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A Glutton for Punishment Dennishe (J) vs Khyberbill (A)... - 11/3/2013 8:53:30 PM   
khyberbill


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Status: offline 		We are playing DBB-C with stacking limits, historical first turn. Since Dennis is doing an AAR, I thought it proper to have one as well. Having read his previous AAR's I know I can not compete with him in style. I will use the AAR to discuss strategy and tactics and also to provide commentary after large events. Right now the strategy is to run like hell and the tactic is to hide.

Although this was an historical first turn, I was lucky to save the POW which is now serenely headed towards a dry dock and hopefully will avoid any lurking Japanese subs. The Repulse is also free in the Indian Ocean. Since she is a fairly speedy vessel for this time period, I may join her with an American CV to provide some extra protection. Speaking of American CV's, I have decided in this game to initially move them to Sydney where they will hopefully be able to stir up some trouble. In previous games I have also moved them to Alaska with little success. If Dennis decides to go North then there is little to be done anyway. KB was last seen south of Wake move SW.

In Oz I intend to not try to hold Darwin but draw the line at Alice Springs. In the DEI I am going to concentrate troops on Java. It wont do any good but it is a nice mental masturbation exercise. We are withdrawing troops to Singapore and trying to evacuate the 11th Indian Division. In the Philippines troops will be concentrated in Manila and Clark. Not that this will stop a concerted effort. I diverted the Singapore and Rangoon reinforcements to India and Ceylon.

DBB-C limits cargo ship size and range. I will move the larger vessels to the West Coast and the smaller ones <3200 to Capetown. Capetown will supply India and the West Coast feeds Australia. I will also send some fuel from Abadan to Oz as well as India. Past games have taught me that you never have enough fuel where you need it but having a lot in Sydney is a plus because Sydney tends to be closer to the action then other large ports.

If allowed the time, I will reinforce Pago Pago with some Marine units. I have no idea what plans for expansion Dennis has in this game-historical? Or perhaps he is greedier.

More to come as the game unfolds.

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RE: A Glutton for Punishment Dennishe (J) vs Khyberbill... - 11/3/2013 9:01:05 PM   
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India is a supply source, doesn't need anything from CT. I reccommend sending whatever you can to Perth instead. When you go back on the offensive you can start shipping to the DEI.

Oh, and use your freighters initially to ship whatever fuel you can come up with, either from CT or Abadan, to Perth. You shouldn't run out in OZ then, and OZ can produce most of its own supplies.

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RE: A Glutton for Punishment Dennishe (J) vs Khyberbill... - 11/3/2013 10:01:32 PM   
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Status: offline 		Well... In my DBB-C the supply in India is much less than in stock. To support offensive operations in Burma and beyond it probably is necessary to ship lots of supply in from Cape Town.

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RE: A Glutton for Punishment Dennishe (J) vs Khyberbill... - 11/3/2013 10:43:18 PM   
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Status: offline 		I agree. I just finished a PBEM with DBB-C. We ended up getting to 10/45 and I found that to support air shipping supplies to China and support ground efforts in Burma I needed the extra supply. In fact, I discovered this when Ledo suddenly showed up out of supply and on checking I found that India was very low in every city. In this game, I also sent a lot of the supply from Capetown to support operations in DEI and then the Philippines via Darwin.

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RE: A Glutton for Punishment Dennishe (J) vs Khyberbill... - 11/4/2013 2:37:33 AM   
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Status: offline 		I'm certainly not trying to pick a fight here, and it's not my AAR anyway. However I've played a DBB-C as the allies against an experienced player and he was surprised by how heavy my offensive was in Burma and how early it began. I never came anywhere near supply problems. witpqs is as authoritative an expert as there is (nearly), but I don't know what you guys are talking about. I never got so much as a yellow exclam anywhere in India, and they have been shortlived in Burma. However, this would not be the first time my experience has differed from others, and I mean their true experience. Don't know what to say but I've never sent supplies to India.

edit: You have to keep the fuel coming from Abadan so that India can produce the supplies, but that is easier to do and more efficient that shipping supplies from Cape Town.

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RE: A Glutton for Punishment Dennishe (J) vs Khyberbill... - 11/5/2013 12:02:37 AM   
khyberbill


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Status: offline 		Thank you for your comments. I like this kind of discussion, it helps me learn the game. I was very surprised that I ran low of supplies in India, a first for me. And India had lots of fuel from Abadan. It was in 1944 when I ran low. Not only was a lot of supply being flown into China but we were fighting a huge battle for control of Burma. My foe (Zachary) in fact probably had more troops in Rangoon than I found in Tokyo when I arrived there. After the game was over Zachary said he had put too much emphasis in holding Burma. In a previous game I had driven all the way to Bangkok and he did not want a repeat.

To support the ground war in Burma, I was shipping lots of supply from Madras and Calcutta to Ramree Island. That, I am sure, contributed to the deficit in India.



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RE: A Glutton for Punishment Dennishe (J) vs Khyberbill... - 11/5/2013 8:23:35 PM   
khyberbill


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Status: offline 		Not much new to report. Dennis has done a good job of sealing off the escape routes from the Philippines so I stand to lose most of the ships from Manila. I did sneak out several ships from the smaller ports, and the surface ships from Hong Kong have made it to safety. He appears to have a mini-KB approaching the eastern part of the DEI. I have pulled back many of the Dutch planes to Java to build a force in Bandoeng. That is mountain town and I hope to make it a speed bump by pulling in the troops from the other islands. A few games ago I tried a fortress Java plan by sending in the Singers and Rangoon relief forces and still lost the island (and troops) so now I just plan on losing the Dutch. Malaybalay, near Davao is also being turned into a mountain redoubt. I still hold the place in my game with Icedawg.

Dennis has conquered the northern part of Borneo and is working his way down Malaya to Singers.

I am bringing troops and ships to Prince Rupert with the thought of trying to hold Unmack etc. We will see if I have the time to support this effort.

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RE: A Glutton for Punishment Dennishe (J) vs Khyberbill... - 11/10/2013 7:27:43 PM   
khyberbill


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Status: offline 		Dennis is on page 3 of his AAR, I have to get going. Hong Kong still holds out but should fall soon. The DEI port of Tarakan has bloodied an invasion fleet. The Mindinao hilltop town of Malaybalay is up to a lvl 2 fort. I am trying to slip some supplies into Cagayan de Oro. I am hoping that the strength of this place will slow him down.

Dennis appears to be on track for historical expansion. He has taken Palembang and is closing in on Singapore and Rangoon. In one game I tried to hold the line at Pegu and the weak Japan shock attack crossing the river there destroyed the Burma division etc. so I am pulling back. I continue to lose ships trying to slip away from Manila. This has turned into a whack a mole. All the ships basically have made it out of DEI and Singapore. In fact, I was able to pull the 12th Indian Brigade out and it is in Jaffna.

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RE: A Glutton for Punishment Dennishe (J) vs Khyberbill... - 11/14/2013 2:56:00 PM   
khyberbill


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Status: offline 		Singapore and Manila fell on the same day. Balikpapn fell the day before. As Dennis said, a great day for the empire. He is an experienced player and knows what places to take and to take them as quickly as possible. I expected no less from him. He now has his oil production locked up.

On the other hand, Operation Dunkirk was a complete success. I managed to get all the Aussie and British infantry out of Singers before it fell as well as the entire 12 Indian Brigade and most of the rest of the Indian units in Malaya including 90% of the 11th Ind Division. The initial goal was to get the Aussie and British infantry units to safety due to their anemic replacement rate. After that was complete we just started to suck everything we could out of Singers including most of the British Base Forces. I did lose one ISF base force. Most of the evacuees ended up in Oz but will transfer the Indian units to Ceylon as quickly as possible in case Dennis turns his lonely eye to that part of the world.

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RE: A Glutton for Punishment Dennishe (J) vs Khyberbill... - 11/16/2013 8:06:41 PM   
khyberbill


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Status: offline 		Dennis has now taken Canton Island. Here is a map with the extent of the evil empire to date.




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RE: A Glutton for Punishment Dennishe (J) vs Khyberbill... - 11/17/2013 2:45:05 PM   
khyberbill


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Status: offline 		I thought this AP from Manila might slip away but instead the Don Esteban decided to take on four Japanese BB's. The affair was rather one-sided. In fact, the good ship Don Esteban sank after just one hit near the northern tip of New Guinea. But, these four BB's were not interfering with our good works in other places such as the reinforcement of the Coco Islands. Here is a screen shot of the valiant action.




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RE: A Glutton for Punishment Dennishe (J) vs Khyberbill... - 11/18/2013 8:50:16 PM   
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Status: offline 		If you are looking for a marvelous mountain redoubt in Java, look no further than Madioen. RobBrennan used that on me and it was a disaster for me. He put some decent troops, built the forts, supplied it from Christmas Island and kept an armor unit there. When I settled in for the siege, he ran the armored unit out and cut the rail line. I had to divert a lot of attention into killing that straggler and keeping the lid of that kettle covered. It tied up 800 AV and some air that was earmarked for Burma.

The best part is that it is not on a coast so it cannot get bombarded and chewed up that way.

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RE: A Glutton for Punishment Dennishe (J) vs Khyberbill... - 11/18/2013 9:28:58 PM   
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Status: offline 		Are you not worried that pulling all those troops out of Singapore rather than using them to slow him down will allow him to expand a lot quicker?

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RE: A Glutton for Punishment Dennishe (J) vs Khyberbill... - 11/18/2013 9:31:40 PM   
khyberbill


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Status: offline 		Thanks for your comment. I used to have an office in Broomfield when I was doing some clean up work and waste transportation at Rocky Flats in the late 90's. Currently the plan is to hole up in Bandoeng-already level 3 forts. I think it gives the defender the same defensive boost as does Madioen. How was your foe able to send in supply from Christmas Island? I would think that island would be hard to hold. I will consider defending it now that you brought it up. I like setting up little speed bumps here and there to keep the evil empire on its toes.

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ORIGINAL: offenseman

If you are looking for a marvelous mountain redoubt in Java, look no further than Madioen. RobBrennan used that on me and it was a disaster for me. He put some decent troops, built the forts, supplied it from Christmas Island and kept an armor unit there. When I settled in for the siege, he ran the armored unit out and cut the rail line. I had to divert a lot of attention into killing that straggler and keeping the lid of that kettle covered. It tied up 800 AV and some air that was earmarked for Burma.

The best part is that it is not on a coast so it cannot get bombarded and chewed up that way.

Subscribed and I look forward to reading this. :)



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RE: A Glutton for Punishment Dennishe (J) vs Khyberbill... - 11/18/2013 10:03:57 PM   
khyberbill


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Status: offline 		Thank your for commenting. Interestingly enough, I used to do some work for the folks over at Windscale. No, I am not at all worried about how fast he will take Singapore. I have lost Singapore on the first shock attack in a previous PBEM with it fully stocked and lvl 2 forts. One can not really slow down Japan early in this game unless extremely fortunate, and that I lack (fortune). I do hope to slow him down a little bit in Java. Dennis is moving very rapidly and understands the risks to Japan if he were to take the gas off the pedal. Slowing Dennis down in Singapore would probably only affect a plan to invade India. I doubt if that is in his mind but if it is, then he will find the Singapore troops there and in much better shape then when they were in Singapore. Finally, if you look at the experience of the troops in Malaya, it is very poor. These guys all need rest and training.

Dennis wrote one AAR as Japan and I really can not determine his intentions in this game from that AAR. Is he going for historical expansion and then dig in or is he going for a land grab and if so, which land(s)?
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ORIGINAL: Encircled

Are you not worried that pulling all those troops out of Singapore rather than using them to slow him down will allow him to expand a lot quicker?



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RE: A Glutton for Punishment Dennishe (J) vs Khyberbill... - 11/18/2013 10:09:14 PM   
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Windscale is about eighty miles away from where I live btw

I guess as a Brit I have a thing about defending Singapore!

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RE: A Glutton for Punishment Dennishe (J) vs Khyberbill... - 11/18/2013 10:53:15 PM   
khyberbill


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Status: offline 		I understand. I was raised in the Punjab and the memsahib wants me to concentrate on protecting India.
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ORIGINAL: Encircled

Fair doos

Windscale is about eighty miles away from where I live btw

I guess as a Brit I have a thing about defending Singapore!



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RE: A Glutton for Punishment Dennishe (J) vs Khyberbill... - 11/23/2013 7:55:21 PM   
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Status: offline 		The Gertrude Kellogg made it to the West Coast from Manila. At one point the tanker was 4 hexes from Tokyo and attacked by some LBA. The captain is either an idiot or carries his testicles around in a wheel barrow. This is a moral victory! Clark just withstood a deliberate attack but I do not think will last much longer. KBB was sighted in the Coral Sea but then disappeared after sinking a convoy of supplies headed to Port Moresby. Not sure what to do about PM. Some DD's are upgrading in PH. We have added the new air files from Symon and look forward to seeing if they make a difference.

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A scratch in the paint. Dennishe (J) vs Khyberbill (A)... - 1/9/2014 9:47:26 PM   
khyberbill


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Status: offline 		It has been a long time between posts. The war has settled down to a steady progression of attacks in China on land and in the air by Dennis while I have been busy with moving reinforcements as they arrive to either Australia or India. We are up to 1 May 1942. The situation is as follows:

India/Burma. I have pulled back to the border. There are occasional air battles, however, no action on the ground at this time. When stronger in this arena I will start a steady push towards Rangoon. And probably get stung pretty hard.

China. Interesting events here. I basically pulled back to the rail line that runs between Changsha and Tyun. And am holding there so far. Dennis was slow to advance on Wenchow and I now have 3 Corps there holding the city. Not sure how long this will last but I am even using the useless US fleet boats to ferry in supplies. He has had several 1:2 attacks which have reduced forts but he needs to bring more to take this city. He has pushed towards Sian but I have held in the forests there so far.

Aleutian Islands. Dennis made no move towards here and I have fortified the area up to Adak. I may move further up to Attu...my father was stationed there in the last good war.

Coco Islands. Forts are up to lvl 4. I have a small garrison on Christmas Island (IO) that draws continuous bombardments from the sea and air which I hope continues

Java. Dutch are holed up in Bandoeng and doing nicely. Dennis lives in Holland so I hope he is proud of their defense.

South Pacific. Dennis stopped at Canton Island and Noumea. When I go back to the offense, it will probably be towards Noumea as a first stop.

Horn Island. About ten turns ago I got a notification of ships heading towards Horn Island. Which makes no sense to me since I still hold Darwin and Port Moresby but sure enough, from the Northwest a large TF is spotted. A few CA/CL/DD are dispatched to handle this affair when out of the blue, KB shows up Southwest of PM. Dennis had swung KB way around the area to avoid my subs and air patrol. Kudos to him as I am losing ships. I still do not understand the strategy but it has bagged him some surface ships. My CV's are in the yards getting the April 42 upgrades or I would most likely have lost more.

Cancer. As some of you know, I had a nasty fight with esophagus cancer last year. After 6 weeks of chemo and 28 days of radiation treatment I had my esophagus removed on Valentines Day (a rather dangerous operation) and then more chemo after that. Yesterday I had my second CAT scan since the operation. Both scans show me clear of cancer. It looks like I can keep playing this great game for a few more years. It took me about a week after I got out of the hospital before I could send my first turns to Durbik and Icedawg. Those games are still in progress. Thanks guys for sticking with me.

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RE: A scratch in the paint. Dennishe (J) vs Khyberbill... - 1/13/2014 12:08:19 PM   
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Status: offline 		Dennis has completed the quick conquest of Horn Island and now has invaded Port Moresby although still in the Allied Camp. Both invasions caught me off guard with my CV's in port with their April 42 upgrades (started late) and also because the invasion bonus had expired.

Not much was really lost except for the warships previously mentioned. And of course, some egg on my face for not fortifying those outposts. On the other hand, if he is succesful in capturing Port Moresby, it will provide me with a nice target for my 4E bombers and also is difficult to hold in 43. I am trying to reinforce the port but lack much ability to do much at present.

I forgot to mention in the previous post that Malaybalay still holds out in the Philippines.

During combat replay I tend to hit the ESC key when bombing occurs in China for the reason that I am too lazy to read about the destruction of more Chinese troops. Well, I should have paid attention, Dennis has been bombing HI and LI in Chinese cities. This is the first PBEM that I have played where the Japanese bombed strategic targets in China. I have always refrained from bombing strategic targets there and in the DEI as well. I moved several squadrons of Hurricanes and P40s to China to counter this action with some success so far:

Morning Air attack on Chungking , at 76,45

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 40 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-Ic Sally x 4
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 29

Allied aircraft
H81-A3 x 7
Hurricane I Trop x 8
P-40E Warhawk x 8

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-Ic Sally: 2 destroyed
Ki-21-IIa Sally: 6 destroyed, 4 damaged

No Allied losses

Heavy Industry hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
17 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 15000 feet *
City Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb
2 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 15000 feet *
City Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb

I am afraid that when the mighty Tojo's show up, I will have to back off. I really have not had much success against them until the Spits, Corsairs and F6-F3's arrive.



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