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ORIGINAL: geofflambert

, but I'm still repairing Tojo factories for later use when I may need to produce a lot in short order.

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ORIGINAL: geofflambert

I am listening. I've nearly completely shut down A6nM production and greatly reduced Tojo mfg., but I'm still repairing Tojo factories for later use when I may need to produce a lot in short order. I'm converting Zero sqds. to Claudes where convenient and for training in order to increase the replacement pool for A6M2s. Frank is a long way off, though, and at the rate I'm losing here I may never see that day. I'm hoping to leave most of the base protection to Jack and George and believe I will have sufficiently trained crews in reserve for that. That leaves the Tojos to do all the fighting and I have an inexhaustible pool of trained pilots for them (I think).

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ORIGINAL: Chickenboy

Geoflambert,

Are you still looking for insight regarding your competence? It's been a little while and I just wanted to know what your needs were for excoriation.

Best,

Chickenboy.

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ORIGINAL: Gräfin Zeppelin

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ORIGINAL: geofflambert

, but I'm still repairing Tojo factories for later use when I may need to produce a lot in short order.

Thats a rather wasteful approach regarding supplies. Especially because the Tojo is a dead end.

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ORIGINAL: PaxMondo

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ORIGINAL: geofflambert

I am listening. I've nearly completely shut down A6nM production and greatly reduced Tojo mfg., but I'm still repairing Tojo factories for later use when I may need to produce a lot in short order. I'm converting Zero sqds. to Claudes where convenient and for training in order to increase the replacement pool for A6M2s. Frank is a long way off, though, and at the rate I'm losing here I may never see that day. I'm hoping to leave most of the base protection to Jack and George and believe I will have sufficiently trained crews in reserve for that. That leaves the Tojos to do all the fighting and I have an inexhaustible pool of trained pilots for them (I think).

Well, yes, you do need to adapt any strategy to the reality of the game. As you say, no point prepping for '46 when you are up to your keister in Kirk's today.

If you think you will need Tojo's, then I would build them now as opposed to spending the supply to repair Tojo factories that you may not need. ie, halt (at least some if not all) of the Tojo factory repair and turn back on your Tojo production. Not sure how much Tojo production you have now, but if you have 100 repaired, you are ok. If you have 200 repaired, I would stop with that. Balance your Tojo production with your Oscar production. Most players build at least some Oscar for escort duty and/or LR sweeps.

A6M - keep production going to maintain pool (50 -100 planes is fine depending upon how you plan to use the KB). A5M should be used for training units. George/Jack are still a ways off ... you don't want to let your IJN groups go short on planes.

A2A losses:
Yardstick for 42 is that your A2A should be 1:1 ... many players do better (some have maintained 3:1 through most of '42, not me though), but you should point to that as a realistic goal. In '43, your A2A is going to drop off to hopefully not worse than 1:2. I try never to let it get worse than 1:3, although in '44 that can be tough to achieve.

FOW isn't the same on both sides, at least in my experience. IJ over reports allied losses by about 30%. So, if you see 90 allied P40's in the report shot down, yeah, take that as closer to 60. 30 of those were damaged, but survived to fight another day (armor is a big deal along with DUR, both of which are much higher in allied planes overall). And of course allied pilot losses are less than 50% of what the IJ will take, particularly in '42 when the IJ is on the offensive. So of those 60 planes the allies lost, expect they only lost 30 pilots ... IJ would have lost +55 pilots ...

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ORIGINAL: geofflambert

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ORIGINAL: PaxMondo

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ORIGINAL: geofflambert

I am listening. I've nearly completely shut down A6nM production and greatly reduced Tojo mfg., but I'm still repairing Tojo factories for later use when I may need to produce a lot in short order. I'm converting Zero sqds. to Claudes where convenient and for training in order to increase the replacement pool for A6M2s. Frank is a long way off, though, and at the rate I'm losing here I may never see that day. I'm hoping to leave most of the base protection to Jack and George and believe I will have sufficiently trained crews in reserve for that. That leaves the Tojos to do all the fighting and I have an inexhaustible pool of trained pilots for them (I think).

Well, yes, you do need to adapt any strategy to the reality of the game. As you say, no point prepping for '46 when you are up to your keister in Kirk's today.

If you think you will need Tojo's, then I would build them now as opposed to spending the supply to repair Tojo factories that you may not need. ie, halt (at least some if not all) of the Tojo factory repair and turn back on your Tojo production. Not sure how much Tojo production you have now, but if you have 100 repaired, you are ok. If you have 200 repaired, I would stop with that. Balance your Tojo production with your Oscar production. Most players build at least some Oscar for escort duty and/or LR sweeps.

A6M - keep production going to maintain pool (50 -100 planes is fine depending upon how you plan to use the KB). A5M should be used for training units. George/Jack are still a ways off ... you don't want to let your IJN groups go short on planes.

A2A losses:
Yardstick for 42 is that your A2A should be 1:1 ... many players do better (some have maintained 3:1 through most of '42, not me though), but you should point to that as a realistic goal. In '43, your A2A is going to drop off to hopefully not worse than 1:2. I try never to let it get worse than 1:3, although in '44 that can be tough to achieve.

FOW isn't the same on both sides, at least in my experience. IJ over reports allied losses by about 30%. So, if you see 90 allied P40's in the report shot down, yeah, take that as closer to 60. 30 of those were damaged, but survived to fight another day (armor is a big deal along with DUR, both of which are much higher in allied planes overall). And of course allied pilot losses are less than 50% of what the IJ will take, particularly in '42 when the IJ is on the offensive. So of those 60 planes the allies lost, expect they only lost 30 pilots ... IJ would have lost +55 pilots ...

How does 240 and counting on the Tojos grab you? I've noticed that planes shot down over friendly territory and especially with armored cockpits greatly improves survivability on the pilots. Here's the graphic showing my A2A, so you think he's actually at about 1,100? I guess it's good if you're a gorn.

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ORIGINAL: offenseman

CT- DBB has more robust AAA. That might help cause those losses. Last turn (Lenny, read on with caution) I sent 73 Sally against Singers and on day one of the turn, 20 were damaged by flak and little damage was caused. Base had no CAP to interfere either. In stock that result would not have happened in early 1/42 against Singers.

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ORIGINAL: castor troy



not sure what you are actually doing with your bombers but your flak losses just look horrible. Actually a more realistic number but for a "game" number it is looking really horrible to me for the date.

Total numbers lost, well, also looking realistic but in game terms quite heavy to me. 60% of your losses would be the max to accept for me at this stage of the game.

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ORIGINAL: geofflambert

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ORIGINAL: castor troy



not sure what you are actually doing with your bombers but your flak losses just look horrible. Actually a more realistic number but for a "game" number it is looking really horrible to me for the date.

Total numbers lost, well, also looking realistic but in game terms quite heavy to me. 60% of your losses would be the max to accept for me at this stage of the game.

Most of that's from Singapore. He put a lot of flak there before I started bombing, then I got desperate because he also added engineers there and was fixing damage faster than I was delivering it, so I started running the bombers in at 5k instead of 10k. I stopped bombing there altogether some time back, with the exception of naval attack.

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ORIGINAL: castor troy

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ORIGINAL: geofflambert

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ORIGINAL: castor troy



not sure what you are actually doing with your bombers but your flak losses just look horrible. Actually a more realistic number but for a "game" number it is looking really horrible to me for the date.

Total numbers lost, well, also looking realistic but in game terms quite heavy to me. 60% of your losses would be the max to accept for me at this stage of the game.

Most of that's from Singapore. He put a lot of flak there before I started bombing, then I got desperate because he also added engineers there and was fixing damage faster than I was delivering it, so I started running the bombers in at 5k instead of 10k. I stopped bombing there altogether some time back, with the exception of naval attack.

You got to be quite stubborn or careless if you lose a usual year's bomber production to flak of one base.

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ORIGINAL: Lokasenna

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ORIGINAL: castor troy

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ORIGINAL: geofflambert

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ORIGINAL: castor troy



not sure what you are actually doing with your bombers but your flak losses just look horrible. Actually a more realistic number but for a "game" number it is looking really horrible to me for the date.

Total numbers lost, well, also looking realistic but in game terms quite heavy to me. 60% of your losses would be the max to accept for me at this stage of the game.

Most of that's from Singapore. He put a lot of flak there before I started bombing, then I got desperate because he also added engineers there and was fixing damage faster than I was delivering it, so I started running the bombers in at 5k instead of 10k. I stopped bombing there altogether some time back, with the exception of naval attack.

You got to be quite stubborn or careless if you lose a usual year's bomber production to flak of one base.

To be fair, it may be the most tactically important base for Japan to take in initial expansion.

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ORIGINAL: castor troy

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ORIGINAL: Lokasenna

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ORIGINAL: castor troy

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ORIGINAL: geofflambert

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ORIGINAL: castor troy

not sure what you are actually doing with your bombers but your flak losses just look horrible. Actually a more realistic number but for a "game" number it is looking really horrible to me for the date.

Total numbers lost, well, also looking realistic but in game terms quite heavy to me. 60% of your losses would be the max to accept for me at this stage of the game.

Most of that's from Singapore. He put a lot of flak there before I started bombing, then I got desperate because he also added engineers there and was fixing damage faster than I was delivering it, so I started running the bombers in at 5k instead of 10k. I stopped bombing there altogether some time back, with the exception of naval attack.

You got to be quite stubborn or careless if you lose a usual year's bomber production to flak of one base.

To be fair, it may be the most tactically important base for Japan to take in initial expansion.

and that makes losing several hundred bombers worth it? Serious? Different people, different oppinions. I found and still find losing nearly 1000 bombers in one year war horrible, let alone losing most of them
over Singapore. That's clearly an example when I say the commander did something seriously wrong. There's nothing justifying the loss of so many bombers early on, that's just crazy to me.

My ongoing PBEM sees KB attacking Manila, is near Malaya three days later, the IJ lands at Mersing, Malay is cut in two, Northern pocket with 25000 men falls on the first attack for literally no loss, shock attack
into Singapore takes the base on first attempt. Total losses: 1 ship, 2 dozen aircraft, 50 squads of inf and support and some guns, all done in the first week of January with not much the Allied can do about as
there is nothing to be made out of thin air and stuff doesn't magically teleport around other than the IJN's magic task forces of turn one. Now this may be an ideal example but the OP's example must be the worst
then because I have never heard about losing hundreds and hundreds of bombers to flak over Singapore which makes asking about the IJ economy the wrong question, first to ask would be to avoid losses like this,
because with losses like this no economy can correspond.

How can one keep attacking at the wrong altitude after losing a couple of dozen bombers to flak just to keep on attacking the same way again and again to probably lose more than 1000 bombers doing so because
if there are nearly 1000 flak losses, then there are hundreds more that resulted in ops losses. Can only repeat me, horrible.

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ORIGINAL: geofflambert

Gorns are never wrong.