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Cannot Start Netplay Game - 11/16/2013 12:47:14 PM

Rekm41

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Both players Version 1.0.2. Login no problem. When other player accepts game in netplay the game disappears but opens fine on the one starting the game. We tried from both ends. i.e we each started a game up. No error messages just crash to desktop.

We initially started with me at version 1.0.2 and PeekingDuck with 1.0.1 but we then realized we should be the same and that is when the issues started. However when he ended the startup phase nothing happened for me on my end.

This is a real major issue!!

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RE: Cannot Start Netplay Game - 11/16/2013 4:32:09 PM

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Is there anyone else experiencing this issue?

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RE: Cannot Start Netplay Game - 11/16/2013 5:37:53 PM

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You'd have to explain how to Netplay. I tried for an hour with a friend and failed to figure out how it worked. :(

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RE: Cannot Start Netplay Game - 11/16/2013 6:11:08 PM

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Well it didn't for my opponent and I. But basically you start the game as normal, choose internet work through the forms eg scenario, optional rules and then enter the names Both players. They need to be exact. Then when that is done it opens up the netplay screen where you are prompted to log in. The other player should be already logged in and then it will give you pop up saying your opponent is logged in and he will be asked to join the game and then the game should load. That part did not work for us however. Whoever was acting as the host (starting game) would get the game to load but the other player CTD. Happened both ways to us today. So until this is resolved I guess no multiplayer unless someone else wants to try.

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RE: Cannot Start Netplay Game - 11/16/2013 7:04:58 PM

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Me and my friend experienced the exact same problem! Very frustrating to say the least...

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RE: Cannot Start Netplay Game - 11/16/2013 7:10:39 PM

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Nice to know not alone

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RE: Cannot Start Netplay Game - 11/16/2013 7:20:19 PM

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We have the same problem. One of us (2 players) start the Barbarossa game, it does not matter whom, using no optional rules. The NetPlay Formus ask to start the game and than it only starts for one of us. For the other it just closes everything down. We spent over 2 hours tonight to get it working...

If no AI, NetPlay is the only way to play (unless you play with yourself :). So this is something Matrix Games needs to address ASAP!

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RE: Cannot Start Netplay Game - 11/17/2013 6:13:29 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: robertl123456

We have the same problem. One of us (2 players) start the Barbarossa game, it does not matter whom, using no optional rules. The NetPlay Formus ask to start the game and than it only starts for one of us. For the other it just closes everything down. We spent over 2 hours tonight to get it working...

If no AI, NetPlay is the only way to play (unless you play with yourself :). So this is something Matrix Games needs to address ASAP!

I'm working on this bug this morning (Sunday, Hawaii time). We should have a Hot patch available tomorrow morning (Monday) as Update 1.0.3.

I seem to have destroyed the ability to start NetPlay with version 1.0.2.

I didn't run any tests on starting new NetPlay games because I hadn't made any changes to that code directly; I must have sideswiped it somehow.

Sorry.

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RE: Cannot Start Netplay Game - 11/17/2013 7:24:36 PM

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We forgive you. You know the old say sh.. Happens

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RE: Cannot Start Netplay Game - 11/17/2013 7:38:22 PM

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We forgive you. You know the old say sh.. Happens

I've fixed the problem but I want to run through a series of tests to make sure everything else works.

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There are flags to send and receive Game Record Logs (GRLs) between two computers. For NetPlay games they are on, obviously. But I made some changes to turn them off when players switch to a Solitaire saved game (or new game) from within the middle of a NetPlay game. If the player then restores another NetPlay game (from within the solitaire game) I need to turn them back on.

My wife (who also has 40+ years of programming & project management experience) is helping me test NetPlay, and her advice is just disable starting or restoring ANY games from within a current game. A rather harsh decision.

I'm glad I never worked for her.

So what I am testing are all the combinations of starting and restoring 3 Solitaire/Head-to-head and NetPlay games: New N, Saved S, New N; New N, Saved S, Saved N; ...

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RE: Cannot Start Netplay Game - 11/17/2013 10:42:01 PM

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Based on years of interaction with my wife (also a very smart lady) is that adopting assumption that she is right is nearly always correct...

I don't see a real need to start or restore a different game during a netplay session. The utility of restoring a previous instance of the current game however is likely to be used.

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ORIGINAL: Shannon V. OKeets

quote:

ORIGINAL: rekm41

We forgive you. You know the old say sh.. Happens

I've fixed the problem but I want to run through a series of tests to make sure everything else works.

---

There are flags to send and receive Game Record Logs (GRLs) between two computers. For NetPlay games they are on, obviously. But I made some changes to turn them off when players switch to a Solitaire saved game (or new game) from within the middle of a NetPlay game. If the player then restores another NetPlay game (from within the solitaire game) I need to turn them back on.

My wife (who also has 40+ years of programming & project management experience) is helping me test NetPlay, and her advice is just disable starting or restoring ANY games from within a current game. A rather harsh decision. I'm glad I never worked for her.

So what I am testing are all the combinations of starting and restoring 3 Solitaire/Head-to-head and NetPlay games: New N, Saved S, New N; New N, Saved S, Saved N; ...

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RE: Cannot Start Netplay Game - 11/18/2013 12:26:19 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: JLPOWELL

Based on years of interaction with my wife (also a very smart lady) is that adopting assumption that she is right is nearly always correct...

I don't see a real need to start or restore a different game during a netplay session. The utility of restoring a previous instance of the current game however is likely to be used.

quote:

ORIGINAL: Shannon V. OKeets

quote:

ORIGINAL: rekm41

We forgive you. You know the old say sh.. Happens

I've fixed the problem but I want to run through a series of tests to make sure everything else works.

---

There are flags to send and receive Game Record Logs (GRLs) between two computers. For NetPlay games they are on, obviously. But I made some changes to turn them off when players switch to a Solitaire saved game (or new game) from within the middle of a NetPlay game. If the player then restores another NetPlay game (from within the solitaire game) I need to turn them back on.

My wife (who also has 40+ years of programming & project management experience) is helping me test NetPlay, and her advice is just disable starting or restoring ANY games from within a current game. A rather harsh decision. I'm glad I never worked for her.

So what I am testing are all the combinations of starting and restoring 3 Solitaire/Head-to-head and NetPlay games: New N, Saved S, New N; New N, Saved S, Saved N; ...

NetPlay to NetPlay is already disabled (in version 1.0.2). There are two separate Matrix servers involved starting a NetPlay game: one for the forum and one for the game-in-progress execution. The reason for the two is to make sure the workload isn't all on one server. The program opens and closes the first server to start/restore a NetPlay game and the open the second. Going back in the other direction is problematical to code. It's not that difficult to restart a saved NetPlay game; both players just need to know which saved game they are restarting. That's required information anyway.

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RE: Cannot Start Netplay Game - 11/18/2013 2:17:46 PM

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This thread explains my problem last night except for my posting of wanting to play. It posted but not the information I had put into the fields. I couldn't find how to take down a posting on the netplay forums so when it comes back up I can delete my posting. How do you delete a posting on the netplay forum?

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RE: Cannot Start Netplay Game - 11/18/2013 4:24:48 PM

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This thread explains my problem last night except for my posting of wanting to play. It posted but not the information I had put into the fields. I couldn't find how to take down a posting on the netplay forums so when it comes back up I can delete my posting. How do you delete a posting on the netplay forum?

Type "delete" in the box bottom left.

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RE: Cannot Start Netplay Game - 11/19/2013 2:06:13 AM

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AxeInl - what do you mean? Where the "reply to Seeking Opponent Post box" is?
there is no delete box.

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