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RE: Are these real? - 1/9/2014 11:57:49 PM   
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That picture of the Akagi also looks like it's in a field of flowers.

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Haha true She can really ruin your picnic.


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RE: Are these real? - 1/10/2014 11:14:40 AM   
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Status: offline 		I'll certainly go along with the idea that these are fakes. Consider how the surviving crewmen from KB's carriers were treated when KB returned to Japan...no shore leave, kept isolated from practically everyone, transferred to the Aleutians (literally or figuratively). The idea that somehow a photographic record of the IJN's greatest disaster was hidden away is pretty preposterous given the culture of that time in Japan. (The Navy outright lied to the Army about the results of Midway.)

Another point: KB didn't operate ships in close proximity while under attack. The only possible ship from which such ships could have been photographed at that apparent range would have been the plane guard destroyer. Looking for 'shutter-bugs' on those ships would have been the least effort the IJN could have made for the cover-up.

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RE: Are these real? - 1/10/2014 11:55:37 AM   
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RE: Are these real? - 1/10/2014 8:49:37 PM   
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RE: Are these real? - 1/10/2014 9:08:59 PM   
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I will never trust a photograph again.....

warspite1

Seeing is believing. Has anyone come across this photo of a highly decorated war hero?





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RE: Are these real? - 1/10/2014 9:21:33 PM   
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RE: Are these real? - 1/10/2014 9:32:44 PM   
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Aint that the amazing guy who fought Germany at the battle of Britain, the Japanese at Pearl Harbor and then joined the Doolittle raid ?
warspite1

Yes, Ma'am the very same. He was also responsible for correctly recording, for posterity, the true starting date of World War II.


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RE: Are these real? - 1/10/2014 9:44:06 PM   
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I will never trust a photograph again.....

warspite1

Seeing is believing. Has anyone come across this photo of a highly decorated war hero?





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RE: Are these real? - 1/10/2014 9:50:16 PM   
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Aint that the amazing guy who fought Germany at the battle of Britain, the Japanese at Pearl Harbor and then joined the Doolittle raid ?
warspite1

Yes, Ma'am the very same. He was also responsible for correctly recording, for posterity, the true starting date of World War II.





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RE: Are these real? - 1/10/2014 10:31:43 PM   
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Status: offline 		witpqs this should help you feel better and can be quite informational.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hyiq9suWWQ

After all, we are talking are these real?

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RE: Are these real? - 1/11/2014 10:17:20 AM   
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witpqs this should help you feel better and can be quite informational.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hyiq9suWWQ

After all, we are talking are these real?


The voice in that was fake. That was actually Siri pretending to be a man.

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RE: Are these real? - 1/11/2014 12:24:49 PM   
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Seeing is believing. Has anyone come across this photo of a highly decorated war hero?



Curious...

Those look like pre-war American BBs, with the tripod masts and all,but why are they sinking or aflame in the middle of the ocean? Wasn't there...you know...some port or something nearby? Oyster Roads, wasn't it? No...wait...it was Barnacle Bay. No...not it either...um...Abalone anchorage?

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RE: Are these real? - 1/11/2014 12:56:53 PM   
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Damn... I saw the title of this thread and got all excited.....

That was the first thing that came to my mind.


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RE: Are these real? - 1/11/2014 2:24:57 PM   
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"Did you ever think about how close to losing the war we were if he wasn't in it ?"

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RE: Are these real? - 1/11/2014 6:47:28 PM   
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Anyone remember the old Bob Newhart dialogue when he talks about John Wayne War movies.

"Did you ever think about how close to losing the war we were if he wasn't in it ?"
warspite1

John Wayne pfft... we have a new hero now






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RE: Are these real? - 1/11/2014 9:04:51 PM   
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Anyone remember the old Bob Newhart dialogue when he talks about John Wayne War movies.

"Did you ever think about how close to losing the war we were if he wasn't in it ?"
warspite1

John Wayne pfft... we have a new hero now








That is just plain WRONG Warspite.

No one gets away with attacking THE DUKE while I am on watch!


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RE: Are these real? - 1/11/2014 10:21:09 PM   
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Anyone remember the old Bob Newhart dialogue when he talks about John Wayne War movies.

"Did you ever think about how close to losing the war we were if he wasn't in it ?"
warspite1

John Wayne pfft... we have a new hero now








That is just plain WRONG Warspite.

No one gets away with attacking THE DUKE while I am on watch!

warspite1

Sorry John 3rd, the Duke may have been considered cool once, but did he win the Battle of Britain single-handed? Stop the strike on Pearl Harbor from being a total disaster for the US? or raise Tokyo to the ground? I don't think so.

Credit where credit is due....


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RE: Are these real? - 1/13/2014 7:01:10 PM   
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Status: offline 		"Sorry John 3rd, the Duke may have been considered cool once, but did he win the Battle of Britain single-handed? Stop the strike on Pearl Harbor from being a total disaster for the US? or raise Tokyo to the ground? I don't think so. "

He built the bases across the Pacific. He sank carriers...from a sub! ( Go on, beat that!) Personally fixed the US torpedo problem. Ran ops in a torpedo boat in the PI, personally brought the USN into advanced carrier doctrine, charged after KB with 1 heavy cruiser, fought off the Yamato, 4 CA's, and 12 DD's with a scratch force of a CA and some CL's and DD's, shot up planes all over China, blew up a bridge with a dc3, stormed Tarawa and Iwo Jima....and that was just in WWII!!!

Next to The Duke that kid above is a phoney! (shocker, huh?!?)

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RE: Are these real? - 1/13/2014 7:13:26 PM   
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RE: Are these real? - 1/13/2014 7:20:38 PM   
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Would you guys quit with the Affleck pics? My eyes are burning.


Gorns don't blink. That may be your problem.

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RE: Are these real? - 1/13/2014 7:34:22 PM   
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Status: offline 		We don't have to, we have transparent membranes that close to protect them while eating for instance. They are no use against Affleck.

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RE: Are these real? - 1/13/2014 8:12:50 PM   
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Sorry John 3rd, the Duke may have been considered cool once, but did he win the Battle of Britain single-handed? Stop the strike on Pearl Harbor from being a total disaster for the US? or raise Tokyo to the ground? I don't think so.

Credit where credit is due....



So the Duke should be considered to be expendable?

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RE: Are these real? - 1/13/2014 8:59:11 PM   
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Sorry John 3rd, the Duke may have been considered cool once, but did he win the Battle of Britain single-handed? Stop the strike on Pearl Harbor from being a total disaster for the US? or raise Tokyo to the ground? I don't think so.

Credit where credit is due....



So the Duke should be considered to be expendable?



Blasphemy!

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RE: Are these real? - 1/13/2014 9:24:55 PM   
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Sorry John 3rd, the Duke may have been considered cool once, but did he win the Battle of Britain single-handed? Stop the strike on Pearl Harbor from being a total disaster for the US? or raise Tokyo to the ground? I don't think so.

Credit where credit is due....



So the Duke should be considered to be expendable?



Blasphemy!


But John Ford said so.

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RE: Are these real? - 1/13/2014 10:50:49 PM   
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Status: offline 		This reminds me of a story my father told. Just after the war he was living in a boarding house while finishing his degree in college. The son of the house's owner went to see a new movie called Fighter Squadron which was about a 9th AF P-47 unit. It had some cool flying scenes, but was a movie worthy of dumb chills otherwise.

When the kid came home from the movie he asked my father why it took him so long to beat the Axis. My father replied if the real Germans were as bad as Warner Brother's Germans, it would have been a short war.

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RE: Are these real? - 1/14/2014 3:26:52 AM   
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Status: offline 		The Duke was expendable. So much, in fact, he played a role in the movie, "They Were Expendable." A very WITP kinda' movie. He also died as a Seabee...in another film.

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RE: Are these real? - 1/14/2014 3:30:52 PM   
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RE: Are these real? - 1/14/2014 5:40:54 PM   
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Status: offline 		A Seebee, a Marine, and AVG pilot, a Merchant Marine Captain, a PT boat skipper, a Rear Admiral twice, a sub commander...and all in the same war!

The Duke was my role model growing up. He was all I had, but he was enough

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RE: Are these real? - 1/14/2014 8:29:57 PM   
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Anyone remember the old Bob Newhart dialogue when he talks about John Wayne War movies.

"Did you ever think about how close to losing the war we were if he wasn't in it ?"
warspite1

John Wayne pfft... we have a new hero now







That is just plain WRONG Warspite.

No one gets away with attacking THE DUKE while I am on watch!

warspite1

Sorry John 3rd, the Duke may have been considered cool once, but did he win the Battle of Britain single-handed? Stop the strike on Pearl Harbor from being a total disaster for the US? or raise Tokyo to the ground? I don't think so.

Credit where credit is due....




Jeez, you Brits used to misspell raze as rase, now your misspelling it raise?

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RE: Are these real? - 1/14/2014 8:32:26 PM   
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Anyone remember the old Bob Newhart dialogue when he talks about John Wayne War movies.

"Did you ever think about how close to losing the war we were if he wasn't in it ?"
warspite1

John Wayne pfft... we have a new hero now







That is just plain WRONG Warspite.

No one gets away with attacking THE DUKE while I am on watch!

warspite1

Sorry John 3rd, the Duke may have been considered cool once, but did he win the Battle of Britain single-handed? Stop the strike on Pearl Harbor from being a total disaster for the US? or raise Tokyo to the ground? I don't think so.

Credit where credit is due....




Jeez, you Brits used to misspell raze as rase, now your misspelling it raise?
warspite1

We don't mis-spell anything - its our language - we just like to **** off Gorns.


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