Mad Russian
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Just a few points (and I havn't played that many scenarios so apologies if I am ahead of myself)
Aircraft I have seen used F-15E, German F4, Soviet Fencers and Mig 23 ML
F-15E was supposedly from the 81TFW, who were actually flying A-10s until about 92, the 48thTFW reequipped with F-15E's from about 91 I think.
I am working off a TO&E/ORBAT that shows the equipment for each unit in the Orders of Battle for both NATO and the Warsaw Pact for 1989. Those have proven to be mostly correct. All that I would need to do is find an F-15 unit and get it corrected. There will be no A-10 in a scenario where the F-15 is giving CAS.
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anyway, F-15E providing CAS/BAI is very unlikely - they would have been target much further back.
Same comment about the Fencer - Deep striker.
IMO, you can forget anything you were ever told about how CAS would be applied to the battlefield. Airforces would be the #1 target of both sides. As such, the air situation would chaotic. If all you had were long range aircraft flying out of England or even the Soviet Union. You would take them.
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Mig 23 ML is a fighter - not much bomb carriage here - some versions of the 23 were dual role but mainly you would be looking at Su-7, SU-25, MiG 27 and some MiG 21s for the Soviets in the CAS/BAI arena.
I took aircraft from the list available in the game. I didn't really cherry pick what versions I took. I do know fighters make ground attacks too.
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On the NATO side CAS/ BAI would be mainly done by Belgian Mirage 5s, RAF Jaguar, Harrier, USAF A-10, ANG A-7's and Alpha Jets of the Luftwaffe - interestingly one of the roles of the German Alpha jet wings was anti helicopter (Hind/Hip) with the gun. I remember on some TAC Air exercises they would attack in large (say 16 strong formations) to try and overload the enemy AD - small, smokeless and fast - they appeared and the disappeared as if from nowhere, great fun for all!!. F-16s also were used for BAI but for CAS it was usally seen as a waste and they would be used in emergency only .
Luftwaffe Tornados carrying the MW-1 pod ( is this in the sim?) but typically they would be targeted deeper - I think by the late 80s German F4s were all used for AD except for the Recon examples. Certainly were not doing CAS in the late 80s
Again, CAS would have been turned upside down. You get what you get. This is not an air sim where I match aircraft loadouts and main aircraft types with a mission. This is, "grab what you have and get downtown!"
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On other issues.
I know our (well UK) Lynx and Gazelles saw their main threat as airburst artillery - I can't seem to simulate this (almost seems helis are invulnerable to artillery? ). Direct weapons less so as they would drop down out of LOS/LOF .
Think abstract for some of the artillery and most of the combat engineer functions. We are working on making them a bit more realistic but at the moment they are about a bubble off center.
Fixing several things artillery is on the list.
Good Hunting.
MR
< Message edited by Mad Russian -- 11/13/2013 2:07:46 AM >
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