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RE: Laugh n a 1/2 - No Manstein63 - 11/3/2013 8:33:21 AM   
loki100


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Status: offline 		Yep, but doesn't the in-game VP screen make more sense in this respect?

Your end game has been superb, especially given your earlier fears of not even making 1945.

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RE: Laugh n a 1/2 - No Manstein63 - 11/3/2013 9:35:44 AM   
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From the manual in regards of victory conditions;
Major Soviet Victory - If Germany surrenders between 1/1/45 and 5/31/45. 
Minor Soviet Victory - If Germany surrenders between 6/30/45 and 9/30/45.

What happens if I surrender between 6/1/45 and 6/29/45 (or 1/6/45 and 29/6/45 which ofc makes more sense for us Europeans ).
Do I win?


Terje

You are playing the 260 scenario, so the window for a major Soviet victory has already passed (ended 30 March 45). The minor victory windows ends 30 June.

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RE: Laugh n a 1/2 - No Manstein63 - 11/3/2013 9:23:49 PM   
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Yep, but doesn't the in-game VP screen make more sense in this respect?

Your end game has been superb, especially given your earlier fears of not even making 1945.



That is because all I had to do was dig in and remain quiet



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RE: Laugh n a 1/2 - No Manstein63 - 11/3/2013 9:24:29 PM   
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You are playing the 260 scenario, so the window for a major Soviet victory has already passed (ended 30 March 45). The minor victory windows ends 30 June.


Cool. 1 month of mud now, is that too much to hope for?!


Terje

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RE: Laugh n a 1/2 - No Manstein63 - 11/4/2013 6:53:55 PM   
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Overall
Clear weather, and we try to make some attack to improve our situation, but we fail. The USSR attacks and eliminated the remaining units in the north. 5 USSR attacks gave 3 retreats and 2 surrenders, while our 3 attacks gave 1 held and 2 retreats.

Losses
USSR : 53.000 troops, 473 guns, 315 AFVs, 287 AC.
Axis : 35.000 troops, 372 guns, 45 AFVs, 13 AC.

Axis units destroyed
61st Inf.Div, 163rd Inf.Div, 660th Pioneer Battalion, 6/52nd SP Flak Company.

German units disbanded
None.

German Pools
Manpower : 156.338
Vehicles : 168.549
Armaments : 0
Hiwi : 4







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RE: Laugh n a 1/2 - No Manstein63 - 11/5/2013 1:24:05 PM   
terje439


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Overall
The USSR hammers us from all directions, but we still hold a line somehow. We also counterattack in a few places, and in the SE we withdraw behind a river to free up three divisions.
69 USSR attacks ended with 47 helds, 1 scouted and 21 retreats, while our 6 attacks gave 1 held and 5 retreats.

Losses
FUBAR. Too bad, would have liked to see the losses for this turn, I would wager that the USSR lost nigh on 200k troops this turn.

Axis units destroyed
None.

German units disbanded
8 Fortified Zones.

German Pools
Manpower : 178.915 (yet a lot of my divs are near depleted. It is not like those recruits have to travel FAR anymore )
Vehicles : 173.295
Armaments : 0
Hiwi : 589







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RE: Laugh n a 1/2 - No Manstein63 - 11/5/2013 2:02:59 PM   
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RE: Laugh n a 1/2 - No Manstein63 - 11/5/2013 2:11:41 PM   
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RE: Laugh n a 1/2 - No Manstein63 - 11/5/2013 2:13:05 PM   
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RE: Laugh n a 1/2 - No Manstein63 - 11/5/2013 2:24:54 PM   
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There is still an opening for the Anglo-Americans to get through.



Hehehe true true


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RE: Laugh n a 1/2 - No Manstein63 - 11/5/2013 2:27:36 PM   
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Status: offline 		As much as you struggle on the offensive side, your skills in rebuilding and holding lines in the late-game is pretty impressive. Rooting for you to hold out another month.

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RE: Laugh n a 1/2 - No Manstein63 - 11/5/2013 2:47:11 PM   
loki100


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Status: offline 		yep, you are managing a pretty awesome end game ... wonder if your replacements are desparate to join the units where it appears to be safer - so they march to one corner, and think 'nah, lets try over there' and so on?

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RE: Laugh n a 1/2 - No Manstein63 - 11/5/2013 3:06:31 PM   
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As much as you struggle on the offensive side, your skills in rebuilding and holding lines in the late-game is pretty impressive. Rooting for you to hold out another month.


Hehe thank you


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RE: Laugh n a 1/2 - No Manstein63 - 11/5/2013 3:07:06 PM   
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yep, you are managing a pretty awesome end game ... wonder if your replacements are desparate to join the units where it appears to be safer - so they march to one corner, and think 'nah, lets try over there' and so on?


Hahaha I doubt there is any safe place left anymore


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RE: Laugh n a 1/2 - No Manstein63 - 11/6/2013 12:31:44 PM   
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Overall
Seems the USSR wants to pocket "all" of Germany. Well, that will take them another turn atleast, and for now we keep fighting. The losses are rather heavy, with the USSR air force showing its weaknesses once more.
61 USSR attacks ended with 38 helds, 20 retreats, 2 routs and 1 surrender, while our 6 attacks all gave a retreat.

Losses
USSR : 75.000 troops, 1.592 guns, 707 AFVs, 1.899 AC.
Axis : 60.000 troops, 1.406 guns, 240 AFVs, 167 AC.

Axis units destroyed
349th Volksgrenadier Division.

German units disbanded
11 Fortified Zones, we also merged the 30th, 46th, 264th, 377th and 442nd Inf.Divs into other divisions as they were reduced to brigade size in terms of troops.

German Pools
Manpower : 215.979 (come on lads, march out of the city and you ARE in the frontline...)
Vehicles : 173.954 (Opel, Mercedes and MAN still producing at full capacity)
Armaments : 0
Hiwi : 792







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RE: Laugh n a 1/2 - No Manstein63 - 11/6/2013 12:48:16 PM   
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Status: offline 		not sure of the mechanics but would losing the west map edge put you out of supply?

Or is your opponent simply trying to reduce the space you have - hindering redeployment and converting retreats to routs and surrenders?

--- and oh for that manpower pool when you were struggling in 1943

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RE: Laugh n a 1/2 - No Manstein63 - 11/6/2013 12:57:51 PM   
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not sure of the mechanics but would losing the west map edge put you out of supply?

Or is your opponent simply trying to reduce the space you have - hindering redeployment and converting retreats to routs and surrenders?

--- and oh for that manpower pool when you were struggling in 1943


Unless memory serves me incorrectly, my last supply source is the city beneath the purple 13=87 Pz.Div stack


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RE: Laugh n a 1/2 - No Manstein63 - 11/7/2013 10:09:06 AM   
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RE: Laugh n a 1/2 - No Manstein63 - 11/8/2013 9:14:08 AM   
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Now if you only had guns to give to those men . . .



Real life Hitler did not, still he got to send them to the front

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RE: Laugh n a 1/2 - No Manstein63 - 11/8/2013 9:15:22 AM   
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Status: offline 		Turn 208 USSR phase

The game ends with a minor USSR victory this turn.
Thanks to my opponent for playing me, and thank you to all who posted and/or read this AAR.



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RE: Laugh n a 1/2 - No Manstein63 - 11/8/2013 9:49:03 AM   
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Thx

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RE: Laugh n a 1/2 - No Manstein63 - 11/8/2013 10:26:34 AM   
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Turn 208 USSR phase

The game ends with a minor USSR victory this turn.
Thanks to my opponent for playing me, and thank you to all who posted and/or read this AAR.



Terje


congrats to both of you. Great read, and congratulations for sticking it out to the bitter end. Given how depressing it musc have been to see your 1942 offensive stall, you've done well to limit the Soviets to a marginal win.

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RE: Laugh n a 1/2 - No Manstein63 - 11/8/2013 2:20:11 PM   
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Great AAR, good spirit.

Thx


Thank you.


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RE: Laugh n a 1/2 - No Manstein63 - 11/8/2013 2:21:07 PM   
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congrats to both of you. Great read, and congratulations for sticking it out to the bitter end. Given how depressing it musc have been to see your 1942 offensive stall, you've done well to limit the Soviets to a marginal win.


Thank you, well, I will always stick it out to the end when I start a game, it is all a matter of finding new achievements for yourself (hold this and that until then etc).



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RE: Laugh n a 1/2 - No Manstein63 - 11/8/2013 10:16:35 PM   
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Status: offline 		Woohoo!!! Congratulations Terje! I knew you'd pull it out. Great endgame as usual. Oh, work a bit on that '41 offense.

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RE: Laugh n a 1/2 - No Manstein63 - 11/8/2013 10:21:59 PM   
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BRAVO!

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RE: Laugh n a 1/2 - No Manstein63 - 11/9/2013 8:39:07 AM   
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Woohoo!!! Congratulations Terje! I knew you'd pull it out. Great endgame as usual. Oh, work a bit on that '41 offense.

Oloren


Thank you.
Hehe, well, we'll see, but for now I will take a break from wite after I finish the game with Bigbaba.


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RE: Laugh n a 1/2 - No Manstein63 - 11/9/2013 8:39:22 AM   
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Superb AAR, great fights, good spirit.

BRAVO!



Thank you :)


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RE: Laugh n a 1/2 - No Manstein63 - 11/9/2013 1:57:32 PM   
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RE: Laugh n a 1/2 - No Manstein63 - 11/9/2013 5:05:12 PM   
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Yep, great AAR Terje. Hope you keep playing and posting.



Thank you
I intend to complete my game with Bigbaba, after that, I will switch away from wite until I've seen a few AARs with the new patch that goes on into the endgame.


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