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Ardennes 1944 revisited - 12/16/2013 1:49:20 PM   
r6kunz


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Status: offline 		In remembrance of the 16 Dec German Ardennes Offensive, here is the latest version of Ardennes 1944.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/6320336/Ardennes%201944.zip

Designed using TOAW 3.4 and Opart 3XBb. Changes in v3.8 include: entrenchment rate to 33%, Attrition Divider to 28; MRPB=4. and a number of minor map, TOE and OB changes aimed at giving the Germans, with careful planning and a little luck, the ability to reach their historic objectives.

An interesting design issue is how to handicap the Allied side. Using TOAW parameters that allow the Germans to just reach their historic objectives near the Meuse by 24 Dec, the PO Allied January Counteroffensive is able push to the Germans back over their start line by 15 Jan. Historically, however, the 15 Jan forward edge of battle only ran through HOUFFALIZE and Patton was not able to bag the German army. I have tinkered with Allied supply, shock, replacement, bias to handicap the Allies in January with varying degrees of success. Results of playtest by others, and suggestions would be appreciated.

Dupuy, in his book Hitler's Last Gamble, one of my primary sources, used the Ardennes as data for a computerized model of combat performance.


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RE: Ardennes 1944 revisited - 12/16/2013 3:31:34 PM   
fulcrum90

 

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Status: offline 		Oppss...one of my favourite scenarios!! Good present for Xmas!
I need to play this version. Thanks for the update Kunz
Saludos

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RE: Ardennes 1944 revisited - 12/16/2013 3:38:57 PM   
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I got plenty of time to test it out, perhaps I find even a PBEM mate (fulcrum90 perhaps) and give you some feedback. I am still snowed in up the mountains of WV. atm and had my taste of snow for the next months to come :)

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RE: Ardennes 1944 revisited - 12/16/2013 4:06:28 PM   
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Status: offline 		I canīt resist your offer, Oberst_Klink...letīs play this.. Mirror game??

< Message edited by fulcrum90 -- 12/16/2013 5:07:02 PM >

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RE: Ardennes 1944 revisited - 12/16/2013 4:26:33 PM   
Oberst_Klink

 

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ORIGINAL: fulcrum90

I canīt resist your offer, Oberst_Klink...letīs play this.. Mirror game??

Companiero!

Let's just do a test, aye? Which side; I am still finalizing Kharkov '43 as we speak and have a few other articles to write about some war-games and Co-Sim. I am sure you read my TOAW III piece at Punta de Lanza, si?

Klink, Oberst
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RE: Ardennes 1944 revisited - 12/16/2013 4:37:44 PM   
fulcrum90

 

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ORIGINAL: Oberst_Klink


quote:

ORIGINAL: fulcrum90

I canīt resist your offer, Oberst_Klink...letīs play this.. Mirror game??

Companiero!

Let's just do a test, aye? Which side; I am still finalizing Kharkov '43 as we speak and have a few other articles to write about some war-games and Co-Sim. I am sure you read my TOAW III piece at Punta de Lanza, si?

Klink, Oberst
oberst.w.klink(at)gmail.com


Well....letīs do a test.. I would like check the german offensive...If you agree I can send the first turn soon...Iīm testing with PO and looks good...
Did you writte something at Punta de Lanza??..I donīt visit it too much but I must to read it..
I hope see Kharkov '43 released soon.Another present for XMAS??

Saludos

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RE: Ardennes 1944 revisited - 12/16/2013 5:17:25 PM   
Oberst_Klink

 

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ORIGINAL: fulcrum90


quote:

ORIGINAL: Oberst_Klink


quote:

ORIGINAL: fulcrum90

I canīt resist your offer, Oberst_Klink...letīs play this.. Mirror game??

Companiero!

Let's just do a test, aye? Which side; I am still finalizing Kharkov '43 as we speak and have a few other articles to write about some war-games and Co-Sim. I am sure you read my TOAW III piece at Punta de Lanza, si?

Klink, Oberst
oberst.w.klink(at)gmail.com


Well....letīs do a test.. I would like check the german offensive...If you agree I can send the first turn soon...Iīm testing with PO and looks good...
Did you writte something at Punta de Lanza??..I donīt visit it too much but I must to read it..
I hope see Kharkov '43 released soon.Another present for XMAS??

Saludos

OK, I am taking care of the Allies, companiero! Send me the 1st turn, si?

And no, the article at PDL was translated by our companiero Capitan Piluso ->

www.puntadelanza.net/Foro/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=37&t=15569

Klink, Oberst

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RE: Ardennes 1944 revisited - 12/16/2013 6:13:16 PM   
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RE: Ardennes 1944 revisited - 12/16/2013 6:33:50 PM   
InuharikoMu


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Status: offline 		Hello and thanks for the Update,

Unfortunately Version 3.4.0.202 does not Find (or see) the Scenario in the Dir.

What did i Wrong i copied the 3 Files into the WW2 West Scenario and a New created Dir but TOAW3 did not see the Scenario.

Please Help and Advise

Best Regards from sunny Germany

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RE: Ardennes 1944 revisited - 12/16/2013 7:59:46 PM   
fulcrum90

 

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ORIGINAL: Richtschnur

Hello and thanks for the Update,

Unfortunately Version 3.4.0.202 does not Find (or see) the Scenario in the Dir.

What did i Wrong i copied the 3 Files into the WW2 West Scenario and a New created Dir but TOAW3 did not see the Scenario.

Please Help and Advise

Best Regards from sunny Germany

yes, itīs true...you need to use Opart 3XBb to play this version...

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RE: Ardennes 1944 revisited - 12/17/2013 9:12:44 AM   
InuharikoMu


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I Googled Opart 3XBb and have found my mistake.

Thanks for the push in the right Direction.

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RE: Ardennes 1944 revisited - 12/22/2013 9:46:10 AM   
fulcrum90

 

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Status: offline 		HPT KUNZ, great scenario...With 8 turns played I can say itīs very funny. Games is been very fluid and challenging. Good idea to put 33% of entrenchment rate. Perhaps you could apply this rate to your Road to Moscow serie. Btw, germans have seized Bastogne. Wainting for Oberst_Klinkīs reply

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RE: Ardennes 1944 revisited - 12/22/2013 12:19:09 PM   
Oberst_Klink

 

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Status: offline 		Nein! I haven't played the turn yet! What a spoiler, companiero! Anyway, first things first, work, wargaming articles, food and while writing listening to the 2.BL and 1.BL.

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