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An Old Game Realized - 2/13/2014 11:47:27 PM

ulysisgrunt

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Is it just me, or is this game an excellent evolution from the ancient "Panzerbush" series of games???
I think I've waited more than 40years for this! Panzer Blitz was published in 1970;
leading the way to the "Squad Leader" series.
Danny Weitz

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RE: An Old Game Realized - 2/14/2014 6:33:33 PM

Rayfer

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The old board game Squad Leader....yes, very much so.

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RE: An Old Game Realized - 2/14/2014 8:54:06 PM

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Panzer Blitz, followed by Panzer Leader, followed by Squad Leader, followed by Advanced Squad Leader.

There were a number of attempts to computerize Squad Leader, none of them very successful. Maybe this one will hae better luck.

Henri

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RE: An Old Game Realized - 2/14/2014 9:52:33 PM

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It's a lot more elegant than ASL and SL.

Scratches the tactical itch with as much tension, at least as much narrative, solid tactical model, but far less rules overhead.

All good games, but with different focus areas.

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RE: An Old Game Realized - 2/17/2014 3:28:55 PM

ulysisgrunt

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Are there other games in the franchise in the works?
Danny Weitz

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RE: An Old Game Realized - 2/17/2014 4:05:48 PM

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I know Mark grinds his teeth with the SL/ASL comparisons, but to me they are right on in one key aspect: HoS gives me the same kind of thrill I remember having when I first played Panzerblitz and Squad Leader and thought, "Man this is so freaking cool!" The games are different, but the thrill is the same.

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RE: An Old Game Realized - 2/17/2014 6:49:26 PM

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The counters and maps are extremely like ASL's. As are many game concepts.

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RE: An Old Game Realized - 2/17/2014 9:23:24 PM

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Any tactical level game set in the same time period will have many of the same mechanics as SL/ASL. If they are the same scale it would be impossible not to.

Good Hunting.

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RE: An Old Game Realized - 2/19/2014 9:42:35 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: henri51

Panzer Blitz, followed by Panzer Leader, followed by Squad Leader, followed by Advanced Squad Leader.

Close Combat was an attempt to model ASL, and I think it is fantastic. Not really turn-based or anything, but I love it.

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RE: An Old Game Realized - 2/23/2014 2:54:59 AM

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I know Mark grinds his teeth with the SL/ASL comparisons...

I know, but I hope he knows that its a compliment.

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RE: An Old Game Realized - 2/24/2014 2:07:08 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Blond_Knight

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ORIGINAL: zouave

I know Mark grinds his teeth with the SL/ASL comparisons...

I know, but I hope he knows that its a compliment.

He has to realize we are not saying it "copied" ASL. If anything, his vision is a completely different spin, just at the same scale. Great game. I hope this PC version is very successful, allowing for much expansion in the future. Kudos.

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RE: An Old Game Realized - 3/1/2014 7:56:45 PM

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Yes, my dream is realised - the closest thing to PC Squad Leader! How I fiddled with those stacks of counters, tried to remember all the relevant modifiers, and tore my hair out when the cat decided to walk across the board!

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RE: An Old Game Realized - 6/9/2014 1:22:39 PM

ctsierra

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I can’t stop dream about a proper new Redbaricades campaign similar to the one in ASL.
Buying company’s and artillery, also see how your leaders got more experience was awesome.
all this would be possible here without the Rule ex.. ASL cave rule ... 11 pages ....WTF that killed that game for me.
HoS is perfect for me just keep spitting out those real campaign’s and I will pay 100$ if it’s necessary.

Keep up the good work

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