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Fall Grau - 1/13/2010 3:56:03 AM   
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Status: offline 		Does anyone know where I can find the latest version of this scenario? Over the years it has always been passed from one kind soul to another by email. If someone could drop it into mine, I'd be grateful: menschenfresser [AT] rcn [DOT] com

I haven't played it in a very long time and might like to start a PBEM game once I have a quick look over the scen to refamiliarize myself with it.

Thanks...

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RE: Fall Grau - 1/13/2010 7:35:25 AM   
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RE: Fall Grau - 1/13/2010 11:58:26 AM   
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You seem doubtful when and where you got this, so I guess I should ask. The file says 1.18, but the briefing says 1.17. Can anyone confirm that this is the latest/last version?

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RE: Fall Grau - 1/13/2010 12:29:10 PM   
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RE: Fall Grau - 1/13/2010 5:52:11 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Menschenfresser

You seem doubtful when and where you got this, so I guess I should ask. The file says 1.18, but the briefing says 1.17. Can anyone confirm that this is the latest/last version?


You may ask in the TDG forum. They were working in a new, T3-compatible version of the scenario.

It's a pity that Jeremy McDonald never released it publicly.

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RE: Fall Grau - 1/13/2010 7:37:09 PM   
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Status: offline 		A forum search here at Matrix turned up several references. One, almost 4 years old, from Ben mentioning he and Jeremy were playtesting v1.22.

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RE: Fall Grau - 1/13/2010 11:39:14 PM   
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Status: offline 		I have 1.22 in my e-mail inbox (we played the scenario through in that version so it works). Just sent to Mensch. Anyone else want?

Incidentally, we were working on a map for a 25km/hex version. Got about halfway.

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RE: Fall Grau - 1/14/2010 12:28:32 AM   
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ORIGINAL: golden delicious

I have 1.22 in my e-mail inbox (we played the scenario through in that version so it works). Just sent to Mensch. Anyone else want?

Incidentally, we were working on a map for a 25km/hex version. Got about halfway.


I'd like a copy. Please send to nelmsm(at)amaonline(dot)com I've played the earlier versions and I really enjoy it.


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RE: Fall Grau - 1/14/2010 4:10:54 AM   
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Status: offline 		I haven't played this in, oh I don't know, 5 years...against Shane. That was version...dunno. 1.14? In any case it's one of the best TOAW scens ever. In my top five.

Anyone want a game? I'll take either side. If it helps, I was never very good either defending or overrunning Amerika. IIRC, I lost every time I played this.

Only taking one game at the moment. Email me.

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RE: Fall Grau - 1/14/2010 4:40:51 AM   
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I have 1.22 in my e-mail inbox (we played the scenario through in that version so it works). Just sent to Mensch. Anyone else want?

Incidentally, we were working on a map for a 25km/hex version. Got about halfway.


Please, sir. (dshacking at aim dot com)

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RE: Fall Grau - 1/14/2010 6:37:24 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Menschenfresser

I haven't played this in, oh I don't know, 5 years...against Shane. That was version...dunno. 1.14? In any case it's one of the best TOAW scens ever.


I'd say it's the single scenario which has given me the most satisfaction overall. Too bad the old TDG site is down or I could point folks to the several excellent AARs which used to be up there.

Anyway, sent to everyone who has requested it. N.B. I think there was a 1.23 but I don't know where I have a copy. Will post here if I find it. I don't think Jeremy would mind me distributing it.


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RE: Fall Grau - 1/14/2010 9:00:31 PM   
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Status: offline 		What is fall grau, and why is it so good?

Sorry for being such a noob :p

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RE: Fall Grau - 1/14/2010 9:47:16 PM   
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What is fall grau, and why is it so good?


Fall Grau is a scenario developed by Jeremy Mac Donald with help from TDG. It covers a fictional Axis invasion of North America.

It's interesting because it gives the players a wide range of options and is played out at an epic scale without being grandiose (i.e. you don't have to clear your schedule and stock up on canned goods when a turn comes in). The two sides are very different to play but both have an opportunity to attack and defend. Unlike some strategic level scenarios it is sufficiently well tested to offer an interesting game right up to the full turn limit.

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RE: Fall Grau - 1/15/2010 12:11:13 AM   
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RE: Fall Grau - 1/15/2010 5:53:33 AM   
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RE: Fall Grau - 1/16/2010 1:35:53 PM   
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Is it just ACOW?


It was designed for COW. Any COW scenario can be converted but you have to check that none of the events have broken during conversion.

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RE: Fall Grau - 1/16/2010 1:54:45 PM   
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I'd like a copy, thanks.

ddgp(dot)live(at)gmail(dot)com


Sent.

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RE: Fall Grau - 1/16/2010 3:22:54 PM   
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I'd like a copy, thanks.

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Ditto -jwnorton(at)gmail(d0t)com


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RE: Fall Grau - 1/16/2010 7:38:51 PM   
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Ditto -jwnorton(at)gmail(d0t)com


Is this going where I think it is?

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RE: Fall Grau - 1/18/2010 3:06:17 AM   
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thanks in advance

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RE: Fall Grau - 1/18/2010 7:41:03 PM   
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I would like a copy of this scenario if someone wouldn't mind sending it to me

will5869(at)hotmail(dot)com

thanks in advance


Sent.

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RE: Fall Grau - 12/18/2011 8:17:11 PM   
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RE: Fall Grau - 12/20/2011 10:32:31 AM   
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RE: Fall Grau - 12/22/2011 10:13:04 PM   
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The scenario sounds fun, can I please get a copy at paladin1128 AT yahoo.com?


You got lucky. About the first time I've been on the site in six months.

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RE: Fall Grau - 12/25/2011 6:54:23 AM   
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Status: offline 		Hey guys I was wondering if I could get a copy as well. EMW1824(at)gmail(dot)com

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RE: Fall Grau - 12/27/2011 10:07:24 PM   
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Hey guys I was wondering if I could get a copy as well. EMW1824(at)gmail(dot)com


Done.

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RE: Fall Grau - 11/24/2013 3:43:53 AM   
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Status: offline 		Is it possible for anyone on here to send me a copy of "Fall Grau" - know it's unpublished, but the AARs have really piqued my interest....danbridges99@comcast.net and thanks!

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RE: Fall Grau - 11/24/2013 4:11:09 AM   
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Thanks, Dan Bridges

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RE: Fall Grau - 11/24/2013 6:36:45 AM   
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I would love a copy! The AARs I've read have really piqued my interest!



Dan,

Sent.

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RE: Fall Grau - 11/24/2013 3:45:57 PM   
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