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RE: Sicily to Brenner Pass Revised - 12/30/2013 5:24:00 AM   
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Status: offline 		Hey I just noticed that our victory points is a positive number now. I wonder what caused that. Objectives taken or something?

EDIT: Never mind. I discovered that I was looking at the Axis side. I only just now remembered that I had halted the AI of the Axis
side so I could check something. Losses or supply or something. And had forgotten that I had done that and it wasn't immediately
obvious that I was looking at the Axis side. Case solved. Move along nothing to see here.




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RE: Sicily to Brenner Pass Revised - 12/30/2013 5:29:13 AM   
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Status: offline 		Here's the Axis supply situation. I've cut off the supply to the southernmost German group I see.




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RE: Sicily to Brenner Pass Revised - 12/30/2013 5:32:04 AM   
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Status: offline 		The Germans have a squadron of HE-111's somewhere. I'll have to keep that in mind. This is gamey I know but I've only done it this
once and only because I was relatively sure I had extinquished the Axis air force. This was just to make sure.




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RE: Sicily to Brenner Pass Revised - 12/30/2013 5:37:52 AM   
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Status: offline 		So I let the Axis do their turn and then they got another turn immediately after that and so they did two turns in a row and then it's T54
and something new has popped up. Rearguards.....lots of them. All black and white and menacing looking. I guess that's what I get
for not trying to push my way through it before now. Now it'll be harder because of the rearguard dudes.




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RE: Sicily to Brenner Pass Revised - 12/30/2013 5:50:08 AM   
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Status: offline 		Here's a report about the plane losses. I'm almost out of Boston's; I'll have to park them soon. I've lost a lot of P-40's but I really did
depend on them for a lot of ground support here lately and they did their share of the damage and suffered some remarkable losses.
I've got Hurricanes in the pool but there aren't any Hurricane squadrons. I guess they were all withdrawn or something.




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RE: Sicily to Brenner Pass Revised - 12/30/2013 5:52:26 AM   
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Status: offline 		Hey Steve: I see from the header of the page that you're viewing this forum......may I ask you how far you wanted me to go
and did you want a restart anytime soon?

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RE: Sicily to Brenner Pass Revised - 12/30/2013 7:06:34 AM   
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Status: offline 		As far as you would like, nice to see you run the map if you want to. I'd like at least to see you get to the Gothic Line and see if the PO is able to stop you there. It seems the Gustav Line wasn't much more than a speedbump.

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RE: Sicily to Brenner Pass Revised - 12/30/2013 9:02:20 AM   
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Status: offline 		Allrighty then. The scenario calls for lots of turns but they go fast and it's fun so let's do it.

And about the Gustav line: It had holes in it that I could infiltrate through. Plus the landing
at Anzio unhinged the southern part of it.

Quick question: Is it gamey to use the "alternate" invasion technique ( run your unit up to
the place you want to ingress and stop adjacent to it. NEXT turn you unembark from the
sea movement and just walk ashore. At any terrain except impassable types).

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RE: Sicily to Brenner Pass Revised - 12/30/2013 9:31:29 AM   
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Is it gamey to use the "alternate" invasion technique ( run your unit up to
the place you want to ingress and stop adjacent to it. NEXT turn you unembark from the
sea movement and just walk ashore. At any terrain except impassable types).


Well, its a weird issue. Elmer certainly has enough trouble dealing with the stuff that we know is probably going to happen. Throw that technique at him and I would bet he has more trouble. I guess I would say that if I were playtesting for effect, I wouldn't do it. If I were playing for the sake of fun, I might do it just for giggles.

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RE: Sicily to Brenner Pass Revised - 12/30/2013 9:34:13 AM   
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Status: offline 		I thought I'd capture Rome while the way was open. I may not be able to hold onto it for long depending on the German reaction to my
insult.




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RE: Sicily to Brenner Pass Revised - 12/30/2013 10:09:00 AM   
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Status: offline 		T54's front lines. I'm disabusing the map of German units. Shoving them back. destroying them piecemeal. It's not a push over but a
slow steady push.




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RE: Sicily to Brenner Pass Revised - 12/30/2013 11:17:43 AM   
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Status: offline 		I don't know what this theater option does but it sounds good. I selected it.




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RE: Sicily to Brenner Pass Revised - 12/30/2013 12:21:27 PM   
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Status: offline 		And now for a word about the planes......The Hurricanes are piling up in the pool because there's no squadron for them to be a part of
and there's 15 losses of them, probably because there was a squadron but it got shot down, all of it. And the Mustangs are starting to
pile up in the pool so when they finally become active there will be adequate numbers on hand to staff some squadrons. All in all the
losses are less than the German's proportionatly speaking. I'm guessing. I sure miss being able to use the B-17's and B-24's on the
German positions but I guess they were all stationed in England and were on a different mission and weren't available. Right?




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RE: Sicily to Brenner Pass Revised - 12/30/2013 12:44:51 PM   
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Status: offline 		Here's T56's front lines. I'm pushing north from Rome. The Gustav line is almost gone now. In the mopping up stages.




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RE: Sicily to Brenner Pass Revised - 12/30/2013 12:55:13 PM   
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Status: offline 		Here's a close up of a section of the Gustav line and how I'm wrapping around the ends of the Axis lines and cutting them off from
supply and destroying them a day at a time. The southern section is in a similar condition. It's almost gone now.




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RE: Sicily to Brenner Pass Revised - 12/30/2013 1:00:06 PM   
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Status: offline 		I would drive this paratroop brigade into the airfield and fly them next turn except for the fact that I have no air points to fly them. Hint,
hint.




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RE: Sicily to Brenner Pass Revised - 12/30/2013 1:17:33 PM   
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Status: offline 		It's too bad that there's no supply source(s) for the partisans. They reconstitute at the same supply level that they died as and as a
result the supply level in the units goes lower and lower and pretty soon they are running around w/ 1% supply and so on.




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RE: Sicily to Brenner Pass Revised - 12/30/2013 1:20:56 PM   
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Status: offline 		Here's what Rome looks like now: Hey I'm wondering if I'm on schedule historically........anybody know?




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RE: Sicily to Brenner Pass Revised - 12/30/2013 1:27:07 PM   
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Status: offline 		I'm building a railroad from Taranto and I'm only just now getting close to Foggia. The supply level is slowly climbing in Foggia and I'm
going to base a lot of planes there.




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RE: Sicily to Brenner Pass Revised - 12/30/2013 1:32:13 PM   
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Status: offline 		This shot give one a better idea of the length of the railroad from Taranto to Foggia. I'm surprised that it's gotten so long so quick. I
thought that the RR engineers were relatively slow but I guess I was wrong. My bad.




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RE: Sicily to Brenner Pass Revised - 12/30/2013 1:38:38 PM   
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Status: offline 		I'm still building rail on Sicily and I'm thinking I could probably use their services better in the Rome area.




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RE: Sicily to Brenner Pass Revised - 12/30/2013 2:01:06 PM   
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Here's what Rome looks like now: Hey I'm wondering if I'm on schedule historically........anybody know?



In the meantime you're way ahead of schedule. Historically Rome fell on June 5th 1944.

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RE: Sicily to Brenner Pass Revised - 12/30/2013 2:19:44 PM   
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Status: offline 		So Steve probably thinks he needs to do some tweaking of the scenario now so that the Allies are held up at the Gustav Line
for a little bit longer. I only got the best of them because they left holes in the front lines.

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RE: Sicily to Brenner Pass Revised - 12/30/2013 3:19:19 PM   
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Status: offline 		Here's the NE section of the front lines in T58:




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RE: Sicily to Brenner Pass Revised - 12/30/2013 4:07:58 PM   
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I would drive this paratroop brigade into the airfield and fly them next turn except for the fact that I have no air points to fly them.


I think all available transport has been transferred to England in preparation for Overlord.

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I'm still building rail on Sicily and I'm thinking I could probably use their services better in the Rome area.


Gela to Messina is the only line worth rebuilding on Sicily, because if I remember correctly some Allied reinforcements arrive along that line, and then you can rail them to Messina to get on ships to go to the mainland.

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So Steve probably thinks he needs to do some tweaking of the scenario now so that the Allies are held up at the Gustav Line for a little bit longer.


I may have to steal some of Bob's Tobruk minefields and put them to use in Italy.

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RE: Sicily to Brenner Pass Revised - 12/30/2013 6:54:52 PM   
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Status: offline 		Here's the T58 front lines. I'm still pushing north and mopping up the G line and pushing the rail lines north from Anzio. I sailed in some
more RR engineers to boost the speed of repair.




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RE: Sicily to Brenner Pass Revised - 12/30/2013 7:33:06 PM   
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Status: offline 		I'm running into the low supply areas again. So I guess I'd best start looking for the next supply source. And work my way over there.




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RE: Sicily to Brenner Pass Revised - 12/30/2013 7:42:08 PM   
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Status: offline 		So um......hey Steve: I don't see any supply points north of Rome. You mean I gotta build railroads from there headed north to fight the
war? It's going to be a long war.




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RE: Sicily to Brenner Pass Revised - 12/30/2013 7:55:25 PM   
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Status: offline 		What is that program you use to display the supply / inventory stuff?

Just getting back into TOAWIII after quite a few years off.

Also, which map/counter mods you using?

I just reinstalled and pated up to 3.4, and am using the default stuff.

Do you use JSGME to swap out the mods stuff?

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RE: Sicily to Brenner Pass Revised - 12/30/2013 8:28:10 PM   
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What is that program you use to display the supply / inventory stuff?

It's just a cut and paste of a screenshot from the TOAW display(s). I'm using MSPaint for my graphics program and can crop and
edit the picture and then use it in the AAR. It's tedious but fun.

EDIT: I just re-read what you asked me and realized that it's ambiguous and COULD mean what do I use from the previous
picture and the answer to THAT is the TOAW Scenario Viewer program. And I got it from somebody or other I don't remember
but I'm pretty sure I can send you a copy of it if you'd like. There's also a TOAW Equipment Editor as well if you're buiding
scenario's and need something like that. Or you want to look through somebody else's EQP file.

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ORIGINAL: dlazov66
Just getting back into TOAWIII after quite a few years off.

Well then, welcome back and good hunting. A good PBEM player who will answer your questions would be a good thing to do to
come up to speed quickly. Either that or post your question *here* if you'd like and one of my readers or I will be glad to try to give
an answer.

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Also, which map/counter mods you using?

I just reinstalled and pated up to 3.4, and am using the default stuff.

Um........I'd be guessing if I said anything but my mind seems to fetch the JMOD phrase from my recent past.

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Do you use JSGME to swap out the mods stuff?

No I just copied the files to the appropriate directory and voila` it worked. I had to restart TOAW to see the change but that's trivial.

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