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RE: Castles in the Sand - Spidery(J) vs MrKane(A) no Mr... - 4/13/2014 5:24:04 PM   
Spidery

 

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September 15th 1942

Air Losses: 11 Japanese, 8 Allied, 3 Pilots
Japanese occupy:
Allies occupy:
Japanese land at:
Allies land at:

Pacific

An Allied cruiser force pursues to very close to Rabaul and engages an ASW task force. DD Hamakaze is lost.
quote:


Day Time Surface Combat, near Feni Islands at 107,127, Range 26,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
DD Yukikaze, Shell hits 1
DD Hamakaze, Shell hits 8, heavy fires, heavy damage

Allied Ships
CA Astoria, Shell hits 1
CA Vincennes, Shell hits 1
DD Benham
DD Ellet, Shell hits 2
DD Stack, Shell hits 2, on fire
DD Sterett, Shell hits 2


This enemy force then seems to have vanished but a different one is subject to repeated air attack:
quote:


Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Woodlark Island at 106,130

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 44 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 16 minutes

Japanese aircraft
D3A1 Val x 12

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
CA New Orleans, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
CA Minneapolis, Bomb hits 2, on fire

Aircraft Attacking:
5 x D3A1 Val releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
7 x D3A1 Val releasing from 1000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb



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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Woodlark Island at 106,130

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 41 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 15 minutes

Japanese aircraft
D3A1 Val x 12

Japanese aircraft losses
D3A1 Val: 2 damaged

Allied Ships
CA New Orleans, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage
CA Minneapolis, Bomb hits 4, heavy fires, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x D3A1 Val releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
8 x D3A1 Val releasing from 1000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb

Heavy smoke from fires obscuring CA Minneapolis


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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Woodlark Island at 106,130

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 49 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 20 minutes

Japanese aircraft
B5N2 Kate x 7
D3A1 Val x 8

Japanese aircraft losses
B5N2 Kate: 1 damaged

Allied Ships
CA Minneapolis, heavy fires, heavy damage
DD Lang, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage
CA New Orleans, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
7 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 45cm Type 91 Torp
4 x D3A1 Val releasing from 1000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
4 x D3A1 Val releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb

Heavy smoke from fires obscuring CA New Orleans


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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Woodlark Island at 106,130

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 30 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 10
D3A1 Val x 30

Japanese aircraft losses
D3A1 Val: 1 damaged

Allied Ships
DD Wilson
CA New Orleans, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage
DD Lang, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage
CA Minneapolis, Bomb hits 6, heavy fires, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
15 x D3A1 Val releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
3 x D3A1 Val releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
12 x D3A1 Val releasing from 1000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb

Heavy smoke from fires obscuring DD Lang
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring CA Minneapolis


4 Seagull show up as ground losses on the day so I assume one of the CA has been sunk. This matches the VP tally.

The SS Gar hits a mine at Buka. Various Allied and Japanese SS are subject to air attacks with claimed hits.

CVL Zuiho is one hex from Rabaul and now has 62/71/22/11 damage.
CV Zuikaku also has one hex to go and is at 52/48/40 damage

Burma

Allied cruiser forces bombard Akyab. Light damage to troops but some damage to base facilities and supplies lost.

China

Another good attack near Chungking
quote:


Japanese ground losses:
1489 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 112 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 24 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 11 disabled
Guns lost 22 (5 destroyed, 17 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
11799 casualties reported
Squads: 497 destroyed, 52 disabled
Non Combat: 540 destroyed, 24 disabled
Engineers: 12 destroyed, 5 disabled
Guns lost 18 (13 destroyed, 5 disabled)
Units retreated 4

Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
116th Division
13th Division
104th Division
3rd Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment
21st Medium Field Artillery Battalion
28th Mountain Gun Regiment
7th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
11th Field Artillery Regiment
3rd Medium Field Artillery Regiment
10th Mortar Battalion

Defending units:
4th Chinese Corps
72nd Chinese Corps
26th Chinese Corps
74th Chinese Corps


Air strikes continue to do damage.

Engineering

Quiet

R&D

Quiet

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RE: Castles in the Sand - Spidery(J) vs MrKane(A) no Mr... - 4/14/2014 8:00:55 AM   
Spidery

 

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September 16th 1942

Air Losses: 5 Japanese, 10 Allied, 2 Pilots
Japanese occupy:
Allies occupy:
Japanese land at:
Allies land at:

Pacific

Tried something novel. MrKane had lots of interesting task forces just south of Tulagi so I-121 slipped in and dropped 40 mines in the hex. Result!

quote:


DD Perkins, Mine hits 1, on fire, heavy damage


However, one better
quote:


TF 183 encounters mine field at 115,138

Allied Ships
DD Case
DD Drayton
DD Mahan
CV Wasp, Mine hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

6 mines cleared


Wasp was previously damaged, some carrier planes are shown as lost on the ground, jump of 300 unexplained VP for the day all confirm that the CV Wasp has been sunk.

All mines are cleared in the one day but who cares

Meanwhile, SS I-172 succumbs having been badly damaged by air attack.

Zuiho has its fires out, 65/71/26 damage.

Burma

Recce shows Allied BB at Calcutta.

China

More good progress and heavy damage inflicted.

Engineering

Quiet

R&D

D4Y4 to 11/44
B6N2 to 7/43

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RE: Castles in the Sand - Spidery(J) vs MrKane(A) no Mr... - 4/14/2014 12:07:11 PM   
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Good day. My experience with mine hits is that they always list ships as sunk, incorrectly...but perhaps you have enough confirming evidence. Did you hear sinking sounds?

Fires out on Zuiho?

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RE: Castles in the Sand - Spidery(J) vs MrKane(A) no Mr... - 4/14/2014 12:16:12 PM   
Spidery

 

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Lowpe

Good day. My experience with mine hits is that they always list ships as sunk, incorrectly...but perhaps you have enough confirming evidence. Did you hear sinking sounds?

Fires out on Zuiho?


At least two sinking sounds during the turn but those could be related to the fact that he has various CA and DD damaged.

The most decisive evidence is that the day loss shows 4 F4F-4 and 3 TBF-1 as lost on the ground. As I haven't done anything else to cause that I can only see it as being the residue of planes left on a carrier after it was rendered unable to operate and then sunk.

Yes, fires out on Zuiho and only a few more system and engine damage sustained.

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RE: Castles in the Sand - Spidery(J) vs MrKane(A) no Mr... - 4/14/2014 12:26:56 PM   
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If you manage to save your two threatened carriers, which I think you will now that the fires are out and submarines are the biggest peril, I think you have pulled off a win here.

The Americans lost a lot of carrier planes...gotta slow him down.

Gee, I am glad you spent four hours on your turn...not much you can do eh?

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RE: Castles in the Sand - Spidery(J) vs MrKane(A) no Mr... - 4/14/2014 1:02:58 PM   
Spidery

 

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September 17th 1942

Air Losses: 4 Japanese, 2 Allied, 1 Pilots
Japanese occupy:
Allies occupy:
Japanese land at:
Allies land at:

Pacific

Quiet. Allied CVs are spotted South of Tulagi. Lots of attacks on both sides subs. Nothing conclusive.

Burma

Quiet

China

Some damaging attacks but an attack on the road to Tsuying is not good:
quote:


Ground combat at 68,47 (near Kunming)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 29545 troops, 370 guns, 166 vehicles, Assault Value = 879

Defending force 16601 troops, 127 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 358

Japanese adjusted assault: 261

Allied adjusted defense: 580

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 2

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
1515 casualties reported
Squads: 14 destroyed, 140 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 13 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 9 disabled
Guns lost 22 (2 destroyed, 20 disabled)
Vehicles lost 3 (1 destroyed, 2 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
138 casualties reported
Squads: 3 destroyed, 11 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled

Assaulting units:
27th Division
24th Division
20th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
12th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
5th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
12th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
15th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion

Defending units:
1st Chinese Corps
66th Chinese Corps


I'm not going to budge this without extensive air attack first and it is close enough to Allied bases that there is a risk of running into CAP so I can't do that without having more fighters here. At the moment I don't really have fighters to spare with the need for them at Rabaul, Darwin and Magwe in particular.

May see if I can work around it to take Tsuyung directly but it is at least a months walk through the mountains or nearly two months to carry tanks and artillery over the mountains.

Engineering

Yenan expands airfield to 3 (I have had 1 engineer squad here and forgot abput it!)

R&D

Quiet

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RE: Castles in the Sand - Spidery(J) vs MrKane(A) no Mr... - 4/14/2014 1:15:21 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Lowpe

If you manage to save your two threatened carriers, which I think you will now that the fires are out and submarines are the biggest peril, I think you have pulled off a win here.

The Americans lost a lot of carrier planes...gotta slow him down.

Gee, I am glad you spent four hours on your turn...not much you can do eh?



I'ld count it as a draw or marginal win to me. Although the loss of a CV and a CS is bad the worse loss is of trained pilots. Particularly, as I haven't had much success getting a training program together for the IJN.

I think a lot of his carriers have upgrades in October so it wouldn't surprise me if he moved them all back to do that and his next op was launched in November.

The biggest concern I have now is that he will use a 4E strike at Rabaul port. Moonlight is currently 57% so he could try a night strike in a few days time. Zuikaku fixed 5 float last turn so will probably be able to move it before the full moon (52/39/40). Zuiho fixed 2 float last turn so it may have to stay for the moon (65/69/26).

These last few turns have all been taking longer than I can afford, with both China and the South Pacific needing adjustments each day.

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RE: Castles in the Sand - Spidery(J) vs MrKane(A) no Mr... - 4/15/2014 8:12:31 AM   
Spidery

 

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September 18th 1942

Air Losses: 5 Japanese, 2 Allied, 1 Pilots(but one MIA is recovered)
Japanese occupy:
Allies occupy:
Japanese land at:
Allies land at:

Pacific

Quiet. A couple of sub attacks against task forces containing CA near Ndeni for no result.

Allied subs seem mostly have moved towards Truk, lots of ASW assets there but no success at attacking them (a few claimed hits from the air).

Burma

Quiet

China

Quiet. A few victories against small Chinese LCU; the 2nd Group Army has been destroyed and will be reformed.

Engineering

Ramree Island to 2, Pingsiang to 2, Batavia to 6. Port Blair forts to 4.

Allies have built a port at Lunga and expanded Townsville port to 6.

R&D

Quiet.

Economy

Supply has been increasing rapidly and I now have 1.2 million in Japan.

Still have over a million tons of liquids waiting to be shipped to Japan.

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RE: Castles in the Sand - Spidery(J) vs MrKane(A) no Mr... - 4/15/2014 9:02:21 AM   
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quote:

Spidery
I'ld count it as a draw or marginal win to me. Although the loss of a CV and a CS is bad the worse loss is of trained pilots. Particularly, as I haven't had much success getting a training program together for the IJN.

I think a lot of his carriers have upgrades in October so it wouldn't surprise me if he moved them all back to do that and his next op was launched in November.

The biggest concern I have now is that he will use a 4E strike at Rabaul port. Moonlight is currently 57% so he could try a night strike in a few days time. Zuikaku fixed 5 float last turn so will probably be able to move it before the full moon (52/39/40). Zuiho fixed 2 float last turn so it may have to stay for the moon (65/69/26).


Wonderful idea with the mines south of Tulagi! Planes lost on the ground most certainly mean sunk CV.

The problem with massed 4E night strikes at Rabaul is that no matter how many nightfighters you have on duty, some of them will strike home. And a damaged CV is a big target...

However, I think the biggest danger to moving your CVs will be his subs. Any chance you can clear out a path to Truk with low level search planes (night and day) and lots of ASW TFs?

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RE: Castles in the Sand - Spidery(J) vs MrKane(A) no Mr... - 4/15/2014 10:35:32 AM   
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quote:

The problem with massed 4E night strikes at Rabaul is that no matter how many nightfighters you have on duty, some of them will strike home. And a damaged CV is a big target...


Until he gets Lunga or Tulagi up to level 2 airfield he can't launch a mass strike as he is limited to flying B-17D at extended range or liberators. The later models don't have the reach. As such between CAP, flak, balloons and the aircraft that stray at night during a long range attack I think it is iffy how effective a night strike will be. However, he will have Lunga or Tulagi expanded by the time of the full moon.

Between Rabaul and Truk I would estimate he has about 40 subs operating. I have about 20 DD or SC trying to get some of those and air at Kavieng and Truk. I hope that if I can keep the pressure up he will start taking losses and reduce the number of subs.

I have no feeling for the likelihood that coastwatchers will report the location of my CV.

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RE: Castles in the Sand - Spidery(J) vs MrKane(A) no Mr... - 4/15/2014 10:38:12 AM   
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quote:

Wonderful idea with the mines south of Tulagi!


During the action off Noumea I had a chance to use mines but didn't have any to hand. Now my policy is that every time I-121, 122, 123, or 124 start a patrol I set them into a mine-laying task force and load up, just in case I get an opportunity to use them.

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RE: Castles in the Sand - Spidery(J) vs MrKane(A) no Mr... - 4/15/2014 5:37:42 PM   
Spidery

 

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September 19th 1942

Air Losses: 2 Japanese, 3 Allied, 0 Pilots
Japanese occupy:
Allies occupy:
Japanese land at:
Allies land at:

Pacific

A couple of ineffective ASW attacks, otherwise quiet.

Burma

Quiet

China

A good result outside Chungking
quote:


Japanese ground losses:
1268 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 102 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 19 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 13 disabled
Guns lost 13 (3 destroyed, 10 disabled)
Vehicles lost 3 (1 destroyed, 2 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
8648 casualties reported
Squads: 317 destroyed, 26 disabled
Non Combat: 499 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 6 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 14 (8 destroyed, 6 disabled)
Units retreated 6

Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
116th Division
13th Division
104th Division
21st Medium Field Artillery Battalion
3rd Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment
11th Army
28th Mountain Gun Regiment
7th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
11th Field Artillery Regiment
3rd Medium Field Artillery Regiment
10th Mortar Battalion

Defending units:
72nd Chinese Corps
4th Chinese Corps
26th Chinese Corps
74th Chinese Corps
15th Group Army
30th Group Army


That is another Chinese Corps trashed, I have lost count of the number.

Also drove back some of the forces near Kunming.

He has a last line of defense along the river between Chungking and Kienko. Rather than forcing the river line I will use the opportunity of his forces being hit in the open to weaken his troops while gathering my divisions together for a push.

Engineering

Kweiyang to 6, needed the extra basing given the number of 2E planes in use.

R&D

Mitsubishi Ha-43 now 11/44
Ki-44-IIc now 2/43






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RE: Castles in the Sand - Spidery(J) vs MrKane(A) no Mr... - 4/16/2014 7:32:10 AM   
Spidery

 

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September 20th 1942

Air Losses: 6 Japanese, 4 Allied, 1 Pilots
Japanese occupy:
Allies occupy:
Japanese land at:
Allies land at:

Pacific

When I saw the Allied CV in the Solomons I sent raider forces into the Southern Indian Ocean and East Pacific.

These were withdrawing as the Allied CVs could be moving anywhere. In the East Pacific I find a convoy of xAK carrying fuel to Pearl Harbour. Unfortunately, they escape after I get a few licks in.
quote:


Japanese Ships
CA Chikuma
CA Myoko
CA Haguro
CA Ashigara
CA Furutaka, Shell hits 1
CA Kako, Shell hits 2
DD Akigumo
DD Isokaze
DD Usugumo
DD Uranami
DD Yayoi

Allied Ships
AM Bobolink, Shell hits 1
AM Penguin, Shell hits 2, and is sunk
AM Turkey, Shell hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage
AM Rail, Shell hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage
AM Tern
AM Grebe, Shell hits 3
AM Vireo, Shell hits 3, on fire
AK Alchiba, Shell hits 6, Torpedo hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage
AK Procyon, Shell hits 12, and is sunk
AK Castor, Shell hits 10, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk
xAK British Columbia, Shell hits 4, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
xAK Montgomery City
xAK Ewa
xAK Mahimahi
xAK Makena
xAK Mana
xAK Manulani
xAK Admiral Halstead
xAK Crown City, Shell hits 1, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
xAK Unicoi, Shell hits 3, heavy fires
xAK Capillo, Shell hits 1, heavy fires
xAK Coast Trader
xAK Idaho, Shell hits 3, heavy fires
xAK Meigs
xAK Starr King, Shell hits 6, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk


All the damaged freighters will probably sink since they had fuel cargo that ignited. Fuel status for the task force is critical so no chance to stay around for another day. However, there are half-a-dozen subs heading in.

Otherwise quiet, not very many Allied subs spotted now.

Burma

Quiet

China

I forgot to cancel orders to cross the river South of Kienko. However, it worked out fine as the enemy turned out to be phantom troops:
quote:


Ground combat at 78,42 (near Kienko)

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 28562 troops, 246 guns, 177 vehicles, Assault Value = 905

Defending force 46163 troops, 95 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 563

Japanese adjusted assault: 545

Allied adjusted defense: 100

Japanese assault odds: 5 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: op mode(-), experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker: shock(+)

Japanese ground losses:
615 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 73 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 8 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 14 disabled
Vehicles lost 14 (1 destroyed, 13 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
19341 casualties reported
Squads: 324 destroyed, 293 disabled
Non Combat: 327 destroyed, 218 disabled
Engineers: 20 destroyed, 17 disabled
Guns lost 19 (12 destroyed, 7 disabled)
Units retreated 15

Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
32nd Division
8th Tank Regiment
1st Division
26th Fld AA Machinecannon Company
4th Army
55th Field AA Battalion
11th Ind.Hvy.Art Battalion

Defending units:
19th Chinese Corps
2nd Chinese Corps
34th Separate Brigade
67th Chinese Corps
48th Chinese Corps
4th Construction Regiment
22nd Group Army
15th Chinese Corps
31st Group Army
Red Chinese Army
39th Group Army
1st Artillery Regiment
8th Chinese Base Force
36th Group Army
6th Chinese Base Force
15th Chinese Base Force


Annoyingly, one Chinese unit failed to retreat so I don't control the hex. Chinese retreated North to Kienko where they can starve. My troops will need a few days to recover from disruption and he could reinforce with good troops in that time. Nice to see an artillery regiment that has not made it to Chungking.

Engineering

Allies expand Katherine to level 7. Ndeni port to 2.

Reinforcements

An 8150 capacity tanker arrives.

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RE: Castles in the Sand - Spidery(J) vs MrKane(A) no Mr... - 4/16/2014 1:08:03 PM   
Spidery

 

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September 21st 1942

Air Losses: 3 Japanese, 4 Allied, 1 Pilots
Japanese occupy:
Allies occupy:
Japanese land at:
Allies land at:

Pacific

Just inconclusive sub action.

Burma

Quiet

China

He pulled out from the bridgehead hex so I now have a bridgehead across the river and have opened a long supply route to send fuel and supplies to Chengtu.

Attack at Neikiang goes well and drives the Chinese out.
quote:


Attacking force 31007 troops, 398 guns, 402 vehicles, Assault Value = 977

Defending force 41257 troops, 156 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 915

Japanese adjusted assault: 653

Allied adjusted defense: 316

Japanese assault odds: 2 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: preparation(-), experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
544 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 66 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 19 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled

Allied ground losses:
13590 casualties reported
Squads: 380 destroyed, 120 disabled
Non Combat: 574 destroyed, 34 disabled
Engineers: 22 destroyed, 23 disabled
Guns lost 25 (8 destroyed, 17 disabled)
Units retreated 8

Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
36th Division
20th Recon Regiment
5th Armored Car Co
15th Tank Regiment
8th Armored Car Co
40th Division
26th Recon Regiment
4th Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment
13th Mortar Battalion
11th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
12th Ind.Hvy.Art Battalion
5th Ind.Hvy.Art Battalion
6th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
13th Ind.Hvy.Art Battalion
3rd Army
24th Fld AA Machinecannon Company
10th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
Botanko Hvy Gun Regiment
14th JNAF AF Unit /1

Defending units:
44th Chinese Corps
51st Chinese Corps
28th Chinese Corps
52nd Chinese Corps
21st Chinese Corps
62nd Chinese Corps
43rd Chinese Corps
9th Group Army


Australia

Subs attack a CA task force heading into Perth.

Engineering

Allies expand Lunga airfield to 2.

R&D

Quiet

Reinforcements

An SC arrives.

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RE: Castles in the Sand - Spidery(J) vs MrKane(A) no Mr... - 4/25/2014 12:07:56 PM   
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Game was delayed a bit as MrKane demonstrated coffee and computers do not mix.

September 22nd 1942

Air Losses: 0 Japanese, 3 Allied, 0 Pilots
Japanese occupy:
Allies occupy: Tassafaronga(auto)
Japanese land at:
Allies land at:

Pacific

Inconclusive action.

Tried moving the Zuiho but was a bad move as pumps immediately failed and she sank. Not unexpected, maybe I should have left her at Rabaul and at least forced him to send bombers.

Burma

Quiet

China

Just bombing

Australia

Quiet

Engineering

Allies expand Chittagong port to level 5.

R&D

A6M5b to 12/43.

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RE: Castles in the Sand - Spidery(J) vs MrKane(A) no Mr... - 4/25/2014 1:23:38 PM   
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quote:

Tried moving the Zuiho but was a bad move as pumps immediately failed and she sank. Not unexpected, maybe I should have left her at Rabaul and at least forced him to send bombers.


Yeah, Japanese ships are fragile, fragile things. I've made a point of never moving anything until the system damage is completely gone. It's led to some ships sitting in port with battles ranging in nearby hexes.

When you've got a ship as badly damaged as the Zuiho (or anything with 50+ flt damage) try to pair it up with an AR for the trip home. Try to do the trip in as many short hops as possible. That way, if the Japanese damage control team tries to drain the water by opening a hole below the waterline, the damaged ship can disband into a base or dot hex, and the repair ship can help patch up the damage and carry on their way.

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RE: Castles in the Sand - Spidery(J) vs MrKane(A) no Mr... - 4/25/2014 3:00:47 PM   
Spidery

 

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September 23rd 1942

Air Losses: 23 Japanese, 11 Allied, 7 Pilots
Japanese occupy:
Allies occupy: Auki(auto)
Japanese land at:
Allies land at:

Pacific

I-168 sinks the damaged CL De Ruyter South of Tulagi.

Burma

Lightnings sweep Magwe. For various reasons the only defense was A6M2 and Ki-43-Ic. However, they do okay, losing 11 Zeroes and 10 Oscars but downing 8 P-38F.

China

Bombing and some minor attacks. More move arrows suggest an Allied evacuation towards India of many units (probably the most damaged ones).

On the road to Tsuyung, attack with tank regiments and get a good result. Will be able to attack again in 2 days.

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Ground combat at 68,47 (near Kunming)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 18116 troops, 299 guns, 497 vehicles, Assault Value = 614

Defending force 16448 troops, 126 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 339

Japanese adjusted assault: 324

Allied adjusted defense: 607

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 2

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
163 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Vehicles lost 13 (1 destroyed, 12 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
461 casualties reported
Squads: 3 destroyed, 70 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled

Assaulting units:
17th Tank Regiment
3rd Tank Regiment
24th Division
9th Tank Regiment
23rd Tank Regiment
11th Tank Regiment
20th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
5th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
12th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
15th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
12th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
3rd Mortar Battalion

Defending units:
1st Chinese Corps
66th Chinese Corps


At Urumchi, enough supply arrives to fix 1 oil well. However, it will be another 10 days before another 1000 supply arrives and can fix the next point so it will be 6 months to fix all the damaged wells.

Australia

Quiet

Engineering

Allies expand Lunga airfield to 3 and Ndeni airfield to 3.

R&D

The first N1K1-J factory has been fully repaired; in advance of the engine even being ready, let alone at 500 stockpiled. Will research this: it will give an aircraft that can get above the P-38 (until the P-38J).

Ki-43-IV to 9/44.

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Yeah, Japanese ships are fragile, fragile things. I've made a point of never moving anything until the system damage is completely gone. It's led to some ships sitting in port with battles ranging in nearby hexes.


Do you mean minor flood damage possibly from counter flooding?




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Yeah, Japanese ships are fragile, fragile things. I've made a point of never moving anything until the system damage is completely gone. It's led to some ships sitting in port with battles ranging in nearby hexes.


Do you mean minor flood damage possibly from counter flooding?



Minor flooding and accumulated system damage, yes. The dice gods area already stacked against Japanese damage control, so getting rid of those five or six points of system damage help.

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Minor flooding and accumulated system damage, yes. The dice gods area already stacked against Japanese damage control, so getting rid of those five or six points of system damage help.


+1.

I encouraged Spidery to stay in port until the minor flooding was pumped out in a pm, but he felt the risk from a port strike was too great.

It is a shame when you can both be right and lose the ship no matter what you do.

I have seen over 20 points of counter flooding from torpedo hits...multiple torpedo hits.





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Aircraft Losses to date






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I would call those losses very light.

How many total planes do you have in service?

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September 24th 1942

Air Losses: 1 Japanese, 3 Allied, 0 Pilots
Japanese occupy:
Allies occupy: Thousand Ships Bay(auto)
Japanese land at:
Allies land at:

Pacific

Near Palmyra, I-156 fires 6 torpedoes at BB California: all miss.

BB California and Maryland are spotted. No idea if they are heading to or from Pearl Harbour.

Burma

Quiet

China

Just pushing against an open door. Air strikes at Chungking airfields see no flak.

If he is evacuating out of supply Chinese to India they have some 4 to 8 months of walking across mountains without supply, just how much attrition will they take?

Australia

Quiet

Engineering

Allies expand Lunga airfield to 4 (Oh to have all those engineers, size 2 on the 21st, size 3 on the 23rd, size 4 on the 24th).

R&D

Quiet

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I would call those losses very light.

How many total planes do you have in service?


I don't know. How can I find out?

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I would call those losses very light.


In comparison to what you took over they certainly are.

It is a worry that they are so light but MrKane doesn't give me many opportunities. Since the Japanese can expect to lose all ships and most territory and take a fairly fixed strategic loss the best way to fend off Allied victory is to inflict heavy aircraft losses, as long as they are at less than 2:1. This is best done early.

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How strong a defense is needed at a base to:

a) protect against a surprise Allied parachute attack.
b) protect against a surprise Allied sub-transport assault.

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How strong a defense is needed at a base to:

a) protect against a surprise Allied parachute attack.
b) protect against a surprise Allied sub-transport assault.


If it's in a clear terrain, i'd say at least 50 AVs with some forts (3 minimum). If it's +2 or +3 terrain even less probably, but 50 AVs is a good rule of thumb imh0

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Spidery

How strong a defense is needed at a base to:

a) protect against a surprise Allied parachute attack.
b) protect against a surprise Allied sub-transport assault.


If it's in a clear terrain, i'd say at least 50 AVs with some forts (3 minimum). If it's +2 or +3 terrain even less probably, but 50 AVs is a good rule of thumb imh0


Thank-you, so that is about the size of a Naval Guard Unit plus a small engineering unit to get the forts built.

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Yes. What base do you have in mind?

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September 25th 1942

Air Losses: 3 Japanese, 3 Allied, 2 Pilots
Japanese occupy:
Allies occupy:
Japanese land at:
Allies land at:

Pacific

I-156 fires puts two torpedoes into the side of CL Nashville. With MASSIVE EXPLOSIVE DAMAGE and severe damage messages it looks promising but no sinking sounds and no aircraft losses.

I-31 sinks a small xAK near Suva.

Allied subs seem active around Rabaul again and MrKane has stepped up night search there. He may be planning another move.

Burma

A small Allied CL force bombards Akyab relatively ineffectively.

China

Kienko appears to have been abandoned. This will be a big help in letting me get a couple of divisions and an artillery train into action.

Another good attack on the road to Burma.

Australia

SigInt has detected troops moving on Wyndham and on Derby.

Engineering

Quiet

R&D

Quiet

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