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MC-12W? - 2/10/2014 6:07:36 AM   
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Status: offline 		Just curious as to why the MC-12W wasn't included in the database. Not as sexy as some of the other ISR platforms but is being used as much as anything these days.
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RE: MC-12W? - 2/10/2014 6:39:39 AM   
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Status: offline 		Forgot to add it in my post but I've also been wondering why the GBU-57MOP wasn't included in the database. It would be an interesting weapon to have in any scenario involving the US vs Iran's nuclear program.

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RE: MC-12W? - 2/10/2014 7:24:25 AM   
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Status: offline 		These aren't included because we didn't have time to add more than ca 10 000 units to the database Both are on my to-do list. What would you say the priority for these are? We give stuff that are needed for a scenario higher priority.

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RE: MC-12W? - 2/10/2014 7:32:52 AM   
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Status: offline 		Haha no problem bro. Didn't mean to sound like an ass if thats how it came across. The MC-12 is medium priority because it would be a nice addition and add some depth/realism to a GWOT scenario I'm making. The GBU57 is probably low priority due to there being quite a few other weapons already included in the database that can preform a similar job.

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RE: MC-12W? - 2/10/2014 8:10:52 AM   
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Status: offline 		Okay will bump them and try to include them soon

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RE: MC-12W? - 2/13/2014 8:57:56 PM   
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RE: MC-12W? - 2/13/2014 11:09:28 PM   
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Status: offline 		Hey Emsoy. Glad to see you're still working on your DB3K. You may not remember me, but you and I used to converse quite a bit back in H2's early days. Jay Gibbs? Meh... Anyway, I have noticed that there is no loadout of GBU-39/53(B) for any variant of the F-35 JSF. Additionally, the B-1B, and B-2 are also SDB carriers, and no SDB loadouts exist for those AC, either. OBTW, Sorry bout the thread highjack, but I didn't want to create another thread just for this one issue.

A source for the concept comes from the official USAF website: http://www.af.mil/AboutUs/FactSheets/Display/tabid/224/Article/104573/gbu-39b-small-diameter-bomb-weapon-system.aspx and, http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/raytheon-wins-usas-gbu-53-small-diameter-bomb-competition-06510/

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RE: MC-12W? - 2/13/2014 11:37:13 PM   
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Status: offline 		I haven't done to much homework on this, mostly because wikipedia lacks info on the mc-12w, but can someone explain the purpose or rational of this asset, how is it better than the organic UAV's(shadows) or theater UAVs(pred, warrior, reaper). What is the argument for putting the souls up in the sky?

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RE: MC-12W? - 2/14/2014 12:10:16 AM   
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Status: offline 		Isn't this platform kind of a jackknife covering a wider spectrum of stuff including cellular intercepts etc.

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RE: MC-12W? - 2/14/2014 5:08:41 AM   
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Status: offline 		Hi! I made the same request in the warfaresims forum.http://www.warfaresims.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=12331&sid=0a9b215a5ba08853f31ba6f4b9466762 and provider a link. I think Mike is right. Many roles for this ac including buddy lasing etc.

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RE: MC-12W? - 2/14/2014 5:42:30 AM   
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ORIGINAL: NakedWeasel

Hey Emsoy. Glad to see you're still working on your DB3K. You may not remember me, but you and I used to converse quite a bit back in H2's early days. Jay Gibbs? Meh... Anyway, I have noticed that there is no loadout of GBU-39/53(B) for any variant of the F-35 JSF. Additionally, the B-1B, and B-2 are also SDB carriers, and no SDB loadouts exist for those AC, either. OBTW, Sorry bout the thread highjack, but I didn't want to create another thread just for this one issue.

A source for the concept comes from the official USAF website: http://www.af.mil/AboutUs/FactSheets/Display/tabid/224/Article/104573/gbu-39b-small-diameter-bomb-weapon-system.aspx and, http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/raytheon-wins-usas-gbu-53-small-diameter-bomb-competition-06510/


Hi Jay, of course I remember, it's great to see you here

Have updated the database and added the SDB-II to the F-15E from 2018 onwards. It seems the SDB-I has only been integrated on the F-15E and Italian Tornadoes so far, and the next plane will be the F-35 SDB-II in 2020. The SDB-II may also be added to the F/A-18's weapon inventory after 2020.

If you have more info on SDB integration work please let me know, but SDB-I production has been completed and I doubt the USAF will spend more money there.

Guys?

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RE: MC-12W? - 2/14/2014 9:38:40 PM   
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Status: offline 		Israelis got a bunch. Will add an item tonight to our list


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