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Indonesean Radar and SA-2 Sites - 4/24/2014 12:39:05 PM

.Sirius

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Hi Guys,
I'm after positions and detsils of the following Indonesean Radar and SA-2 Sites for the period of 1960-1966 for some up and coming scenarios, I've googled everyway and cant find a sasauge heh only they had SA-2's during the period probarly Tall King and Token radars too but not sure on positions thanks :)

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RE: Indonesean Radar and SA-2 Sites - 4/25/2014 1:00:11 AM

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I don't know about historical positions, but possibly the current AD sites match the historical ones?

If you speak or read indonesian (or use google chrome) the following link may help you:

http://www.kohanudnas.mil.id/

Don't know if they detail historical information either sorry.

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RE: Indonesean Radar and SA-2 Sites - 4/25/2014 7:58:44 AM

Anathema

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This link includes the radar locations and network from 2008 if that is any help, although I haven't been able to locate all of them, mostly because there are lots of areas of Indonesia that lack detailed satellite imagery. I also suggest looking at the Indonesian language pages of wikipedia using Google Chrome to translate, it isn't great but is more detailed than the english language versions and has entries for most units in their OOB, plus seem to mostly includes historical information from the 1960s before and after the end of communism.

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RE: Indonesean Radar and SA-2 Sites - 4/25/2014 8:04:16 AM

.Sirius

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Hi guys thanks for the links and help

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RE: Indonesean Radar and SA-2 Sites - 4/25/2014 9:03:01 AM

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Hi. I can help with translation if you point me at the right page.

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RE: Indonesean Radar and SA-2 Sites - 4/26/2014 3:45:58 AM

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I poked around a bit hoping the Aussies had a page somewhere from their intervention in 1960s, but had no luck at all.

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RE: Indonesean Radar and SA-2 Sites - 4/26/2014 10:28:57 AM

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There are some resources here on the Konfrontasi conflict, though I couldn't find anything as specific as SAM site details. Maybe some of the contributors could be contacted for further information - just a long shot.

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RE: Indonesean Radar and SA-2 Sites - 4/26/2014 10:51:52 AM

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Found this, states three "general" locations around capital

quote:

...Dengan Skep Men/Pangau Nomor 53 Tahun 1963 tanggal 12 September 1963, dalam rangka mempertahankan wilayah kedaulatan udara nasional, dilakukan pembagian unsur-unsur rudal Hanud dalam pelaksanaan operasi, berada di bawah naungan Wing Pertahanan Udara (WPU) 100, membawahi 3 skadron peluncur dan 1 skadron teknik peluru kendali Yaitu :

1. Skadron 101 Peluncur peluru kendali darat ke udara SA-75 (di Cilodong)
2. Skadron 102 Peluncur peluru kendali darat ke udara SA-75 (di Tangerang)
3. Skadron 103 Peluncur peluru kendali darat ke udara SA-75 (di Cilincing)
4. Skadron Teknik 104 Penyiap Peluru Kendali (di Pondok Gede)....

from http://indomiliter.com/2011/06/08/sa-2-rudal-darat-ke-udara-legendaris-auri/
using Google translate equals

quote:

...With Skep Men / Force Commander, No. 53 of 1963 dated 12 September 1963, in order to maintain the air sovereignty of the national territory, the distribution of elements in the implementation Hanud missile operations, under the auspices of the Air Defense Wing (WPU) 100, 3 squadron in charge launchers and 1 squadron of missile technology are:

1. Squadron missile launcher 101 surface-to-air SA-75 (in Cilodong)
2. Squadron missile launcher 102 surface-to-air SA-75 (in Tangerang)
3. Squadron missile launcher 103 surface-to-air SA-75 (in Cilincing)
4. Squadron 104 Penyiap Missile Engineering (in Pondok Gede)....

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RE: Indonesean Radar and SA-2 Sites - 4/29/2014 6:02:09 AM

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I am researching a 2019 Indonesian scenario and came across this research paper on the Indonesian radar network. You will need to translate it but includes the following:

quote:

Since 1962 (officially Kohanudnas formed), the entire radar that unfolded in Indonesia operates under the command of Kohanudnas. Type of radar ever and is still held in Indonesia are:

a. Radar Type Nysa - A and Nysa - B (Poland 1960). Placement location is in Jakarta (JKT), Cikarang (CKR), Cibalimbing (CBL), Morotai (MRT), Ambon (ABN), Supadio (SPA), Makassar (MKS), Bula / CERAM (BLL), Biak (BIK) , Medan (MDN), Ploso (PLO), Ranai (RNI).

b. Radar Type P - 30 (Russia 1961). Placement location is in Palembang (PLB), Pekanbaru (PBU), Tanjung Pandan (TDN), Banjarmasin (BJM), Kalijati (KJT), and Polek 02 (SLO).

c. Plessey Radar DECCA type HF 200 (UK 1962). Placement location partly replace the existing station at Ploso (PLO) and the new placement in Tanjung Kait (TKT).

d. Plessey Radar Type DECCA FR (UK 1962). Placement location partly replace the existing starion in Ploso (PLO) and the new placement in Cisalak (CSL). The function of this radar to help pilots find the runway in the heading (fighter recovery).

e. Plessey Radar DECCA type HYDRA (UK 1962). Location placing radar in perfect condition Tanjungkait (TKT).

f. Plessey Radar DECCA Type LC (UK 1962). Placement location in Pemalang (PML) and a new placement in Ngiyep (NLI).

g. Radar Type THOMSON THD - 047 (CSF France in 1978). Placement location in Tanjung Pinang (TPI).

h. Radar Type THOMSON TRS - 2215 (1981 French CSF). Placement location in Ranai (RNI), Kupang (KPN), Dumai (DMI) Lhokseumawe (LSE).

i. Radar Type 2215 D THOMSON TRS (CSF France in 1986). Placement location in Cibalimbing (CBL), Sabang (SBG), and Sibolga (SBG).

j. Radar Type THOMSON TRS - 2230 (1987 French CSF). Placement location in Tanjungkait (TKT).

k. Plessey Radar Type AR - 325 Commander (English 1991). Placement location in Tarakan (TRK), Balikpapan (BPP) and Kwandang (KWD). Although still using a system of tubes (TWT), which used a more practical system, so it does not require a multilevel power magnification as that used Thomson TRS 2230 (CFA I and CFA II).

l. Radar Type MASTER - T (Thales of France in 2005). Placement location in Biak (BIK) and Tanjung Pinang (TPI). This type of radar is already using full solid state , the system used a more simple without compromising the ability of radar detection itself. By using the module system, the maintenance process can be implemented more easily.

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RE: Indonesean Radar and SA-2 Sites - 4/29/2014 8:03:45 AM

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Thanks Anathema for the infomation :)

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ORIGINAL: Anathema

I am researching a 2019 Indonesian scenario and came across this research paper on the Indonesian radar network. You will need to translate it but includes the following:

quote:

Since 1962 (officially Kohanudnas formed), the entire radar that unfolded in Indonesia operates under the command of Kohanudnas. Type of radar ever and is still held in Indonesia are:

a. Radar Type Nysa - A and Nysa - B (Poland 1960). Placement location is in Jakarta (JKT), Cikarang (CKR), Cibalimbing (CBL), Morotai (MRT), Ambon (ABN), Supadio (SPA), Makassar (MKS), Bula / CERAM (BLL), Biak (BIK) , Medan (MDN), Ploso (PLO), Ranai (RNI).

b. Radar Type P - 30 (Russia 1961). Placement location is in Palembang (PLB), Pekanbaru (PBU), Tanjung Pandan (TDN), Banjarmasin (BJM), Kalijati (KJT), and Polek 02 (SLO).

c. Plessey Radar DECCA type HF 200 (UK 1962). Placement location partly replace the existing station at Ploso (PLO) and the new placement in Tanjung Kait (TKT).

d. Plessey Radar Type DECCA FR (UK 1962). Placement location partly replace the existing starion in Ploso (PLO) and the new placement in Cisalak (CSL). The function of this radar to help pilots find the runway in the heading (fighter recovery).

e. Plessey Radar DECCA type HYDRA (UK 1962). Location placing radar in perfect condition Tanjungkait (TKT).

f. Plessey Radar DECCA Type LC (UK 1962). Placement location in Pemalang (PML) and a new placement in Ngiyep (NLI).

g. Radar Type THOMSON THD - 047 (CSF France in 1978). Placement location in Tanjung Pinang (TPI).

h. Radar Type THOMSON TRS - 2215 (1981 French CSF). Placement location in Ranai (RNI), Kupang (KPN), Dumai (DMI) Lhokseumawe (LSE).

i. Radar Type 2215 D THOMSON TRS (CSF France in 1986). Placement location in Cibalimbing (CBL), Sabang (SBG), and Sibolga (SBG).

j. Radar Type THOMSON TRS - 2230 (1987 French CSF). Placement location in Tanjungkait (TKT).

k. Plessey Radar Type AR - 325 Commander (English 1991). Placement location in Tarakan (TRK), Balikpapan (BPP) and Kwandang (KWD). Although still using a system of tubes (TWT), which used a more practical system, so it does not require a multilevel power magnification as that used Thomson TRS 2230 (CFA I and CFA II).

l. Radar Type MASTER - T (Thales of France in 2005). Placement location in Biak (BIK) and Tanjung Pinang (TPI). This type of radar is already using full solid state , the system used a more simple without compromising the ability of radar detection itself. By using the module system, the maintenance process can be implemented more easily.

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