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1943 December 14 - 3/6/2014 3:44:47 AM

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1943 December 14

The Empire captured:

The Allies captured:

There were Imperial amphibious operations at:

There were Allied amphibious operations at:

Our subs got a tanker.

Same beatings in China. The Imperial horde has arrived at Urumchi.

The attack in Burma was bloody and costly.

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Ground combat at 56,51 (near Toungoo)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 115337 troops, 1837 guns, 2596 vehicles, Assault Value = 2620

Defending force 49696 troops, 456 guns, 84 vehicles, Assault Value = 1090

Allied adjusted assault: 1077

Japanese adjusted defense: 2327

Allied assault odds: 1 to 2

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
1794 casualties reported
Squads: 46 destroyed, 83 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 13 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 11 disabled
Guns lost 19 (2 destroyed, 17 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
6440 casualties reported
Squads: 239 destroyed, 222 disabled
Non Combat: 90 destroyed, 165 disabled
Engineers: 59 destroyed, 38 disabled
Guns lost 135 (48 destroyed, 87 disabled)
Vehicles lost 351 (146 destroyed, 205 disabled)

Assaulting units:
50th Tank Brigade
2nd British Division
20th Indian Division
192nd Tank Battalion
1st Garrison Brigade
Rifles of Canada Battalion
29th British Brigade
26th Indian Brigade
I Aus Corps Engineer Battalion
19th Indian Division
23rd Indian Division
Provisionl Tank Brigade
75th Indian Brigade
7th Indian Division
637th Tank Destroyer Battalion
4th Marine Division
Gardner's Horse Regiment
268th Motorised Brigade
14th Indian Division
13th Indian Brigade
22nd (East African) Brigade
150th RAC Regiment
3rd Carabiniers Regiment
255th Armoured Brigade
17th Indian Division
78th Light AA Regiment
2/1st Med Regiment
27th Indian Field Artillery Battalion
2/11th Field Regiment
48th Light AA Regiment
IV Indian Corps
77th Heavy AA Regiment
2/9th Field Regiment
22nd Indian Mountain Gun Regiment

Defending units:
53rd/A Division
40th Inf Group Brigade
14th Division
29th Division
56th Infantry Regiment
53rd/B Division
77th Infantry Regiment
53rd/C Division
55th Mountain Gun Regiment

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Another B-24J group is coming on line at Dimapur and will begin operating with the others tomorrow.

Allied bombardments in the Pacific.

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Allied Ships Bombarding Saipan
Allied Ships Bombarding Guam
Allied Ships Bombarding Peleliu
Allied Ships Bombarding Saipan
Allied Ships Bombarding Yap
Allied Ships Bombarding Saipan
Allied Ships Bombarding Guam

The troops at Guam need at least one more day, possibly two, but most likely one. The 24th ID is at 24% disruption and the 33rd ID is at 17%. So, they attack tomorrow anyway. We had a disruption modifier on the Imperial troops for the last attack and we might just get away with this. BTW, Guam again shows 28,900 enemy troops, so obviously the large decline seen in Imperial troop strength was a bad recon day.

Guam supply: 88,118 tons (9,522 tons supply was unloaded today.)
The supply convoy on site has 23,305 tons. Two more supply convoys en route with 11,382 tons and 39,996 tons.

BC Repulse has finished repairs at Cape Town and begins her way back to action. The NZ 11th and 12th Bdes have been delivered to Vanimo where they will finish their target preparation for Yap.

Lots of convoys in the central Philippines.

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1943 December 15 - 3/7/2014 5:02:32 AM

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1943 December 15

The Empire captured:

The Allies captured:

There were Imperial amphibious operations at:

There were Allied amphibious operations at:

Our subs got an AK, an xAK, an SC, and a TK.

The same in China, plus the first attack at Urumchi.

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Ground combat at Urumchi (79,11)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 10482 troops, 78 guns, 12 vehicles, Assault Value = 358

Defending force 4231 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 106

Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 2

Japanese adjusted assault: 160

Allied adjusted defense: 165

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 2 (fort level 2)

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), preparation(-), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
297 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 37 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Allied ground losses:
545 casualties reported
Squads: 18 destroyed, 12 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 8 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

Assaulting units:
8th Mongol Cavalry Division
31st Tankette Co
104th/A Division
110th/A Division
NCPC Army

Defending units:
303rd Brigade
259th Brigade
21st Chinese Base Force

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Where is the Soviet armor when you need it? 4,535 AV at Chungking.

The troops near Toungoo are recovering well, save a small number of units that still have sky high disruption. They will be given as much time as they need. The IJN shipping along the coast of lower Burma is gone, presumably their supply and reinforcement runs finished for now. CA Suffolk and DDs Isaac Sweers and Roebuck are repairing at Colombo.

Allied bombardments in the Pacific.

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Allied Ships Bombarding Guam
Allied Ships Bombarding Guam
Allied Ships Bombarding Guam
Allied Ships Bombarding Peleliu
Allied Ships Bombarding Guam
Allied Ships Bombarding Saipan
Allied Ships Bombarding Yap
Allied Ships Bombarding Guam
Allied Ships Bombarding Saipan
Allied Ships Bombarding Guam

The attack at Guam went very well. The defenses at Guam have cracked and the base will fall within two more attacks. If the troops look ready for a shock attack next time, that might do it but for now the troops must rest until ready. Again one armored unit and all but one division are in reserve to recover.

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Ground combat at Guam (106,95)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 72676 troops, 1237 guns, 1240 vehicles, Assault Value = 2102

Defending force 22091 troops, 268 guns, 166 vehicles, Assault Value = 314

Allied engineers reduce fortifications to 4

Allied adjusted assault: 3668

Japanese adjusted defense: 727

Allied assault odds: 5 to 1 (fort level 4)

Allied Assault reduces fortifications to 4

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), disruption(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
1697 casualties reported
Squads: 6 destroyed, 123 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 18 disabled
Engineers: 3 destroyed, 10 disabled
Guns lost 61 (22 destroyed, 39 disabled)
Vehicles lost 16 (2 destroyed, 14 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
1934 casualties reported
Squads: 72 destroyed, 71 disabled
Non Combat: 40 destroyed, 14 disabled
Engineers: 7 destroyed, 6 disabled
Guns lost 26 (13 destroyed, 13 disabled)
Vehicles lost 116 (70 destroyed, 46 disabled)

Assaulting units:
763rd Tank Battalion
1st (Spec) Cavalry Division
3rd USMC Tank Battalion
4th USMC Tank Battalion
33rd Infantry Division
3rd Marine Division
762nd Tank Battalion
7th Infantry Division
24th Infantry Division
1st Marine Division
2nd USMC Tank Battalion
3rd NZ Armoured Sqn
198th Field Artillery Battalion
249th Field Artillery Battalion
XI US Corps
225th Field Artillery Battalion
2nd Pioneer Battalion
33rd Medium Regiment

Defending units:
12th/B Division
12th/A Division
Det. 3rd Special Base Force
12th/C Division
2nd Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
3rd Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
15th Base Force
13th RF Gun (Pack) Battalion
13th Air Flotilla
19th Army
65th Field AA Battalion
10th Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment
59th Field AA Battalion
25th Special Base Force

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Supply on ships at or headed for Guam: 9,885 + 13,761 + 39,996 = 63,642
Supply unloaded today: 74,683 (yesterday's at sea) - 63,642 (today's at sea) = 11,041
Supply on Guam: 90,081
Supply used today: 88,118 (yesterday) + 11,041 (unloaded) - 90,081(today) = 9,078

Here is the overview map.

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RE: 1943 December 15 - 3/7/2014 1:49:07 PM

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witpqs, a question for you regarding resting troops. Do you find it more efficient to put disrupted troops in reserve in the combat hex or moving them to an adjacent road hex for rest and recuperation? I haven't tested this, but thought you may have looked at the efficiency of each method. Moving, even on a major road, entails considerable transit time for the unit, but it might recover much faster in a non-combat hex. Thoughts?

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RE: 1943 December 15 - 3/7/2014 1:51:33 PM

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Also, looking at your latest map, I see Admiral Wa still controls the Marshalls and Wake Is. Are either of these areas causing any disruption to your supply pipeline from the US or Pearl Harbor? Does Wa station any naval or air forces on those bases or has he essentially abandon them?

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RE: 1943 December 15 - 3/7/2014 2:57:07 PM

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ORIGINAL: princep01

witpqs, a question for you regarding resting troops. Do you find it more efficient to put disrupted troops in reserve in the combat hex or moving them to an adjacent road hex for rest and recuperation? I haven't tested this, but thought you may have looked at the efficiency of each method. Moving, even on a major road, entails considerable transit time for the unit, but it might recover much faster in a non-combat hex. Thoughts?

I think the key is the travel time. And, the more battered a unit is the slower it moves. I think which way to go is situation dependent. For example, right now I have three units heading back to Toungoo because they are no longer helpful, certainly not in comparison to their stacking value. I had kept some on the line because they had heavy weapons or artillery that could contribute in spite of being essentially "hors de squads" (

).

BTW I also have a regiment that just made Prome and is going into strat mode to join the fun. As is a fresh Indian division on the road to Prome, and a fresh (but reconstituted at 40 exp) armor unit just about to make the road from Ramree Island.

Overall though, putting units into reserve helps them recover much more quickly. I'm kicking myself for not experimenting with that earlier. It's not magic, as this last turn showed, but on balance it seems to really help.

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RE: 1943 December 15 - 3/7/2014 3:08:23 PM

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ORIGINAL: princep01

Also, looking at your latest map, I see Admiral Wa still controls the Marshalls and Wake Is. Are either of these areas causing any disruption to your supply pipeline from the US or Pearl Harbor? Does Wa station any naval or air forces on those bases or has he essentially abandon them?

No problem with the Marshalls. I think I covered some ops a while back where he tried to get some shipping in and out, plus move some barges around the islands. I've had naval search over those islands all along and used a few destroyers to clear out the vermin!

Eniwetok gives me search over Wake and links well with the search from Midway, Johnston, the northern Gilberts on one side and Truk and Rota on the other side. So I should be able to see trouble coming. I am sensitive to the fact that the Devious One may well be allowing a long period of quiet for routine to set in and allow raiders a better chance of success. It could also be that with Allied bases at Truk and Rota he calculates that whatever raiders aim for those SLOCs are almost sure to be on a one way trip. Dunno. Have to ask after the game.

I have many of the small (Bn-ish) forces preparing for various of the Marshalls. Wotje will be first so as to give an airbase within DB range of the other islands, but those forces are mostly in the 60's preparation, which is why I'm waiting. No hurry there, the targets' assets are all fixed and can only waste with time. I've got one CA and two or three DD sitting around doing much of nothing in the meantime, but considering the effectiveness of the Wtje guns against the destroyers that (tried to!) bombard last time I think I will borrow some battleships for the actual landing.

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RE: 1943 December 15 - 3/7/2014 6:25:20 PM

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Thanks for the tip on the use of reserve to allow troops to recover. Typically, following the clearing of a base, I just put the victorious troops in rest for a few turns and take on replacements while they start planning their next objective. I will try putting them in reserve to see if it speeds things. While still in a contested hex, I had not really thought about reserve as a means of "resting" them, but will use that in the future. I had been pulling them back to a friendly base when possible. Fortunately, I have not had to resort to either on my atoll attacks as they have all been against meager forces to date. However, the going is about to start getting a lot tougher as I move into my opponents more heavily defended positions in 1943 (we are in mid-December 42 currently).

We had our second major CV action near Kwajalein in the Marshalls on December 9-10. The Allies, w/ 4 CVs won a significant victory, sinking 6 of 7 IJN carriers (Soryu, Hiyo, Junyo, Zuiho, Shoho and little CVE Hosho for the loss of Enterprise and Hornet). Zuikaku survived with heavy damage, but is still in harms way at Kwajalein port. I would dearly like to see her join the others in Davey Jones' Locker. B-24s from Tarawa are trying to finish her off. The first CV battle went his way as half the KB and friends caught Wasp and Lexington making a land strike on Rabaul. Both were heavily damaged, but survived. BB N. Carolina (lost) absorbed 7 torpedoes to save the CVs. A clear IJN victory, but, at least, my landing at Lae concluded successfully without further loss.

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RE: 1943 December 15 - 3/7/2014 6:39:21 PM

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ORIGINAL: princep01

Thanks for the tip on the use of reserve to allow troops to recover. Typically, following the clearing of a base, I just put the victorious troops in rest for a few turns and take on replacements while they start planning their next objective. I will try putting them in reserve to see if it speeds things. While still in a contested hex, I had not really thought about reserve as a means of "resting" them, but will use that in the future. I had been pulling them back to a friendly base when possible. Fortunately, I have not had to resort to either on my atoll attacks as they have all been against meager forces to date. However, the going is about to start getting a lot tougher as I move into my opponents more heavily defended positions in 1943 (we are in mid-December 42 currently).

We had our second major CV action near Kwajalein in the Marshalls on December 9-10. The Allies, w/ 4 CVs won a significant victory, sinking 6 of 7 IJN carriers (Soryu, Hiyo, Junyo, Zuiho, Shoho and little CVE Hosho for the loss of Enterprise and Hornet). Zuikaku survived with heavy damage, but is still in harms way at Kwajalein port. I would dearly like to see her join the others in Davey Jones' Locker. B-24s from Tarawa are trying to finish her off. The first CV battle went his way as half the KB and friends caught Wasp and Lexington making a land strike on Rabaul. Both were heavily damaged, but survived. BB N. Carolina (lost) absorbed 7 torpedoes to save the CVs. A clear IJN victory, but, at least, my landing at Lae concluded successfully without further loss.

Nice going! Port attack might get the cripple, but a CA or CL TF making a bombardment might also be worth a try.

Whatever axis you take, try to slice through before forts get too high. They started at level 7 on Guam!

Where is your AAR?

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RE: 1943 December 15 - 3/7/2014 9:33:18 PM

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An AAR? Well, I actually could do one now as I retired last Friday, but I am also very paranoid:).

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RE: 1943 December 15 - 3/7/2014 9:38:15 PM

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Hmm.

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RE: 1943 December 15 - 3/7/2014 9:38:51 PM

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RE: 1943 December 15 - 3/7/2014 10:30:48 PM

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LOL! Thanks witpqs I needed that laugh!

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RE: 1943 December 15 - 3/8/2014 12:39:58 AM

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I resemble that remark:). In fact, looking more closely, I think I rather resemble that black cat.

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RE: 1943 December 15 - 3/8/2014 9:27:44 PM

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witpgs, I am having some trouble figuring out how units/ports generate naval repair points. Are naval repair points at a given location shown on the port or base displays? What gives a port or base naval repair points? I see that USN base forces show naval repair points. Are USN base forces the only thing that determine how many naval repair points a base has? Thanks in advance for any advice.

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RE: 1943 December 15 - 3/8/2014 9:53:35 PM

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witpgs, I am having some trouble figuring out how units/ports generate naval repair points. Are naval repair points at a given location shown on the port or base displays? What gives a port or base naval repair points? I see that USN base forces show naval repair points. Are USN base forces the only thing that determine how many naval repair points a base has? Thanks in advance for any advice.

Pg 239 of that mysterious tome known as the *Manual* gives the start of all that info. A port has repair assist depending upon it's size (there is a chart). There are also LCU's and ships that can provide additional assistance.

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RE: 1943 December 15 - 3/8/2014 11:11:47 PM

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LCUs help at the squad level, if they naval support squads. In Babes, with the more intricate engineer squads, there might be some squads other than naval support squads that perform those duties but I don't recall off the top of my head.

So I look at:
shipyard size
port size
naval support present (or supplied via a nearby HQ) - shown on the base display
AR ships
ARD ships
tender ships - AD, AG, etc.

I remember Michael commenting that naval HQ do not help beyond naval support squads, if they have any. If I got that right, then command HQ should be the same, beyond naval support squads that is. I think that both of those HQ types help to assign naval support to nearby bases.

And no, AFAIK repair points are not shown on the port display. Bear in mind that while some things can only be done in a shipyard, the various other things wrong with a ship might be done much faster pier-side if the port has lots of resources available and few ships under repair. It might be faster (in unusual cases) to put a ship in pier-side repair until it has repaired all that it can, then move it to the shipyard.

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1943 December 16 - 3/13/2014 12:17:25 AM

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1943 December 16

The Empire captured:

The Allies captured:

There were Imperial amphibious operations at:

There were Allied amphibious operations at:

Our subs got an xAK, while the Empire successfully defended against numerous other attacks.

Same stuff in China (today 4,524 AV at Chungking), plus the end is near at Urumchi.

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Ground combat at Urumchi (79,11)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 10238 troops, 78 guns, 12 vehicles, Assault Value = 330

Defending force 3868 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 75

Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 1

Japanese adjusted assault: 222

Allied adjusted defense: 87

Japanese assault odds: 2 to 1 (fort level 1)

Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), preparation(-), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
472 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 25 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

Allied ground losses:
445 casualties reported
Squads: 33 destroyed, 11 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Assaulting units:
104th/A Division
31st Tankette Co
8th Mongol Cavalry Division
110th/A Division
NCPC Army

Defending units:
303rd Brigade
259th Brigade
21st Chinese Base Force

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The troops there are in good shape, just outnumbered and outgunned. We did pull off a small aerial ambush of Judy DB near Kunming, slaying 12 of the little dragons. Meanwhile NW of Mengtze an Imperial unit, believed to be one already retreated, has moved onto the road opposite the Chinese units there. They appear to want to prevent retreats if the Empire is successful on the main battle line. Our forces will attack them tomorrow.

In Burma our troops are still recovering from the last battle, and other troops are moving up (that will take at least a week). (Old) CA Frobisher has completed repairs at Bombay.

Allied bombardments in the Pacific.

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Allied Ships Bombarding Saipan
Allied Ships Bombarding Saipan
Allied Ships Bombarding Peleliu
Allied Ships Bombarding Guam
Allied Ships Bombarding Guam
Allied Ships Bombarding Yap
Allied Ships Bombarding Guam

As much as I would like to order an attack at Guam tomorrow, three of the IDs still have disruption in the 20s and 30s %. The Imperial flag will fly above Guam for one day longer.

Supply on ships at or headed for Guam: 32,725 + 4,375 + 7,007 = 44,107
Supply unloaded today: 63,642 (yesterday's at sea) - 44,107 (today's at sea) = 19,535
Supply on Guam: 104,923
Supply used today: 90,081 (yesterday) + 19,535 (unloaded) - 104,923 (today) = 4,693

Here are the air losses, showing the results of the ambush near Kunming.

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1943 December 17 - 3/13/2014 4:03:41 AM

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1943 December 17

The Empire captured:

The Allies captured:

There were Imperial amphibious operations at:

There were Allied amphibious operations at:

Our subs got an xAK.

Two victories in China! Our forces at Urumchi were faced with imminent expulsion, but instead sent a note to the invaders, proclaiming "We fart in your general direction!". Later, the offending Imperial unit near Mengtze was cast out.

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Ground combat at Urumchi (79,11)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 9952 troops, 78 guns, 12 vehicles, Assault Value = 299

Defending force 3599 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 66

Japanese adjusted assault: 208

Allied adjusted defense: 133

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 1)

Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 0

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), preparation(-), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
438 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 42 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

Allied ground losses:
294 casualties reported
Squads: 20 destroyed, 9 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 22 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled

Assaulting units:
8th Mongol Cavalry Division
104th/A Division
31st Tankette Co
110th/A Division
NCPC Army

Defending units:
303rd Brigade
259th Brigade
21st Chinese Base Force

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Ground combat at 67,49 (near Mengtze)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 33599 troops, 14 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 818

Defending force 2236 troops, 10 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 69

Allied adjusted assault: 495

Japanese adjusted defense: 112

Allied assault odds: 4 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
978 casualties reported
Squads: 23 destroyed, 34 disabled
Non Combat: 8 destroyed, 6 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Units retreated 1

Allied ground losses:
293 casualties reported
Squads: 5 destroyed, 16 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 1 disabled

Defeated Japanese Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
37th Chinese Corps
50th Chinese Corps
78th Chinese Corps
91st Chinese Corps
21st Chinese Cavalry Division
32nd Chinese Corps
3rd Chinese Corps
97th Chinese Corps

Defending units:
113th Infantry Regiment

Our P-47 groups swept Moulmein, where recon shows >20 Imperial fighters, but found only empty sky.

Allied bombardments in the Pacific.

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Allied Ships Bombarding Saipan
Allied Ships Bombarding Saipan
Allied Ships Bombarding Peleliu
Allied Ships Bombarding Guam
Allied Ships Bombarding Guam
Allied Ships Bombarding Yap
Allied Ships Bombarding Guam

Two of the IDs at Guam are at 13% and 15% disruption, all other units' disruption is in the single digits. Shock attack ordered tomorrow.

Supply on ships at or headed for Guam: 21,739 + 1,493 = 23,232
Supply unloaded today: 44,107 (yesterday's at sea) - 23,232 (today's at sea) = 20,875
Supply on Guam: 120,390
Supply used today: 104,923 (yesterday) + 20,875 (unloaded) - 120,390 (today) = 5,408

Here is a look at the forces on Guam, with the HQ and artillery units filtered out to keep things on one page.

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RE: 1943 December 17 - 3/13/2014 4:44:44 PM

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The Guam horde looks ready. Guam should be yours on the morrow.

I have another question for you. In a recent CV battle, I lost two US CVs. A few of their AC managed to reach the surviving CVs safely. In all, I guess the 2 surviving CVs (victors) took on fragments of 8 squadrons with about 20 AC. The victorious CVs put into a large port following the battle. My question is : What does one do with the surviving squadrons from the lost CVs? I guess I could fill them out with replacement pilots and AC and use them from land bases, but I am more inclined to simply disband them if I can and allow the 20 surviving ACs to go into the pools. What have you done in this circumstance (if you ever faced it)?

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1943 December 18 - 3/13/2014 5:57:20 PM

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1943 December 18

The Empire captured:

The Allies captured:
Guam

There were Imperial amphibious operations at:

There were Allied amphibious operations at:

Our subs got two xAK.

Aerial bombing in China, but nothing else of note. 4,454 AV at Chungking.

Once again a convoy of supply and/or troops is moving north along the lower Burma coast.

Allied bombardments in the Pacific.

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Allied Ships Bombarding Guam
Allied Ships Bombarding Saipan
Allied Ships Bombarding Guam
Allied Ships Bombarding Peleliu
Allied Ships Bombarding Guam
Allied Ships Bombarding Saipan
Allied Ships Bombarding Yap
Allied Ships Bombarding Guam
Allied Ships Bombarding Saipan
Allied Ships Bombarding Guam

Guam!

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Ground combat at Guam (106,95)

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 71773 troops, 1229 guns, 1210 vehicles, Assault Value = 2012

Defending force 20691 troops, 237 guns, 160 vehicles, Assault Value = 242

Allied adjusted assault: 3418

Japanese adjusted defense: 445

Allied assault odds: 7 to 1 (fort level 4)

Allied forces CAPTURE Guam !!!

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
N1K1-J George: 1 destroyed

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), disruption(-), experience(-)
Attacker: shock(+)

Japanese ground losses:
2768 casualties reported
Squads: 27 destroyed, 126 disabled
Non Combat: 95 destroyed, 56 disabled
Engineers: 56 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 151 (127 destroyed, 24 disabled)
Vehicles lost 125 (124 destroyed, 1 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
1869 casualties reported
Squads: 55 destroyed, 71 disabled
Non Combat: 48 destroyed, 15 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 7 disabled
Guns lost 23 (12 destroyed, 11 disabled)
Vehicles lost 82 (67 destroyed, 15 disabled)
Units destroyed 1

Assaulting units:
2nd USMC Tank Battalion
1st (Spec) Cavalry Division
763rd Tank Battalion
1st Marine Division
3rd USMC Tank Battalion
7th Infantry Division
762nd Tank Battalion
3rd Marine Division
33rd Infantry Division
24th Infantry Division
4th USMC Tank Battalion
3rd NZ Armoured Sqn
198th Field Artillery Battalion
225th Field Artillery Battalion
XI US Corps
2nd Pioneer Battalion
249th Field Artillery Battalion
33rd Medium Regiment

Defending units:
12th Division
Det. 3rd Special Base Force
15th Base Force
65th Field AA Battalion
2nd Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
13th RF Gun (Pack) Battalion
19th Army
59th Field AA Battalion
13th Air Flotilla
3rd Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
10th Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment
25th Special Base Force

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2nd Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion Wiped Out at Guam by attrition!!!
3rd Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion Wiped Out at Guam by attrition!!!
10th Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment Wiped Out at Guam by attrition!!!
13th RF Gun (Pack) Battalion Wiped Out at Guam by attrition!!!
65th Field AA Battalion Wiped Out at Guam by attrition!!!
59th Field AA Battalion Wiped Out at Guam by attrition!!!
Det. 3rd Special Base Force Wiped Out at Guam by attrition!!!
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2nd USMC Tank Battalion was destroyed in the battle. The troops will rest before reducing what are believed to be 5 remaining enemy units. Minesweepers are moving in to clear the base, which itself is wrecked. Engineers are standing by at sea but really must wait for space to be made available on the island. Without the benefit of fortifications or supply, the enemy garrison should have trouble surviving very long. The two USMC divisions are being pulled out and sent to Hansa Bay to begin their recovery and begin preparing for Iwo Jima. Less crowding should speed the recovery of the remaining troops.

Supply on ships at or headed for Guam: 12,793
Supply unloaded today: 23,232 (yesterday's at sea) - 12,793 (today's at sea) = 10,439
Supply on Guam: 75,066 (at base) + 73,247 (in units) = 148,313
Supply used/captured today: 120,390 (yesterday) + 10,439 (unloaded) - 148,313 (today) = -17,484

So if we used 0 supply on Guam, we captured 17,484 tons. Deliberate attacks have been using between 9k and 10k tons each, and this shock attack probably used double (anybody recall what the manual says?). I figure we captured in the ballpark of 35k to 37k tons of supply on Guam.

Here is a look at Guam.

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RE: 1943 December 17 - 3/13/2014 6:00:13 PM

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The Guam horde looks ready. Guam should be yours on the morrow.

I have another question for you. In a recent CV battle, I lost two US CVs. A few of their AC managed to reach the surviving CVs safely. In all, I guess the 2 surviving CVs (victors) took on fragments of 8 squadrons with about 20 AC. The victorious CVs put into a large port following the battle. My question is : What does one do with the surviving squadrons from the lost CVs? I guess I could fill them out with replacement pilots and AC and use them from land bases, but I am more inclined to simply disband them if I can and allow the 20 surviving ACs to go into the pools. What have you done in this circumstance (if you ever faced it)?

Oh, I've faced it!!

If they are fragments then you can not add planes to them. You can use them until they have zero planes in them if you need to, which sometimes one does. Eventually you will want to disband them (to the pools as you say) so that you can buy back those air units, which is definitely a good idea.

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RE: 1943 December 17 - 3/13/2014 8:31:17 PM

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Nice. Guam and Rota down. Soon enough, the rest of the Marianna Islands, and then.........the drone of B-29s.

Admiral Wa's head may be on a stick by the end of 44. Figuratively speaking, of course.

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1943 December 19 - 3/14/2014 7:11:23 PM

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1943 December 19

The Empire captured:
Urumchi

The Allies captured:

There were Imperial amphibious operations at:

There were Allied amphibious operations at:

Our subs got a tanker.

Urumchi.

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Ground combat at Urumchi (79,11)

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 9748 troops, 78 guns, 12 vehicles, Assault Value = 280

Defending force 2621 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 57

Japanese adjusted assault: 316

Allied adjusted defense: 99

Japanese assault odds: 3 to 1 (fort level 1)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Urumchi !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), experience(-)
Attacker: shock(+)

Japanese ground losses:
126 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 9 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Units pursuing 1

Allied ground losses:
1018 casualties reported
Squads: 21 destroyed, 7 disabled
Non Combat: 21 destroyed, 4 disabled
Engineers: 4 destroyed, 0 disabled
Units retreated 2

Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
104th/A Division
8th Mongol Cavalry Division
31st Tankette Co
110th/A Division
NCPC Army

Defending units:
259th Brigade
21st Chinese Base Force

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An Imperial armoured unit is pursuing the defenders toward Poland.

BB Valiant has arrived at Bombay and will go directly into the shipyard for her December '43 upgrade.

Allied bombardments in the Pacific.

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Allied Ships Bombarding Saipan
Allied Ships Bombarding Saipan
Allied Ships Bombarding Peleliu
Allied Ships Bombarding enemy troops at Guam
Allied Ships Bombarding enemy troops at Guam
Allied Ships Bombarding Yap
Allied Ships Bombarding enemy troops at Guam

Rota has maximized at port size 3. Guam is now down to 61,701 stacking on 35,000 capacity. The troops still need significant rest. It looks like there are no more mine fields at Guam, but the sweepers will continue looking (two fields were cleared today). The engineers with the troops at Guam - no dedicated units but they add up with so many divisions - repaired almost nothing today, proving the point that disruption does impact engineers' functioning. The artillery units have been set to bombard while the other units recover.

Lexington and Saratoga are heading back to Pearl Harbor to be there in time for their Jan '44 upgrades. Lexington will also finally get to repair battle damage to some 5 inch mounts and her surface search radar.

Here is Guam.

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RE: 1943 December 19 - 3/14/2014 7:21:27 PM

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Hi, can you explain what are the 9 Shore Party (Naval Support) in the Guam screen? I've never seen this. Thanks.

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RE: 1943 December 19 - 3/14/2014 7:31:04 PM

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Hi, can you explain what are the 9 Shore Party (Naval Support) in the Guam screen? I've never seen this. Thanks.

I believe they are from the USMC Pioneer Bn there. Go to the Babes web site or various threads and you will see that they added more engineer types to get closer to historical capabilities. Essentially (as I remember it) Shore Party ability helps to speed loading and unloading but does not provide the other benefits that full-blown Naval Support would provide (such as ship repair).

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RE: 1943 December 19 - 3/14/2014 7:54:36 PM

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An Imperial armoured unit is pursuing the defenders toward Poland.

Why not let those guys just wander the Taklimakan and starve in peace!

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1943 December 20 - 3/15/2014 12:35:38 AM

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1943 December 20

The Empire captured:

The Allies captured:
Babo

There were Imperial amphibious operations at:

There were Allied amphibious operations at:

Our subs got two xAK and an xAKL.

The tankettes attacked our brave brigades north of Urumchi but our valiant forces continue their journey to eastern Europe. Chungking was especially hard hit from the air today. 4,211 AV at Chungking.

Big air battles over Rangoon. Yesterday scouting showed no enemy aircraft present. Today are seen 100 - after the losses shown below! (A few of those Franks were lost over Guam, flying LRCAP from Pagan. They inflicted no casualties there.)

SigInt seems to indicate that the Japanese 4th Division is aboard ships heading for Tavoy. Valiant will not upgrade at Bombay so off to Cape Town. I had hoped to keep Cape Town working only on POW.

Allied bombardments in the Pacific.

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Allied Ships Bombarding Saipan
Allied Ships Bombarding Saipan
Allied Ships Bombarding Tinian
Allied Ships Bombarding Peleliu
Allied Ships Bombarding enemy troops at Guam
Allied Ships Bombarding enemy troops at Guam
Allied Ships Bombarding Yap
Allied Ships Bombarding Tinian
Allied Ships Bombarding enemy troops at Guam
Allied Ships Bombarding Tinian

In addition to the Franks flying LRCAP over Guam (mentioned above), there was this cheeky opposition to our naval bombardments!

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Night Air attack on TF, near Tinian at 108,94

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 75 NM, estimated altitude 17,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 26 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 3

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
BB New Mexico

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x G4M1 Betty bombing from 11000 feet
Naval Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb

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Night fighters being a luxury that air base space will not allow at the moment, Pagan will be bombarded.

Courtesy of the new and improved recon artillery shells, here is what is left of the Emperor's forces on Guam.

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Ground combat at Guam (106,95)

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 768 troops, 87 guns, 65 vehicles, Assault Value = 1390

Defending force 15868 troops, 107 guns, 44 vehicles, Assault Value = 59

Japanese ground losses:
94 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 4 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 2 (2 destroyed, 0 disabled)

Assaulting units:
1st (Spec) Cavalry Division
7th Infantry Division
762nd Tank Battalion
24th Infantry Division
763rd Tank Battalion
33rd Infantry Division
4th USMC Tank Battalion
3rd USMC Tank Battalion
3rd NZ Armoured Sqn
35th Port Maint Engineer Battalion
198th Field Artillery Battalion
2nd Pioneer Battalion
225th Field Artillery Battalion
249th Field Artillery Battalion
XI US Corps
33rd Medium Regiment

Defending units:
12th Division
15th Base Force
13th Air Flotilla
19th Army
25th Special Base Force

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Recon says 24,560 Imperial troops remaining on the island, a dose of always wonderful FOW. Our troops need more time before a general attack. No point in smashing the divisions as that will lose us more time in the long run.

Here are today's air losses.

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RE: 1943 December 20 - 3/15/2014 12:37:24 AM

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An Imperial armoured unit is pursuing the defenders toward Poland.

Why not let those guys just wander the Taklimakan and starve in peace!

I suppose they could be like that group that escaped and walked from Siberia to India!

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RE: 1943 December 13 - 3/15/2014 1:35:23 AM

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Hello my Argletonian colleague,

Forgive me for not poking in here more often-I should have kept up with this better. I am interested in reading up on your assault and capture of Truk-can you please point me to the game date where that occured? I'd like to start there...

Cheers!

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RE: 1943 December 13 - 3/15/2014 2:19:09 AM

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Hello my Argletonian colleague,

Forgive me for not poking in here more often-I should have kept up with this better. I am interested in reading up on your assault and capture of Truk-can you please point me to the game date where that occured? I'd like to start there...

Cheers!

Had to double check, just in case I remembered the date wrong. August 1st, 1943. I found that I had forgotten to mark it as an Allied amphib op that turn, so I just edited the entry!

Capture date: September 28th, 1943. The lessons learned from Truk vis a vis dealing with the stacking limits played a significant role in the conduct of the Guam ground operations.

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