 9
A6M: 30, 30, 30, 30, 30, 30 (A6M5b, 4/44, 5%)
A7M3-J: 4, 4, 4, 3, 1
George: 27, 21, 15, 12, 10, 9
Norm: 21, 16
Betty: 13, 2
Jill: 23, 1, 0
Frances: 15
Myrt: 5, 4, 4
Judy: 27, 23, 0
Grace: 11, 10, 7, 5

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RE: Once Again into the Breech - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A) - 10/14/2013 6:14:41 PM

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I thought that its is only supply that suffers losses during overland movement, and fuel/oil/resources traveling overland are immune from any losses. Can anyone confrim?

Yes, unless something has changed Resources / Oil are immune to losses from overland movement - which makes the road-rail from Singapore to Hong Kong / Port Arthur possible. Since you have no control over how resources / oil moves you don't suffer losses from the AI being stupid.

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Post #: 1982

RE: Once Again into the Breech - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A) - 10/14/2013 6:20:58 PM

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I turned off a bunch of tiny xAK/xAKLs in the production schedule. It won't do much now but I'm going to start turning off merchant yards, a little at a time to keep my pool rising but slowly. Right now it increasing ~170 a turn. I'd like to increase my HI savings. Right now my HI savings are ~4800 a day. Turning off 70 merchant ship yards will bring it over 5k a day. I'll start there.

I've been allowing some AK/xAK to build down to within a couple turns (2 day turns) before I halt them. Then I have them almost instantly if needed. As others say, better to be a bit stingy on merchie ships than giving away thousands of VPs as your empire collapses and you're stuck with hundreds of worthless merchant ships sitting in ports awaiting allied bombs.

I do like the conversions into mini tanks - I believe the Std-C converts into a 3k tanker which is very useful in smaller ports as it can dock in size 1 to get the load / unload bonus associated with being docked as to not being docked.

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I started the conversion of the Chitose to a CVL today. I'll start the Chiyoda tomorrow. 300 days...... That gives me 4 trained FP daitai of 24 planes each. They are either trained in NavS or ASW. I have them training the one they aren't good at. I'm going to let them train for the rest of the year. Then, I'll set them in strategic locations along my SLOC from Singapore on ASW missions. They'll be set at 40% ASW, 40% NavS and 20% rest. I still haven't decided where to place them. In addition to those units, I have several other units from a couple of AVs I lost early on. They're also at 24 planes and will be trained in a similar fashion. This has pretty much cleaned out my FP pool, but I rarely lose FPs anyway. They will all be at full strength in planes in a couple of weeks. When it's all done, I'll have 10-12 of these units along my SLOC, along with ASW TFs. I'm hoping to keep Ted's subs sighted and harassed so he can't attack effectively. Another nice thing about having 24 plane units is that each can have 1 AS battalion to keep it flying.

Do most people convert the CS ships ? I usually have trouble getting them to even convert - they just sit there in port and do nothing for days on end. Is it worth converting them ? 300 days is a long time.

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Post #: 1983

RE: Once Again into the Breech - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A) - 10/14/2013 8:35:56 PM

Mike Solli

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Xargun, I'm doing the same thing with my xAKs. I'm letting them run down to just a few days of completion and stopping them. I stopped all the Std-D, E & F. I'm going to let the Std-A, B & C complete for a while longer because once the US sub torpedoes start detonating, I'm going to start to lose TKs. A bunch of smaller ones may work better than a relative few large ones. When they go down, they won't take so much fuel with them either. I'm not sure how many I'll finish, but I'll keep them coming out for a while yet. In the mean time, I'm using the big TKs as much as I can. I just sent out 8x 12.8k and 10x 11.6k with a total of 218k fuel. The 4 Tonans will begin loading up on oil shortly. I hope Ted doesn't find my route for awhile. Once he does, a lot of fuel can go pretty quickly. I'll probably put CVEs and CSs in the big convoys come January. They'll be escorted by ASW TFs too.

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RE: Once Again into the Breech - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A) - 10/14/2013 8:49:06 PM

Mike Solli

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6 Nov 42

Lots of wasted depth charges all over the map.

SE Fleet: More bombing of Lae and Wau (the base to the west of Lae) with his 4 & 2Es - about 115 total sorties. Not much damage, but what I have there isn't going to stop 2 full divisions that are crawling up the coast of PNG. He still has troops in Buna. If he makes a mistake and pulls them out, I'll drop paratroops in to take it for a while and cut him off. Here's hoping he does that....

Burma: The Vengeances didn't fly today. My fighters didn't either.

Ted attacked my lone division (33 Division) on the road to the east of Cox's Bazaar with 3 Indian Divisions (7, 14 & 25). Not much happened. Losses were minor on both sides with Ted taking a lot of disablements. He was only barely able to muster 1:1 odds. My division remained in the hex and still at 99% strength.

China: I destroyed the construction regiment. That army (3 divisions, 1 brigade & support) is moving to surround more Chinese in my rear.

My main army is chasing after the remnants of the Chinese army, now ~57k strong. The Chinese are headed to Kukong where there are more units. I hope to push the entire rabble to the east to the next base over. If I do, I'll just surround them and let them rot. If I kill them all, he'll get all the infantry units back at 1/3 strength. Hopefully, they'll take a long time to die.

I landed the 5 Division at Pakhoi. Ted has a corps there at ~8k strength. That division should easily push them out.

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RE: Once Again into the Breech - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A) - 10/15/2013 8:55:21 PM

Mike Solli

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7 Nov 42

Sub War: The fertile grounds off Norfolk Island paid off once again. The I-34 put a torpedo into an xAK. She didn't sink but I did locate a nice merchant convoy with TKs in it. The I-34 and two of her sisters in the area are closing in for more kills. We'll see if the ships elude us.

5 Fleet: KB1 is withdrawing to the west a couple of hexes, to be 17 hexes away from Unmak Island. If Ted has Catalina 5s there, they can reach out at extended range to 16 hexes. I suspect he has some Cats there, but they may be the older model and he may not be looking out at extended range. My carriers have not been spotted and I want to keep it that way.

KB2 is still a week out, but the replenishment fleet is standing by a couple hexes west of KB1.

Tomorrow, I'm going to see if I can upgrade a training/naval search Mavis unit at the Home Islands to Emily. Then I'll fly them off to Paramushiro Jima to fly supply to Adak as well as more naval search. Right now I have exactly 2 Emilies at Paramushiro Jima. One is flying naval search on a 10˚ arc over Adak and the other is flying in a handful of rice each day. They could use more help.

SE Fleet: Ted has a fleet sitting in Milne Bay and I don't know what it is composed of. I suspect it is AMs again, but I don't know for sure. I had every fighter unit in range fly LRCAP over Milne Bay and I gave the 45 plane Betty daitai at Shortlands Island naval attack/naval search orders for Milne Bay but nothing happened. Ted sent a P38 sweep to Shortlands but no one was home. Oh well, maybe next time.

Only 51 2 & 4E bomber sorties over Lae. He's hitting the troops now. If he only knew what really was there, he wouldn't bother.

China: The 5 Division attacked the Chinese Corps at Pakhoi and pushed them out, as expected. The odds ended up being 17:1 with part of the division still aboard the transports. Losses were 20(0) Japanese to 2391(127) Chinese and the unit fled north. The 5 Division will run them down. Pakhoi's infrastructure was 50% damaged: Manpower 1(1) and Resources 20(20). I won't repair any of it.

I did have a little excitement during this invasion. 8x British MTBs attacked! I'll bet they were the MTBs that begin the war at Hong Kong. They've been sitting at Pakhoi for almost a year! My escorts for the invasion were the 4 Akatsukis and a DMS. The Brits must have been out of practice. Two MTBs were sunk and a couple more damaged for no damage to any of my ships. Banzai! I almost feel sorry for the survivors. There are 6 MTBs in the middle of hostile seas, with only a couple of torpedoes and no fuel. It's gotta suck to be them.

Burma: Not much excitement here. The 3 Indian Divisions attacked my division just east of Cox's Bazaar again. The odds were once again 1:1 and losses were definitely in my favor. Japanese losses were 415(0) to 1509(14) Indians. They took a lot of infantry squad disablements. My division is still at 99% with 87% effective. They ain't pushing them out any time soon.

A 32k supply convoy just arrived and begin dumping supply at Rangoon. A little supply trickled out because Lashio was up to a few hundred supply now. They've had no more than 19 for a long time. Hopefully, the supply situation will ease up here so I can do nasty things.

Other Stuff

Reinforcements:
HQ 8 Area Army & HQ 18 Army: these two headquarters are heading to the Burma Theater.

My Ha-34 pool is up to 477 and increasing by 11 daily. In a few days, my Tojo research will jump from 3 to 6% a day. Banzai!

My Ha-35 pool is up to 526. With the 9 per day that the Zero and Oscar R&D consumes, it's only increasing by 3 a day, and that's with all my Ha-35 consuming planes not building. I really want to start the A6M5 and am going to need some Oscar IIas soon. I have plenty of the Ic though (50+). I'm expanding the engine factories and there are 4 so it should increase production soon. Not soon enough though.

I get another CVE in 17 days. I have a 27 plane Val training unit that I just switched to ASW training. I'll assign this unit to the CVE and use that combo to escort the big TK convoys between Singapore and the Home Islands. I'll send all 3 big TK convoys (300k capacity) together. They'll have escorts and ASW TFs assigned to protect them. We'll see how that works. Right now I have them strung out a couple of days apart. Right now I have 230k fuel headed to the Home Islands. The Tonan TF (+1 other TK) is loading oil now. That'll carry ~75k oil and it should leave in 2 days.

I get the following ships:

8 days - DD Shimikaze (accelerated) - 36 points
9 days - SS Ro-102- 24 points
20 days - CVL Ryuho - 47 points
21 days - DD Wakazuki (accelerated) - 39 points
23 days - BB Musashi - 233 points

That'll free up 379 naval shipbuilding points. That will allow me to accelerate the last 3 CVs. I'll have all 6 CVs accelerated. I should get them according to the following schedule:

2 in Jun 43
1 in Jul 43
3 in Nov 43

Right now the Taiho is not accelerated and is scheduled to arrive in Mar 44. As I free up more points, I'll eventually accelerate her, but she's pretty darned expensive. My goal is to get her in late 43. We'll see.

I currently have 5 DDs accelerated, which is all that are available to accelerate. I figure I'm going to need them when the US sub torpedoes go hot.

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RE: Once Again into the Breech - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A) - 10/16/2013 3:14:23 PM

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A 32k supply convoy just arrived and begin dumping supply at Rangoon. A little supply trickled out because Lashio was up to a few hundred supply now. They've had no more than 19 for a long time. Hopefully, the supply situation will ease up here so I can do nasty things.

Don't forget to buildup the bases inbetween to facilitate the movement of supplies / fuel between bases - especially in Burma during monsoon season. I don't remember exactly when the season is without looking, but during Monsoon supply movement really slows if the bases aren't all built up.

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Post #: 1987

RE: Once Again into the Breech - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A) - 10/16/2013 6:42:26 PM

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8 Nov 42

5 Fleet: Nothing new. KB is still waiting out of range of Allied PBYs. No sign of an invasion fleet. This is really weird. I'm hoping for an invasion.

4 Fleet: The little TF (1 CL, 7 DD) that went to ambush an AVB at Baker Island hit air. Fortunately, I gave them bombardment orders so they did a nice job on the port and airfield. I don't think there are any troops there at all.

SE Fleet: More of the same. Lots of ineffective bombing of troops at Lae. There was a rare successful night bombing raid of Pt. Moresby. A B25 was destroyed on the ground and half a dozen aircraft were damaged. (This is successful?! Sheesh.)

China: Moving into position to attack a couple of different areas.

Burma: Ted attacked me just east of Cox's Bazaar for the 3rd day in a row. I wonder where he's getting all that supply from? Anyway, the 3 Indian divisions hit the 33 Division getting 1:1 odds yet again. Losses were 625(2) Japanese to 897(5) Indians. My strength remains at 99% but my effective strength is down to 81%. Total losses for the 3 days of attacks are: 1453(6) Japanese to 2890(28) Indians. I wonder if he'll hit me again tomorrow.

Fortunately, supply is beginning to flow in Burma. Several of the bases have graduated from red "!" to yellow "!".

My planes are flying again. I wish those Vengeances would fly again. I'd love to shoot some down. Xargun, I have built up the bases as much as possible. The bases on the fringe have never gotten much supply and don't even have much in the way of forts.

Other Stuff

My Ha-35 pool continues to grow at 3 per day. I'm going to have to turn some fighters on soon. All 3 of the Ha-35 factories are expanding, but it takes a while to increase daily production.

The Ha-34 pool is up to 488 and growing by 11 per day. Two more days and the three Tojo R&D factories will double in efficiency! I expect to have the Tojo IIc in April 43.

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RE: Once Again into the Breech - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A) - 10/16/2013 9:20:09 PM

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I just got an email from Ted. He managed to get the entire 18 Brit Division into Pt. Moresby at the beginning of the game as well as a couple of CD units. No way I would have taken it with the Gds Bde and 90 Infantry Regiment. His Dutch & S subs were enough to deter me. I'm glad he didn't get the division into Burma, although he has enough strength there, but it's all bottled up right now. I suspect it's still at PM, but I really don't know for sure.

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RE: Once Again into the Breech - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A) - 10/17/2013 12:57:12 PM

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I did a little calculating. Here's when I expect to get the following models:

Ki-43-IIb - 15 Dec 42
A6M5b - 1 Mar 43
Ki-44-IIc - 14 Apr 43
Ki-43-IIIa - 29 Apr 43
A6M5c - 22 Sep 43
Ki-43-IV - 19 Dec 43
A6M8 - 19 Feb 44

It's still too early to estimate the rest.

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RE: Once Again into the Breech - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A) - 10/17/2013 3:19:22 PM

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Do you plan to keep the A6M line researching all of the way through to the A6M8?

I didn't think it was worth is and changed those to extra for the A7M2.

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RE: Once Again into the Breech - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A) - 10/17/2013 5:27:36 PM

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ORIGINAL: Mike Solli

I did a little calculating. Here's when I expect to get the following models:

Ki-43-IIb - 15 Dec 42
A6M5b - 1 Mar 43
Ki-44-IIc - 14 Apr 43
Ki-43-IIIa - 29 Apr 43
A6M5c - 22 Sep 43
Ki-43-IV - 19 Dec 43
A6M8 - 19 Feb 44

It's still too early to estimate the rest.

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RE: Once Again into the Breech - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A) - 10/17/2013 9:47:19 PM

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Do you plan to keep the A6M line researching all of the way through to the A6M8?

I didn't think it was worth is and changed those to extra for the A7M2.

You bring up a good point Obvert. I've been thinking about R&D a lot lately. Next game, I'll do things differently. I won't allocate any factories to late war planes early on. Most of those factories aren't doing much as we all know. The factories don't repair quickly until they are close to being done. For example, I have 6x30 factories for the Ki-201, which doesn't appear until 3/46. I allocated 3 factories in Dec 41 and they are repaired to 3, 2 and 1. I allocated an additional 3 a month or so ago and they are all still at 0. That's a waste of factories. I may reallocate them to something closer to fruition. When the mid-war planes come online, I'll reallocate those R&D factories to other later war planes.

To answer your question, I don't know yet. I still have time so I'll ponder it some more and decide when things get closer. Will it be worth getting the A6M8 in early 44? I don't know. I do know that few Japanese plane can stand up to Allied planes late war, but we have to give it a shot. We can only use what we have available. I wish I knew more about what stats really matter. I can't even figure out leaders for training units. Some do really well that really shouldn't and some that have what people claim are the best stats don't do anything at all. I really don't know.

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RE: Once Again into the Breech - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A) - 10/17/2013 9:48:03 PM

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ORIGINAL: Mike Solli

I did a little calculating. Here's when I expect to get the following models:

Ki-43-IIb - 15 Dec 42
A6M5b - 1 Mar 43
Ki-44-IIc - 14 Apr 43
Ki-43-IIIa - 29 Apr 43
A6M5c - 22 Sep 43
Ki-43-IV - 19 Dec 43
A6M8 - 19 Feb 44

It's still too early to estimate the rest.

Slacker!

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RE: Once Again into the Breech - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A) - 10/17/2013 9:52:45 PM

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I would really like to get the Ki-44-IIc earlier. I think it's too late to get them earlier though. As it is, they'll arrive before the IIb, which comes in May 43. I'm considering taking the 3 Ki-201 factories that haven't repaired at all and converting them to the IIb, but I don't think they'll be fully repaired in time to matter. I think I'm stuck with that date.

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RE: Once Again into the Breech - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A) - 10/17/2013 10:00:29 PM

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I am thinking of moving some of those late war factories to the George. Right now I have 6 and they are repaired to 28, 21, 15, 13, 10 & 9. What do you guys think? I could bump it up to 9 factories and let 3 become operational with 6 working my way through the later models.

I will have the 4 Oscar factories available at the end of 43 for late war models. I'll also have the 3 Tojo factories available in Apr 43. There's not much else though. the 6 Zero factories won't be available until early 44.

Not sure what to do....

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RE: Once Again into the Breech - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A) - 10/17/2013 10:32:42 PM

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9 Nov 42

Sub War: Well, we struck at Norfolk Island once again. This time the I-35 sank a nice sized xAK. That TK TF I was after is a few hexes to the east. I'm chasing it with 2 subs. Keeping fingers crossed.

The I-15, patrolling off San Diego, missed a TK. She's currently surrounded by 3 TFs. I'm hoping she gets another shot tomorrow.

Ted has figured something is up at Davao. He keeps a couple of subs stationed there, but they are too far off shore to get my TFs. If you don't recall, I pull resources, oil and fuel from Tarakan, Soerabaja, Boela and Babo to Davao and ship the resources and oil to the Home Islands. The fuel stays for fleet use (Combined Fleet is stationed there, and MKB is currently there). The TFs hug the coast and miss the subs every time. Anyway, I keep several ASW TFs there. Today, the DD Arare caught the Snapper and hit her 3 times with depth charges. She didn't show up as sunk, but I'm sure she's hurting.

5 Fleet: KB1 refueled and is still standing by. No sign of an invasion fleet.

SE Fleet: My nightly Helen raid over Pt. Moresby really hit the jackpot today. 14 Helens moderately damaged the airfield and destroyed 4 planes on the ground while damaging another 11! Amazing.

I had a really weird air-to-air battle today over Goodenough Island. I had a sentai of Oscars and a chutai of Zeros have a run in with 13 P40Ks. According to the battle, I lost 8 Zeros and 11 Oscars for 2 P40s. I actually lost half that. Bad day. But, the weird thing was that the Oscar sentai showed up (42 planes), stuck around for a lick or two, lost a plane or 2 (allegedly) and would run away (the whole sentai). Then they'd show up again, do it all over and run again. This happened at least 4 times. Really weird. I've never seen that before.

Lae took 135 sorties today, all against the poor souls who are guarding that place. Fortunately, they took only a few disabled squads.

Burma: The 3 Indian divisions did not attack today. I guess they're burned out for the time being. The 33 Division repaired 1% of their disabled squads, so are up to 82% I'm confident they'll hold.

I discovered that there are 2 small units in the dot hex just on the Burma side of the border NW of Katha. I have a regiment on the other side of the river that spotted them. The 14 Division (elite unit) has been sitting in Katha guarding the northern border. I'm sending them in to oust those guys. If I can cause easy casualties to the Brits, I'll do it. I want them to be in the hole with replacements for as long as possible.

Supply is now flowing in Burma except for the far northern bases and Tongoo. Why Tongoo? I have no clue. It has enough supply for the planes to fly, but is still red. Did the monsoon stop in November? I can never remember the monsoon months. Maybe it's just that I sent a bunch of supply there finally. At any rate, things are looking up. Ted refuses to fly in that theater.

Other Stuff

My first Judy R&D factory is fully repaired. I really want the D4Y3 model. I'm considering upgrading that factory to the Y3. When I get the Judy, I plan on converting the Val factory to the Judy. What do you guys think? Should I work my way up the models and build them as they become available or should I wait for the Y3? If go for the Y3, The Y1 will still be available in 4/43 but I'll get the Y3 earlier than the current 8/44.

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RE: Once Again into the Breech - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A) - 10/17/2013 11:25:17 PM

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To answer your question, I don't know yet. I still have time so I'll ponder it some more and decide when things get closer. Will it be worth getting the A6M8 in early 44? I don't know. I do know that few Japanese plane can stand up to Allied planes late war, but we have to give it a shot. We can only use what we have available. I wish I knew more about what stats really matter. I can't even figure out leaders for training units. Some do really well that really shouldn't and some that have what people claim are the best stats don't do anything at all. I really don't know.

I have found that you want one exp 80 (skill 80) pilot in each unit that is training. Not sure why / how but it seems to train them faster. I have no proof, but it does appear to train my units faster than those without a high quality pilot in the mix. They don't seem to have to be the leader either.

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Post #: 1998

RE: Once Again into the Breech - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A) - 10/17/2013 11:30:51 PM

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Supply is now flowing in Burma except for the far northern bases and Tongoo. Why Tongoo? I have no clue. It has enough supply for the planes to fly, but is still red. Did the monsoon stop in November? I can never remember the monsoon months. Maybe it's just that I sent a bunch of supply there finally. At any rate, things are looking up. Ted refuses to fly in that theater.

I want to say Monsoon is like march through October ? Can't find my notes.

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Post #: 1999

RE: Once Again into the Breech - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A) - 10/18/2013 7:11:11 AM

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Supply is now flowing in Burma except for the far northern bases and Tongoo. Why Tongoo? I have no clue. It has enough supply for the planes to fly, but is still red. Did the monsoon stop in November? I can never remember the monsoon months. Maybe it's just that I sent a bunch of supply there finally. At any rate, things are looking up. Ted refuses to fly in that theater.

I want to say Monsoon is like march through October ? Can't find my notes.

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The monsoon runs from May 15 to Oct 15 and is only for bases that have max draw in Burma and along the India/Burma border.

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Post #: 2000

RE: Once Again into the Breech - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A) - 10/18/2013 8:29:17 AM

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10 Nov 42

Sub War: Lots of exciting interactions. Off Norfolk, The I-34 ran into an ASW TF but snuck away. The other two subs (I-35 & I-36) to the east of Norfolk are still chasing that merchant TF. The I-36 caught it (I think) and put down a moderately sized xAK. They're still chasing.

North of Rangiroa, I have 3 other Glen subs hunting. Today, the I-26 caught and torpedoed a fuel laden xAK. She's done for as well.

Off San Diego, yesterday the I-15 was surrounded by 3 enemy TFs. Well, she found one today. It was an ASW TF composed of the tiny SCs Ted seems to have so many of.

She got away as well.

Overall, not a bad day. It was only xAKs that were sunk, but every kill helps and it's got to piss Ted off.

Maybe he'll make a mistake somewhere.

5 Fleet: KB1 is still standing by.

SE Fleet: That Helen sentai that does the night bomb raid of Pt. Moresby hit paydirt again. They destroyed 2 fighters on the ground and damaged 3 more.

Today, 171 2E & 4E sorties hit Lae's troops. I'm glad he's wasting those bombing raids on a few, written off troops.

Ted swept Gasmata with 12 P40Ks and was opposed by 12 fighters (Zeros and Nicks). I ended up losing one of each with 2 pilots WIA. I guess it could have been worse.

Burma: Well the monsoon was probably why I was having such supply issues here, although the relative shortage of supply didn't help any.

Remember the dot hex NW of Katha I talked about yesterday? It's Kalemyo. I bombed the troops there and discovered the 118 RAF BF there. There's another unit there as well. I'll keep bombing until I discover who it is. If it's another support unit, I'll send in the infantry regiment to beat them up then withdraw again.

I also bombed Akyab and Cox's Bazaar's air fields again. Keeping the bases in ruins and also destroying precious supplies there.

China: I hit that poor Chinese army just north of Kukong and beat them up some more. The 33k remnants (14 units) of a once 140k strong army was pushed into Kukong to join the garrison there. That total army is 66k with 20 units. I'm hoping to push them out to the east and push them into Kanhsien, a base in clear terrain. I'm also hoping to push the scattered Chinese units south into that town and then surround it and bomb it with a single Sally chutai. They'll eventually starve off. A screen shot is below.

Other stuff

I had the Snapper and Sailfish show up as sunk today. The Snapper was hit by 3 DCs of Davao yesterday and the Sailfish was hit by DCs a while ago off the coast of Japan. She sank near Midway.

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Post #: 2001

RE: Once Again into the Breech - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A) - 10/18/2013 8:32:24 AM

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Here's a better shot of China:

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Post #: 2002

RE: Once Again into the Breech - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A) - 10/18/2013 8:37:58 AM

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I allocated 3 factories in Dec 41 and they are repaired to 3, 2 and 1

This seems particularly unlucky, assuming all went to size 30 in December and have always had enough supply the chance of a result as bad as this should be less than 1%. In my game, by May 1942, I have factories repaired for Ki-83 of 3, 2, 3, 3 and for the Ki-94-II of 2, 3, 3, 4. I expected that to deliver the aircraft at the end of 1944 or in January 1945 provided that the engine bonus was available.

The time to fully repair a factory averages at 63% of the time until the aircraft is due. So if you use one factory to work on an a/c due in 24 months it will be advanced by about 3 months (with engine bonus) if you set it for an a/c due in 48 months it will be advanced by about 6 months. On average, researching late war aircraft is not inefficient. Although they advance slowly, they have longer to benefit from being fully repaired.

Using upgrade chains is way fastest (e.g. Ki-43 IV, and Ki-84r). Without an upgrade chain, and given the engine bonus, it seems that there is little point having more than about 4 factories working on a model.

A difficulty with advancing the Ki-201 early is getting the engine bonus by the time the first factory is repaired.

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Post #: 2003

RE: Once Again into the Breech - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A) - 10/18/2013 8:43:27 AM

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On average, researching late war aircraft is not inefficient. Although they advance slowly, they have longer to benefit from being fully repaired.

Spidery, I agree. This was my thought when I initially allocated factories to late war models early. I realize repairing would be slow, but not necessarily this slow. I haven't changed anything, but an still pondering what to do.

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RE: Once Again into the Breech - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A) - 10/18/2013 8:57:08 PM

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On average, researching late war aircraft is not inefficient. Although they advance slowly, they have longer to benefit from being fully repaired.

Spidery, I agree. This was my thought when I initially allocated factories to late war models early. I realize repairing would be slow, but not necessarily this slow. I haven't changed anything, but an still pondering what to do.

Thanks.

This is making me want to switch up my R&D as well. I'd lose some of the HI I just expended to expand them all to factory damage for switching lines, but...

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Post #: 2005

RE: Once Again into the Breech - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A) - 10/19/2013 8:35:32 AM

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I allocated 3 factories in Dec 41 and they are repaired to 3, 2 and 1

This seems particularly unlucky, assuming all went to size 30 in December and have always had enough supply the chance of a result as bad as this should be less than 1%. In my game, by May 1942, I have factories repaired for Ki-83 of 3, 2, 3, 3 and for the Ki-94-II of 2, 3, 3, 4. I expected that to deliver the aircraft at the end of 1944 or in January 1945 provided that the engine bonus was available.

The time to fully repair a factory averages at 63% of the time until the aircraft is due. So if you use one factory to work on an a/c due in 24 months it will be advanced by about 3 months (with engine bonus) if you set it for an a/c due in 48 months it will be advanced by about 6 months. On average, researching late war aircraft is not inefficient. Although they advance slowly, they have longer to benefit from being fully repaired.

Using upgrade chains is way fastest (e.g. Ki-43 IV, and Ki-84r). Without an upgrade chain, and given the engine bonus, it seems that there is little point having more than about 4 factories working on a model.

A difficulty with advancing the Ki-201 early is getting the engine bonus by the time the first factory is repaired.

My Ki-83 did in fact come in 1/45 with three (30) factories allocated in the first months of game. The Ki-94 has not even fully repaired yet though.

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Post #: 2006

RE: Once Again into the Breech - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A) - 10/19/2013 2:16:38 PM

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My first Judy R&D factory is fully repaired. I really want the D4Y3 model. I'm considering upgrading that factory to the Y3. When I get the Judy, I plan on converting the Val factory to the Judy. What do you guys think? Should I work my way up the models and build them as they become available or should I wait for the Y3? If go for the Y3, The Y1 will still be available in 4/43 but I'll get the Y3 earlier than the current 8/44.

My opinion? I want the Y3, but I also need the Y1 in quantity. The D3A1s are getting very old by January 1943 and need to be replaced sooner rather than later. So, research the Y1 with all available factories until the month before it's due. Then switch over to the Y2 and / or Y3 models.

I would absolutely switch the D3 production factory over to the Y1 when possible. Hang the modest cost in HI and supply.

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RE: Once Again into the Breech - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A) - 10/19/2013 2:35:29 PM

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Hi CB. I definitely agree with you, but I have another piece of info that I didn't realize at the time I asked the question. When the factory added it's percentage, I got 2% I checked the engine pool and discovered the Aichi Ha-60 factories had been producing for quite a while. I have a bunch of engines in the pool. Oops. I shut them off so I'll build a bunch of D4Y1s and some of the D4Y1-Cs as well. I suspect I'll never use up all the engines but I can always use them as Kamikazes. I don't have the number right now but I want to say I have some 800 engines. That was a stupid mistake. Ah well, it's too late to do anything about it now. It does free up 2 engine factories for other uses. I'll take advantage of my mistake and build a bunch of the Y1 and use the engine advantage in the R&D too.

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RE: Once Again into the Breech - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A) - 10/19/2013 2:51:54 PM

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Just looked at the Judy situation a little further. Apparently, the D4Y1 and Y2 use the Aichi Ha-60 engine. Also, the recon versions and a NF version use that engine. I have already begun building the D4Y1-C recon model, although only a relative few will be built. I guess I'll build some night fighters as well. Does anyone know if I can station Judy night fighters on carriers? Just a thought. Not that it will matter by mid-44.

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Post #: 2009

RE: Once Again into the Breech - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A) - 10/19/2013 2:56:07 PM

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Mike,

Per the editor, the D4Y1-C recon model is CV Capable. Pretty sure I read somewhere that is how they intended to use them before Midway.

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