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Most Unofficial Brazil 2014 World Cup Thread - 5/29/2014 6:45:43 PM

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Well, we had on the past on this very same section of the forums World and Euro Cups threads: 2008, 2010 and 2012 minimum. Before that date, I can�t remember.

Warspite wanted to use the European Championships thread instead but in my opinion this event deserves its own thread. After all, all the other 2008, 2010 and 2012 Cups had their own independent threads.

Needless to say, NO politics here as we don�t want it locked. This is about football. I guess some Mourinho or parking-the-bus or [insert here the tactics, players you dislike] baitings are most welcome though

Whatever. I start.

I only see 3 teams bagging the title. Brazil (at home and Brazil is always Brazil), Argentina and Germany. I would even add it�s going to be between Brazil and Germany.

Positive surprises: Portugal, they could even get to the final, who knows; and Belgium: small country but with a very talented generation, let�s see if they manage to put them to good use.

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RE: Most Unofficial Brazil 2014 World Cup Thread - 5/29/2014 6:53:45 PM

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Only one country has won the tournament outside of their own continent. On that basis a South American victory seems most likely. If so then Brazil or Argentina would be the most sensible guesses. A European country? I doubt it personally.

Instead, I am going to have a little wager on an African winner. You never know, a lot of stranger things have happened in football..... like Spurs keeping the same manager for more than 5 minutes. I'm sure that happened once.

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RE: Most Unofficial Brazil 2014 World Cup Thread - 5/29/2014 7:19:54 PM

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Instead, I am going to have a little wager on an African winner. You never know, a lot of stranger things have happened in football.....

That would be indeed veeeeery strange. I can't see that happening though. If you want to win world-class players are a must. And this is a product of coincidence in my opinion. The 3 Big Ones (utter professionals): Brazil, Italy and Germany are more or less always *there* near the final (and bagging titles too) but the others... they only shine when coincidence, luck, manages to gather (at the right moment and place) great players. England in 64, Argentina in 78 and 86, France in 1998, Spain in 2010.

Anyway, the groups:

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RE: Most Unofficial Brazil 2014 World Cup Thread - 5/29/2014 7:23:02 PM

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Instead, I am going to have a little wager on an African winner. You never know, a lot of stranger things have happened in football.....

That would be indeed veeeeery strange. I can't see that happening though. If you want to win world-class players are a must. And this is a product of coincidence in my opinion. The 3 Big Ones (utter professionals): Brazil, Italy and Germany are more or less always *there* near the final (and bagging titles too) but the others... they only shine when coincidence, luck, manages to gather (at the right moment and place) great players. England in 64, Argentina in 78 and 86, France in 1998, Spain in 2010.

Anyway, the groups:

warspite1

England in 64? I don't think so

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RE: Most Unofficial Brazil 2014 World Cup Thread - 5/29/2014 7:24:49 PM

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Instead, I am going to have a little wager on an African winner. You never know, a lot of stranger things have happened in football.....

That would be indeed veeeeery strange. I can't see that happening though. If you want to win world-class players are a must. And this is a product of coincidence in my opinion. The 3 Big Ones (utter professionals): Brazil, Italy and Germany are more or less always *there* near the final (and bagging titles too) but the others... they only shine when coincidence, luck, manages to gather (at the right moment and place) great players. England in 64, Argentina in 78 and 86, France in 1998, Spain in 2010.

Anyway, the groups:

warspite1

I am still truly mystified as to how France got that group

Conspiracy, fix, cheats, Platini

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RE: Most Unofficial Brazil 2014 World Cup Thread - 5/29/2014 11:08:01 PM

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So where are the hot pictures of half naked Brazilian women?

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RE: Most Unofficial Brazil 2014 World Cup Thread - 5/30/2014 1:49:12 AM

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What are the chances USA will do good? No one is picking them and my soccer friends say they are in the group of death.

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RE: Most Unofficial Brazil 2014 World Cup Thread - 5/30/2014 3:35:29 AM

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What are the chances USA will do good? No one is picking them and my soccer friends say they are in the group of death.

warspite1

If the USA get out of that group I will be amazed. That is a TOUGH group

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RE: Most Unofficial Brazil 2014 World Cup Thread - 5/30/2014 7:07:34 AM

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My prediction - England will go through the initial stage just fine, then lose on penalties

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RE: Most Unofficial Brazil 2014 World Cup Thread - 5/30/2014 11:07:14 AM

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Opening Match on the 12th June. Brazil v Croatia....

It's ....

Have to go for Brazil but I am sure Croatia will try to upset the Samba..

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RE: Most Unofficial Brazil 2014 World Cup Thread - 5/30/2014 12:49:15 PM

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I am still truly mystified as to how France got that group Conspiracy, fix, cheats, Platini

I suspect that there are a lot of foul play going on during and before such tournaments. But I do not believe that fixing the draw is one of them. But, then again, I might be naive.

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RE: Most Unofficial Brazil 2014 World Cup Thread - 5/30/2014 1:06:17 PM

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I am still truly mystified as to how France got that group Conspiracy, fix, cheats, Platini

I suspect that there are a lot of foul play going on during and before such tournaments. But I do not believe that fixing the draw is one of them. But, then again, I might be naive.

warspite1

I do not believe the draw was fixed either...except of course by the French

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RE: Most Unofficial Brazil 2014 World Cup Thread - 5/30/2014 1:08:54 PM

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Split loyalties perhaps? or just a confused young lady?

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RE: Most Unofficial Brazil 2014 World Cup Thread - 5/30/2014 1:55:28 PM

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Instead, I am going to have a little wager on an African winner. You never know, a lot of stranger things have happened in football.....

That would be indeed veeeeery strange. I can't see that happening though. If you want to win world-class players are a must. And this is a product of coincidence in my opinion. The 3 Big Ones (utter professionals): Brazil, Italy and Germany are more or less always *there* near the final (and bagging titles too) but the others... they only shine when coincidence, luck, manages to gather (at the right moment and place) great players. England in 64, Argentina in 78 and 86, France in 1998, Spain in 2010.

Anyway, the groups:

warspite1

England in 64? I don't think so

Oops! I meant 66, sorry

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RE: Most Unofficial Brazil 2014 World Cup Thread - 5/30/2014 4:37:05 PM

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What is everyone's picks for group winners?

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RE: Most Unofficial Brazil 2014 World Cup Thread - 5/30/2014 4:58:27 PM

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What is everyone's picks for group winners?

A - Brazil
B - Spain
C - Colombia
D - Italy
E - France
F - Argentina
G - Portugal
H - Russia

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RE: Most Unofficial Brazil 2014 World Cup Thread - 5/30/2014 5:00:23 PM

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Brazil, Spain, Ivory Coast, Italy, France, Argentina, Germany, Belgium

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RE: Most Unofficial Brazil 2014 World Cup Thread - 5/30/2014 5:29:19 PM

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What is everyone's picks for group winners?

warspite1

Group A - Brazil
Group B - Chile
Group C - Colombia
Group D - Uruguay
Group E - France
Group F - Argentina
Group G - Germany
Group H - Belgium

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RE: Most Unofficial Brazil 2014 World Cup Thread - 5/30/2014 5:42:51 PM

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Two of you pick Germany...They never start off too good, just good enough to get through the initial round, THEN the machinery starts going. Just saying

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RE: Most Unofficial Brazil 2014 World Cup Thread - 5/30/2014 5:51:48 PM

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Two of you pick Germany...They never start off too good, just good enough to get through the initial round, THEN the machinery starts going. Just saying

warspite1

That's normally Italy's modus operandi - 1982 being the most extreme example - they were rubbish in the group stage!

Would you believe you have to go back to 1986 for the last time (West) Germany did not win their initial group?!?!?!

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RE: Most Unofficial Brazil 2014 World Cup Thread - 5/30/2014 6:04:58 PM

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Two of you pick Germany...They never start off too good, just good enough to get through the initial round, THEN the machinery starts going. Just saying

warspite1

That's normally Italy's modus operandi - 1982 being the most extreme example - they were rubbish in the group stage!

Would you believe you have to go back to 1986 for the last time (West) Germany did not win their initial group?!?!?!

But they never played well despite winning the group. I still place my money on Portugal ;)
Italy is just plain dull (no offence), 90mins of 10 man defence...

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RE: Most Unofficial Brazil 2014 World Cup Thread - 5/30/2014 6:05:20 PM

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Brazil
Spain
Ivory Coast
England
France
Argentina
Germany
Belgium

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RE: Most Unofficial Brazil 2014 World Cup Thread - 5/30/2014 6:08:45 PM

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Two of you pick Germany...They never start off too good, just good enough to get through the initial round, THEN the machinery starts going. Just saying

warspite1

That's normally Italy's modus operandi - 1982 being the most extreme example - they were rubbish in the group stage!

Would you believe you have to go back to 1986 for the last time (West) Germany did not win their initial group?!?!?!

But they never played well despite winning the group. I still place my money on Portugal ;)
Italy is just plain dull (no offence), 90mins of 10 man defence...

warspite1

But we were asked to pick out choices to finish top of their group - not who plays the best football

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RE: Most Unofficial Brazil 2014 World Cup Thread - 5/30/2014 6:09:40 PM

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Brazil
Spain
Ivory Coast
England
France
Argentina
Germany
Belgium

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ENGLAND??? You mocketh us surely?

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RE: Most Unofficial Brazil 2014 World Cup Thread - 5/30/2014 6:32:17 PM

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Two of you pick Germany...They never start off too good, just good enough to get through the initial round, THEN the machinery starts going. Just saying

warspite1

That's normally Italy's modus operandi - 1982 being the most extreme example - they were rubbish in the group stage!

Would you believe you have to go back to 1986 for the last time (West) Germany did not win their initial group?!?!?!

But they never played well despite winning the group. I still place my money on Portugal ;)
Italy is just plain dull (no offence), 90mins of 10 man defence...

warspite1

But we were asked to pick out choices to finish top of their group - not who plays the best football

True true, Liverpool only ended 2nd after all. Good football does not mean alot anymore

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RE: Most Unofficial Brazil 2014 World Cup Thread - 5/30/2014 8:06:29 PM

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Group A: Brazil
Group B: Netherlands
Group C: Greece
Group D: Italy
Group E: Switzerland
Group F: Argentina
Group G: Portugal
Group H: Belgium

The Swiss are similar to the Belgians. Small country, but some young gifted players. The French... err, they had basically imploded in South Africa

This is not anymore the 1998 generation. They are way toooo decadent. They had their chance and did not miss it though and that's what matters

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RE: Most Unofficial Brazil 2014 World Cup Thread - 5/30/2014 8:29:30 PM

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Group A: Brazil
Group B: Spain
Group C: Colombia
Group D: Italy
Group E: France
Group F: Argentina
Group G: Germany
Group H: Russia

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RE: Most Unofficial Brazil 2014 World Cup Thread - 5/31/2014 9:12:08 PM

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Group A: Brazil (If Brazil can't manage to win this group by themselves then the referees are going to do it for them)
Group B: Spain
Group C: Greece
Group D: England
Group E: Switzerland
Group F: Argentina
Group G: Germany
Group H: Russia

I reserve the right to change my mind until the tournament begins.

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RE: Most Unofficial Brazil 2014 World Cup Thread - 5/31/2014 11:05:10 PM

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Sorry I can not participate as there are no half naked pictures of Brazilian women in any of this.

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RE: Most Unofficial Brazil 2014 World Cup Thread - 6/1/2014 8:31:35 AM

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What is everyone's picks for group winners?

A- Brazil
B- Spain
C- Ivory Coast
D- Italy
E- France (on goal difference ahead of the Swiss)
F- Argentina
G- Germany
H- Belgium

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