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Ok so I thought I would post my own amused thread, everyone else is :)
I was looking at the download page, and the thread title is a quote from the page from where you download from.
I thought it kind of humorous when taken in the right context for the humour to work.
160 bucks (Canadian) after taxes and shipping (well that is what the process asked for) for my books, and oh here's a free game while you wait :)
As I see it, I'm buying some great books, the game in a unified coherent edition, and they come with a complimentary computer program so I can avoid the mess of needing to set it up on a table.
I would have liked to have gotten the maps, but, I had to get realistic, I am simply not going to actually really and truly actually set those up. I have other hobbies, and they all do a lot of arguing with each other over space, and you should have heard what my models had to say about giving up the walls :) And my trains said some very rude things about the game using the space to set it up flat :)
So in the end, even if the maps were free, I think I'd have only managed to stare at them on a shelf. Pretty much like I seem to do with my equally impossible HASL maps.
I understand there are those that have made the mistake about thinking they were buying the program for 160 bucks, but books are not free. It's a nice program. I am sure it took a lot of effort to make it. But I think all the hard work was in making sure what was in the books made sense. Because if the books make sense, then putting that into a utility is likely a lot easier than making a game that was never physical to start with.
Just my opinion on that.
You have already heard my thoughts on the AI. Good luck on it. I'm not holding my breath of course. I plan to be many hundreds of hours of fun and enjoyment down range long before the stick in the mud fans of AIs ever see their precious. I never required an AI to consider Advanced Third Reich one of the great milestones in wargaming. I never needed an AI to consider Advanced Squad Leader one of the great milestones in wargaming. The one thing they enjoy though, is both games CAN be played in smaller physical locations, particularly ASL. No such luck with WiF.
I have lamented not being able to play my board game ONLY because of the physical constraints of space. Yeah sure, finding a neighbour was a rabid fan of WiF would be really cool. But, my wargame collection is meant for ftf but it entirely playable solo. Solo is not 'cool', but it is how I grew up playing wargames.
I also grew up playing wargames by first digesting the rules all of the rules and not playing the game until I had read the rules. I'm simply not used to having a moron teach me how to play the game.
I will NOT stop saying it. And you ca just deal with it. Game AIs are no challenge at all.
I'm glad I am not stuck entertaining one in the game.
When you AI fans are given your AI later, just keep in mind, when you feel a need to complain about how the AI sucks, I won't care.
What is comical for me, after having been allowed into the beta, I actually have already seen the program. Still have it actually. But after 30 minutes looking at it, and the overwhelming sensation it created, and I felt I was out of my depth :) So I have refused to look at it since seeing as I felt I had not earned that privilege. Just minutes left in my download. Rather prompt for just past 2 gigs of data. Gone are the days of Steel Panthers downloads where 400 megs took me several hours even days in the beginning.
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