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RE: Fall Grau - 11/24/2013 5:07:19 PM

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Hello GD, could you please mail me a copy as well to kcschmit AT pt.lu ?
Many thanks!!!

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RE: Fall Grau - 11/24/2013 6:20:49 PM

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Guys,

Available from here - limited time only. Click link, click file, click download.

It is an ACOW 300 scenario. So load into editor and save to convert it to TOAW III. PBEM only and you will need to check for any conversion errors in addition to rebalancing issues.

Fall Grau v1.22

Best wishes,
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RE: Fall Grau - 11/24/2013 7:00:10 PM

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Hello shunwick, thanks for the link!

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RE: Fall Grau - 11/24/2013 8:56:47 PM

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Thank you

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RE: Fall Grau - 11/24/2013 9:41:46 PM

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You might want to check with these guys for the latest :

http://www.savemstateathletics.com/tdg/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=111&sid=183cfa78cbeb51e8b31171d6da353b1b

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RE: Fall Grau - 11/24/2013 10:28:29 PM

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There's two scenarios;

The original, of which I think 1.22 is the latest. For this, you really need to go to Jeremy Mac Donald, who is around again now.

Then there's my 25km/hex version. This is still needs a lot of development and so rather than distribute the scenario I would want anyone interested to be co-opted into playtesting.

Note that neither scenario will be playable against the PO.

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RE: Fall Grau - 11/25/2013 5:57:12 AM

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Ben,

I am curious. Why did Jeremy never make Fall Grau publicly available? It was always a fascinating scenario and has always been a popular request.

Best wishes,
Steve

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RE: Fall Grau - 11/25/2013 11:07:01 AM

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Ben,

I am curious. Why did Jeremy never make Fall Grau publicly available? It was always a fascinating scenario and has always been a popular request.

Best wishes,
Steve

Way back when we started TDG around 2002, the intention was to create a body of high quality finished scenarios by thorough playtesting between a group of designers who knew each other well enough to give effective criticism of each other's work.

Designers could work on other stuff in their own time- but they only had one scenario up as their "submission". Until the group agreed that it was a standard to be published on the site, they could only get help playtesting that one scenario. Normally as a designer, the longer one works on a scenario the less interesting it is to do so, and we tend to wander off and do something else before we're really finished. Most of the scenarios out there are the product of someone throwing the contents together and maybe running a couple of PO playtests. We wanted to produce something really rigorous that would over time develop into a library of high quality scenarios.

Gradually our members drifted away due to family commitments, until finally after about six years the cost of maintaining the domain and the webhosting became excessive and the site was shut down. At that time Fall Grau was shaping up to be published fairly shortly.

Now, TDG as a place to publish scenarios is defunct. A couple of us are still designing for TOAW in a less structured way, with some playtesting help from the others, however the old philosophy doesn't really apply any more. I have distributed the scenario privately during Jeremy's several year hiatus from the TOAW community, but it's up to Jeremy whether he publishes his work.

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RE: Fall Grau - 11/25/2013 11:09:53 AM

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Well that was an interesting trip down memory lane. Anyone know any ghost stories or shall we sing kum-by-yah?

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RE: Fall Grau...OOPS! - 11/25/2013 12:41:11 PM

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I'd like a copy too. Sorry, I e-mailed Larry

, before finishing the thread (the part where everyone else said, "Me too!") I regard Larry as one of the omniscient ones (we're not worthy, we're not worthy...

[Wayne's World, SNL]).

, so I hit him up directly!

. Sorry big guy, I got carried away...kinda like with Oberst Klink's Kharkov '43....the damn thing is addictive!

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RE: Fall Grau...OOPS! - 11/26/2013 12:35:41 PM

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PO BOX: Spudsie74@hotmail.com. Sorry.

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RE: Fall Grau...OOPS! - 11/26/2013 6:39:55 PM

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ORIGINAL: PRUSSIAN TOM

PO BOX: Spudsie74@hotmail.com. Sorry.

Seriously. Ask Jeremy. You can find him at TDG (http://www.savemstateathletics.com/tdg/).

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RE: Fall Grau...OOPS! - 11/26/2013 10:24:06 PM

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Gotcha...TY. I got carried away by all the good news. Another "classic" seemed to be too good to wait to read the manual! "Real men don't read instructions, they just cock things up!"

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RE: Fall Grau...OOPS! - 10/21/2016 10:10:13 PM

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Does anyone have this? I've been informed that the "new" TDG website is no longer verifying accounts, so it's impossible to register and get an activated account nowadays...

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RE: Fall Grau...OOPS! - 10/26/2016 10:09:58 PM

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I have both the 25 and 50 km/hex versions of this scenario now thanks to a member here. You can now disregard my request.

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