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What % of US/CW goes against Germany/Italy - 11/27/2013 6:15:35 PM

Greyshaft

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I'm looking to start a solitaire Global War campaign but fighting only on the Europe map.
Here are my house rules:

* Japan and China will pass every turn
* CW will move 1/3 of fleet to Singapore which is available to patrol Indian Ocean areas if required
* 33% of all CW reinforcements (air/land/sea) are moved to India/Singapore
* US will move 2/3 of fleet to San Francisco.
* 50% of all US reinforcements (air/land/sea) are placed and stay on the US West Coast.
* 20% of all Russian reinforcements (air/land/sea) are moved to Vladivostok
* From J/F 1941 I will do the most "offensive" action I can with Germany/Italy to persuade US to enter the war - only one per turn.

I welcome feedback on my selected percentages or any other suggestions.

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RE: What % of US/CW goes against Germany/Italy - 11/27/2013 6:34:20 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Greyshaft

I'm looking to start a solitaire Global War campaign but fighting only on the Europe map.
Here are my house rules:

* Japan and China will pass every turn
* CW will move 1/3 of fleet to Singapore which is available to patrol Indian Ocean areas if required
* 33% of all CW reinforcements (air/land/sea) are moved to India/Singapore
* US will move 2/3 of fleet to San Francisco.
* 50% of all US reinforcements (air/land/sea) are placed and stay on the US West Coast.
* 20% of all Russian reinforcements (air/land/sea) are moved to Vladivostok
* From J/F 1941 I will do the most "offensive" action I can with Germany/Italy to persuade US to enter the war - only one per turn.

I welcome feedback on my selected percentages or any other suggestions.

warspite1

Hi Greyshaft. What are you trying to achieve? Is it a roughly historical deployment in the east in order to concentrate on the European theatre?

If so, the 1/3 Royal Navy to the Far East is tooooo much, although the strength of any deployment will change over time. Until 1944, place no modern battleships (KGV-class) in Asia (exception Prince of Wales (and Repulse) go in November 1941). At that time, you want a few cruisers - Mauritius, Exeter, Some D and E-class too.

Allow no more than one Illustrious-class to go east at any one time until 1944.

Ditto the 33% of other units.

You want one New Zealand and one Australian Corps in Europe. All Canadians in Europe. For ease of playing, all Indians bar one should remain in Asia. The South Africans stay in Europe. No more than 3? UK Corps to go to Asia.

Aircraft I am less sure about, but most Hurricanes should head East. No four-engine bombers though.

I can give you a more detailed CW naval OOB if you want, but it would take a little time to pull together? Just let me know.

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RE: What % of US/CW goes against Germany/Italy - 11/27/2013 6:48:45 PM

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You should probably look at the Fascist tide scenario for some guidelines as to how to do a Europe Only sort of game.

I can copy/paste the rules for you, if you want.

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RE: What % of US/CW goes against Germany/Italy - 11/27/2013 7:09:12 PM

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ORIGINAL: Ur_Vile_WEdge

You should probably look at the Fascist tide scenario for some guidelines as to how to do a Europe Only sort of game.

I can copy/paste the rules for you, if you want.

warspite1

Does this give you just starting forces though and not transfers over time?

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RE: What % of US/CW goes against Germany/Italy - 11/27/2013 7:31:06 PM

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Well, I mean, it starts in 1939, but I know it does have rules on force pool and production division. I never played it myself, and just breezed through the rules, but I remember finding a few things I thought seemed off. For example, the U.S. has half their production (they should probably get more), but at the same time, they're free to build all their Marines and Paras within the production limits they do have. (which is stupid).

However, I did think the idea with the British fleet was pretty neat; the CW gets all of their naval assets, but once ND 41 rolls around, the German player can, once a turn call a Japanese attack on the "transfer pool" which is just a broad representation of CW assets in the pacific. The fewer ships (and they have a formula for calculating how much power you put in it) the more the Japanese can mess you up, which can cost you BP or even VP if you put like nothing in there. So it gives you the option as to how much you want to defend your possessions in that part of the world, which seemed pretty cool.

The other thing that I remember it doesn't reflect well, and it probably should, is that there's a huge drain on action limits late game, especially in the U.S. If I've only got to deal with the European map, the U.S. is free to take a lot more airs and lands than they would if they had the Pacific stuff to deal with.

So it's really a guideline, not a hard and fast copyover I'd suggest.

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RE: What % of US/CW goes against Germany/Italy - 11/27/2013 7:44:16 PM

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Thanks for the feedback guys.
I have the rules and the historical setups/transfers if I wished to use them but I'm looking for something that's simple and is not tied to history. This scenario theorises that the stated CW/US deployments and reinforcements were enough to persuade Japan to stay at peace for the duration so the Allied player can just concentrate on the European theatre. I see no limitations on choice of capital ship deployed in the east so 1 BB = 1 CV and the CW/US can choose what to move there. Likewise the choice of aircraft sent east is up to the player. Since the most effective fighters and modern battleships will be kept for Home Defence it seemed reasonable to aim for a higher % of production points moved east. Quality at Home and Quantity abroad.

Just playing in the sandbox ...

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RE: What % of US/CW goes against Germany/Italy - 11/30/2013 6:06:51 AM

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One thing I would recommend you check out as well would be the impact on US entry actions. I seem to recall that global entry options for the US (such as US gear up prior to war) is based on the lower of the Ger/It and Jpn chit totals, so prior to the Ger declaration of war on the US, the US would never be able to gear up. There would likely be other entry options that would be impacted as well. You should think about some house rules around this if my thoughts are correct.

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