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Well, we had on the past on this very same section of the forums World and Euro Cups threads: 2008, 2010 and 2012 minimum. Before that date, I can’t remember.
Warspite wanted to use the European Championships thread instead but in my opinion this event deserves its own thread. After all, all the other 2008, 2010 and 2012 Cups had their own independent threads.
Needless to say, NO politics here as we don’t want it locked. This is about football. I guess some Mourinho or parking-the-bus or [insert here the tactics, players you dislike] baitings are most welcome though
Whatever. I start.
I only see 3 teams bagging the title. Brazil (at home and Brazil is always Brazil), Argentina and Germany. I would even add it’s going to be between Brazil and Germany.
Positive surprises: Portugal, they could even get to the final, who knows; and Belgium: small country but with a very talented generation, let’s see if they manage to put them to good use.
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Only one country has won the tournament outside of their own continent. On that basis a South American victory seems most likely. If so then Brazil or Argentina would be the most sensible guesses. A European country? I doubt it personally.
Instead, I am going to have a little wager on an African winner. You never know, a lot of stranger things have happened in football..... like Spurs keeping the same manager for more than 5 minutes. I'm sure that happened once.
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ORIGINAL: warspite1 Instead, I am going to have a little wager on an African winner. You never know, a lot of stranger things have happened in football.....
That would be indeed veeeeery strange. I can't see that happening though. If you want to win world-class players are a must. And this is a product of coincidence in my opinion. The 3 Big Ones (utter professionals): Brazil, Italy and Germany are more or less always *there* near the final (and bagging titles too) but the others... they only shine when coincidence, luck, manages to gather (at the right moment and place) great players. England in 64, Argentina in 78 and 86, France in 1998, Spain in 2010.
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ORIGINAL: warspite1 Instead, I am going to have a little wager on an African winner. You never know, a lot of stranger things have happened in football.....
That would be indeed veeeeery strange. I can't see that happening though. If you want to win world-class players are a must. And this is a product of coincidence in my opinion. The 3 Big Ones (utter professionals): Brazil, Italy and Germany are more or less always *there* near the final (and bagging titles too) but the others... they only shine when coincidence, luck, manages to gather (at the right moment and place) great players. England in 64, Argentina in 78 and 86, France in 1998, Spain in 2010.
Anyway, the groups:
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England in 64? I don't think so
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ORIGINAL: warspite1 Instead, I am going to have a little wager on an African winner. You never know, a lot of stranger things have happened in football.....
That would be indeed veeeeery strange. I can't see that happening though. If you want to win world-class players are a must. And this is a product of coincidence in my opinion. The 3 Big Ones (utter professionals): Brazil, Italy and Germany are more or less always *there* near the final (and bagging titles too) but the others... they only shine when coincidence, luck, manages to gather (at the right moment and place) great players. England in 64, Argentina in 78 and 86, France in 1998, Spain in 2010.
Anyway, the groups:
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I am still truly mystified as to how France got that group Conspiracy, fix, cheats, Platini
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I am still truly mystified as to how France got that group Conspiracy, fix, cheats, Platini
I suspect that there are a lot of foul play going on during and before such tournaments. But I do not believe that fixing the draw is one of them. But, then again, I might be naive.
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I am still truly mystified as to how France got that group Conspiracy, fix, cheats, Platini
I suspect that there are a lot of foul play going on during and before such tournaments. But I do not believe that fixing the draw is one of them. But, then again, I might be naive.
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I do not believe the draw was fixed either...except of course by the French
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ORIGINAL: warspite1 Instead, I am going to have a little wager on an African winner. You never know, a lot of stranger things have happened in football.....
That would be indeed veeeeery strange. I can't see that happening though. If you want to win world-class players are a must. And this is a product of coincidence in my opinion. The 3 Big Ones (utter professionals): Brazil, Italy and Germany are more or less always *there* near the final (and bagging titles too) but the others... they only shine when coincidence, luck, manages to gather (at the right moment and place) great players. England in 64, Argentina in 78 and 86, France in 1998, Spain in 2010.
Two of you pick Germany...They never start off too good, just good enough to get through the initial round, THEN the machinery starts going. Just saying
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Two of you pick Germany...They never start off too good, just good enough to get through the initial round, THEN the machinery starts going. Just saying
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That's normally Italy's modus operandi - 1982 being the most extreme example - they were rubbish in the group stage!
Would you believe you have to go back to 1986 for the last time (West) Germany did not win their initial group?!?!?!
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Two of you pick Germany...They never start off too good, just good enough to get through the initial round, THEN the machinery starts going. Just saying
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That's normally Italy's modus operandi - 1982 being the most extreme example - they were rubbish in the group stage!
Would you believe you have to go back to 1986 for the last time (West) Germany did not win their initial group?!?!?!
But they never played well despite winning the group. I still place my money on Portugal ;) Italy is just plain dull (no offence), 90mins of 10 man defence...
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Two of you pick Germany...They never start off too good, just good enough to get through the initial round, THEN the machinery starts going. Just saying
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That's normally Italy's modus operandi - 1982 being the most extreme example - they were rubbish in the group stage!
Would you believe you have to go back to 1986 for the last time (West) Germany did not win their initial group?!?!?!
But they never played well despite winning the group. I still place my money on Portugal ;) Italy is just plain dull (no offence), 90mins of 10 man defence...
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But we were asked to pick out choices to finish top of their group - not who plays the best football
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Two of you pick Germany...They never start off too good, just good enough to get through the initial round, THEN the machinery starts going. Just saying
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That's normally Italy's modus operandi - 1982 being the most extreme example - they were rubbish in the group stage!
Would you believe you have to go back to 1986 for the last time (West) Germany did not win their initial group?!?!?!
But they never played well despite winning the group. I still place my money on Portugal ;) Italy is just plain dull (no offence), 90mins of 10 man defence...
warspite1
But we were asked to pick out choices to finish top of their group - not who plays the best football
True true, Liverpool only ended 2nd after all. Good football does not mean alot anymore
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Group A: Brazil Group B: Netherlands Group C: Greece Group D: Italy Group E: Switzerland Group F: Argentina Group G: Portugal Group H: Belgium
The Swiss are similar to the Belgians. Small country, but some young gifted players. The French... err, they had basically imploded in South Africa This is not anymore the 1998 generation. They are way toooo decadent. They had their chance and did not miss it though and that's what matters
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Group A: Brazil (If Brazil can't manage to win this group by themselves then the referees are going to do it for them) Group B: Spain Group C: Greece Group D: England Group E: Switzerland Group F: Argentina Group G: Germany Group H: Russia
I reserve the right to change my mind until the tournament begins.
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