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Pirates are always furious with me and it NEVER changes - 2/9/2014 7:02:18 PM

Ghost Matter

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A pirate faction attacked as predicted when started in the Age of Shadows. I accepted the protection agreement and cancelled it some time later to get a lower price. They won't stop hating me.

They attack me so I defend myself. They hate me more. And it NEVER goes down and my growth is seriously hampered because they keep harassing me and cancelling protection. I can't attack them because their base is too far.

I managed to delete their bases in the game editor but I shouldn't have to do this! I want to keep pirates, just not the obnoxious current ones. This is really killing my enjoyment of the game.

< Message edited by Ghost Matter -- 2/9/2014 8:13:58 PM >

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RE: Pirates are always furious with me and it NEVER cha... - 2/9/2014 7:13:45 PM

Hawkeye_BF

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Hi,

I think you should accept the first protection agreement you get. The cancelation of it kills your relationship to the pirates. Live with first agreement until you are strong enough to fight against them.

The secound what you could do is to change the start settings for the pirates. For example you could reduce their strenght from "normal" to "weak"...

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RE: Pirates are always furious with me and it NEVER cha... - 2/9/2014 7:16:06 PM

Ghost Matter

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They're already at weak. And waiting for them to me to get stronger, the game would be finished since they are incredibly far away. I require the money I give them eventually, I'm already having enough trouble as it is. Maybe their distance from me as too far(Average) but I believe the relationship should improve after some time regardless.

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RE: Pirates are always furious with me and it NEVER cha... - 2/9/2014 7:32:33 PM

Hawkeye_BF

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I try to accept the first protection agreement with the strongest pirate fraction. But I never accept other deals like "colony location" or something like that. Weak pirate fractions I dont accept any deals because they dont pose a threat to me.
I just wondering that your pirates are furios to you. I play with difficulty "very hard" and "strong" pirates and i never had a problem like this also I ever had enough money to pay for the first protection.
At moment I can't help, but I hope somebody else can.
Would be very sad if you loose the fun for that great game...

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RE: Pirates are always furious with me and it NEVER cha... - 2/9/2014 7:59:32 PM

CyclopsSlayer

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Also remember, every credit you pay them in protection can come back to you as more Pirate ships you need protection from.

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RE: Pirates are always furious with me and it NEVER cha... - 2/9/2014 8:06:12 PM

Ralzakark

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You don't have to attack them at their home base at the start, only defend your own bases and colonies. It doesn't matter if they are furious with you if you are stong enough to fend them off. You can go pirate hunting later in the game when you can build longer range ships. So hang in there and don't give up!

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RE: Pirates are always furious with me and it NEVER cha... - 2/9/2014 9:03:43 PM

Ghost Matter

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Thanks for the tips. I still think relations should improve by themselves, kinda like in Crusader Kings II where tyranny maluses go away after a few years.

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RE: Pirates are always furious with me and it NEVER cha... - 2/9/2014 11:16:16 PM

Ardilus

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But they're pirates! I'm not sure there can be such a thing as a healthy relationship with pirates. In either case, they will never deny protection money, so I will often pay up only when I am about to lose an important base or something, and then cancel that arrangement after their ships have left the area. This way I am only paying out a small portion of the red annual. I always pay up at the start (rival empires need to deal with pirates as well so being harassed is not a game-ending setback), and then cancel once I get warp. At that point it is all about the quality of your overall, empire-building strategy. Don't give up! Manual DW has a steep learning curve, but enjoyment comes as you get better and learn to overcome sometimes ridiculous odds.

EDIT: (More thoughts)

In my current game, 32 years in as Ackdarian on very hard / scaled, I have 10 of 25 pirate factions furious with me, but I am dominating the game by a huge margin. Several factions I've destroyed completely, though we began with getting pirate-pummeled as it is meant to be. They can grow to be tough sons-a-*****'s, just fight and keep fighting. Take out their assets. Somewhere there's a gas mining-station -- blow it up. Get hyper-deny and LRS on a cruiser and hunt constructors. Harass them back!

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RE: Pirates are always furious with me and it NEVER cha... - 2/11/2014 7:11:40 PM

elanaagain

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Also, they won't be so 'furious' at you if you never respond to their dialog window offering an agreement. If you don't open it, and it fades up and out, then you haven't told the pirates "no thank you."

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